FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

Not much in the remnants of those schedules, but you can see what's in so far:
http://www.d3football.com/teams/Bridgewater/2017
http://www.d3football.com/teams/Emory_and_Henry/2017
http://www.d3football.com/teams/Randolph-Macon/2017

[tigerFanAlso2]

as I stated earlier, some in the odac will be playing a nine game schedule until the odac can get an 8th team. not really sure what the future holds along these lines. HSC playing Platteville next year, I'm certain that will not become an annual event after they manhandle HSC, and even if the game is close (not) economics mandated by this type of trip is a budget buster. hope odac is seriously looking for another football playing member.

[hasanova]

Wow. Only 8 real D3 games.

Yeah, I noticed that also.

I don't think it really matters. The ODAC is pretty much a one bid league. But still, I don't like the implication. I've said again and again that I hate being a 7 team league...

It doesn't matter ... we are a one-bid league at the moment.  If Guilford couldn't break through in 2015, I doubt anyone will for a while.  The absence of Catholic and the increased size of the USASAC is a double whammy, but it's a boon for NNA with all the ODAC schools needing to fill a spot.  GC has played them before, but it's been a while.

[jknezek]

Wow. Only 8 real D3 games.

Yeah, I noticed that also.

I don't think it really matters. The ODAC is pretty much a one bid league. But still, I don't like the implication. I've said again and again that I hate being a 7 team league...

It doesn't matter ... we are a one-bid league at the moment.  If Guilford couldn't break through in 2015, I doubt anyone will for a while.  The absence of Catholic and the increased size of the USASAC is a double whammy, but it's a boon for NNA with all the ODAC schools needing to fill a spot.  GC has played them before, but it's been a while.

I still think Guilford didn't break through in 2015 because they didn't play anyone besides W&L. 1-1 Regionally Ranked is a lot better than 0-1. But you have to play someone non-conf with at least a winning record. 3-7, 4-6, 2-7 for Greensboro, Methodist, and Averett was a kiss of death and its easy to say you can only beat the teams you schedule, and scheduling is hard, but none of those teams have a recent consistent record of being anything besides mediocre to poor. It seems like Guilford is trying to learn from that mistake, scheduling Huntingdon is huge, but playing only 8 D3 games presents its own challenges.

[hasanova]

Wow. Only 8 real D3 games.

Yeah, I noticed that also.

I don't think it really matters. The ODAC is pretty much a one bid league. But still, I don't like the implication. I've said again and again that I hate being a 7 team league...

It doesn't matter ... we are a one-bid league at the moment.  If Guilford couldn't break through in 2015, I doubt anyone will for a while.  The absence of Catholic and the increased size of the USASAC is a double whammy, but it's a boon for NNA with all the ODAC schools needing to fill a spot.  GC has played them before, but it's been a while.

I still think Guilford didn't break through in 2015 because they didn't play anyone besides W&L. 1-1 Regionally Ranked is a lot better than 0-1. But you have to play someone non-conf with at least a winning record. 3-7, 4-6, 2-7 for Greensboro, Methodist, and Averett was a kiss of death and its easy to say you can only beat the teams you schedule, and scheduling is hard, but none of those teams have a recent consistent record of being anything besides mediocre to poor. It seems like Guilford is trying to learn from that mistake, scheduling Huntingdon is huge, but playing only 8 D3 games presents its own challenges.

I think you are partially right, but, as you said, you can only play who your AD scheduled.  I am shocked that we are not playing Greensboro after 20 years ... not sure if that was Guilford hoping to beef up the schedule or Greensboro tired of getting pummeled.  It could be, of course, that Greensboro has increased demands from a larger USASAC.  Either way, the ODAC has to find an eighth member!

[jknezek]

Agreed. We need an eight member. No idea where it comes from and I doubt there is a simple solution since it hasn't been done yet. I was shocked when W&L and Centre stopped playing. It's very disconcerting to lose a long time rival game. With Guilford and Greensboro across town, I'm double surprised that game went away. I think most teams have one weak OOC, but you need to make up for it with your other chances.

[tigerFanAlso2]

SVa, AVU, Ferrum, CNU, Maryville .... you're right, no really good options for 8th member.

[Pat Coleman]

At one point there had been talks about perhaps the USAC lending the ODAC a football member but I think that was under the previous USAC commissioner. No idea if that is still of interest to to the USAC. But with nine USAC members playing football, it's not exactly ideal for them, either.

The conferences could do that, or could have some sort of scheduling agreement, but 9 vs. 7 makes it more of a challenge.

[hasanova]

At one point there had been talks about perhaps the USAC lending the ODAC a football member but I think that was under the previous USAC commissioner. No idea if that is still of interest to to the USAC. But with nine USAC members playing football, it's not exactly ideal for them, either.

The conferences could do that, or could have some sort of scheduling agreement, but 9 vs. 7 makes it more of a challenge.

I remember that banter last year when the USASAC said they had an announcement, but it was something relatively minor ... can't remember what ... an extra color on their webpage or something equally trivial.

[Hawks88]

At one point there had been talks about perhaps the USAC lending the ODAC a football member but I think that was under the previous USAC commissioner. No idea if that is still of interest to to the USAC. But with nine USAC members playing football, it's not exactly ideal for them, either.

The conferences could do that, or could have some sort of scheduling agreement, but 9 vs. 7 makes it more of a challenge.

I remember that banter last year when the USASAC said they had an announcement, but it was something relatively minor ... can't remember what ... an extra color on their webpage or something equally trivial.

New facebook page.

[Mr. Ypsi]

At one point there had been talks about perhaps the USAC lending the ODAC a football member but I think that was under the previous USAC commissioner. No idea if that is still of interest to to the USAC. But with nine USAC members playing football, it's not exactly ideal for them, either.

The conferences could do that, or could have some sort of scheduling agreement, but 9 vs. 7 makes it more of a challenge.

While we have no beef with returning conference member Carroll (though their football team seems to have a shortage of beef! ), I don't think any CCIW posters like having a 9-member conference.  Feel free to 'poach' whichever member you want (though they may demand compensation for airplane expenses)!

[tigerFanAlso2]

USAC needs to send one of their Virginia members over, for all sports. Lets get it done AU or Ferrum ?

[jknezek]

USAC needs to send one of their Virginia members over, for all sports. Lets get it done AU or Ferrum ?

Why all sports? We hardly need another member in many sports. We've given up home and homes in more than a few sports. If we could just borrow one for football that would be great. Somehow I think if it was going to happen, it would have already...

[Pat Coleman]

At one point there had been talks about perhaps the USAC lending the ODAC a football member but I think that was under the previous USAC commissioner. No idea if that is still of interest to to the USAC. But with nine USAC members playing football, it's not exactly ideal for them, either.

The conferences could do that, or could have some sort of scheduling agreement, but 9 vs. 7 makes it more of a challenge.

While we have no beef with returning conference member Carroll (though their football team seems to have a shortage of beef! ), I don't think any CCIW posters like having a 9-member conference.  Feel free to 'poach' whichever member you want (though they may demand compensation for airplane expenses)!

Don't forget you get Wash U in the CCIW for football in 2018.

[tigerFanAlso2]

just because I think it would stink to compete in the odac in football and USAC for all other sports. makes it harder to develop rivals, etc.

I don't think it will happen either.