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tigerFanAlso2

I'm pretty sure HSC will have no problems tomorrow; like you said, if they do it's on to 2018

HSCTiger fan

I have a very hard time believing anything that ranks HSC as worst in ODAC. Time will tell, but based on returning players, zero coaching turnover, and my biases HSC will be in the title hunt in November. HSC went 3-4 last year with the worst defense they've probably ever played. This year's team is most definitely better than last year's.
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

jknezek

Quote from: HSCTiger fan on August 25, 2017, 02:50:58 PM
I have a very hard time believing anything that ranks HSC as worst in ODAC. Time will tell, but based on returning players, zero coaching turnover, and my biases HSC will be in the title hunt in November. HSC went 3-4 last year with the worst defense they've probably ever played. This year's team is most definitely better than last year's.

I'm not going to lie, I'm having an issue with that too. Time will tell, but HSC had enough horses last year to stay well out of the bottom of the ODAC. I'd be very much surprised if they sunk down that low this year. But, I do think this year is likely to have an incredible amount of parity. Even more than usual. Without a team like Catholic, or a dominant team, it feels like a true food fight. The difference between first, and seventh, could be 4-2 versus 2-4, with a whole lot of ugly A beat B, but B beat C, and C beat A, and D beat them all, but lost to E and F, who lost to all of them except and G, who went 3-3.

tigerFanAlso2

Jk

agreed, can you imagine were the odac champ is going for first round, talking about ugly

jknezek

Quote from: tigerFanAlso2 on August 25, 2017, 04:30:35 PM
Jk

agreed, can you imagine were the odac champ is going for first round, talking about ugly

We can cross that bridge when we get to it, but it's been a while since it hasn't been ugly anywhere the ODAC champ got sent.

HSCTiger fan

HSC scrimmages Greensboro College today in Richmond.  Any other teams scrimmaging today?  I heard Guilford scrimmaged Ferrum and W&L scrimmaged Brevard.  I heard Ferrum and GC was basically a draw. Any word from others?
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

hasanova

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Quote from: Hawks88 on August 24, 2017, 01:40:36 PM
Ok, stupid question time. How is Guilford pronounced? I have always pronounced it as Gilford with the first part sounding the same as guilt. The USA South has been releasing team previews one a day for the last week and a half and finally got to Huntingdon today. At the end when the girl was telling who our first game is against she pronounce it Gulford with the first part sounding like gull. Which one is correct?
You've been saying it correctly - the announcer was wrong and had not done her research.  Wish they would hire people familiar with the teams.  :)  There are both a Guilford and a Guildford in England, so the early settlers named Guilford County, NC in honor of Guilford, England.  There is also a Guilford, CT.  The "U" is essentially silent.  It is pronounced as "Gil" as in "guilt" not "guile" as in "beguile".  It's also pronounced as "gill" and definitely not as "gull".  Hope this helps.

hasanova

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Quote from: tigerFanAlso2 on August 25, 2017, 10:04:03 AM
or Guilford so high. GC went 0-6 in conference last year but are projected at 4-2 this year. They have 4 of 6 odac games at home so that might be possible, but all said, if they finish 4-2 that is one hell of a turn around. Let's get the season started and we'll see. HSC scrimmages Greensboro tomorrow. If HSC can't control the line of scrimmage vs. those guys, could be another long year. Fingers crossed.
I'm somewhat surprised to see Guilford at #86 also.  Perhaps d3football knows, as Quaker fans know, that 2016 was a bit of an aberration after Bell got hurt.  Guilford actually went 1-6 in the ODAC in 2016, by trouncing Catholic, but did lose their last 6 in 2016, which was 0-6 against the current ODAC membership.

HSCTiger fan

HSC is trouncing greensboro today in Richmond.

How d3football came up with their rankings is a mystery. GC 86 and 3rd best in ODAC while they rank HSC 123 and last.  It may all work out exactly as predicted. But based on returning players and coaches it has no merit. GC loses more in their 2 deep from last season than any other ODAC team other than RMC.
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

Pat Coleman

Quote from: HSCTiger fan on August 26, 2017, 02:19:47 PM
HSC is trouncing greensboro today in Richmond.

How d3football came up with their rankings is a mystery. GC 86 and 3rd best in ODAC while they rank HSC 123 and last.  It may all work out exactly as predicted. But based on returning players and coaches it has no merit. GC loses more in their 2 deep from last season than any other ODAC team other than RMC.

I hope that with all the angst over our rankings that we actually have fans who purchased Kickoff!

Two things to keep in mind:

Every ODAC team is in the top half of our rankings.
The top ODAC team is within 50 spots of the bottom team. No other conference is that highly ranked *and* that tightly packed.
Publisher. Questions? Check our FAQ for D3f, D3h.
Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

HSCTiger fan

Quote from: hasanova on August 26, 2017, 12:54:50 PM
Quote from: tigerFanAlso2 on August 25, 2017, 10:04:03 AM
or Guilford so high. GC went 0-6 in conference last year but are projected at 4-2 this year. They have 4 of 6 odac games at home so that might be possible, but all said, if they finish 4-2 that is one hell of a turn around. Let's get the season started and we'll see. HSC scrimmages Greensboro tomorrow. If HSC can't control the line of scrimmage vs. those guys, could be another long year. Fingers crossed.
I'm somewhat surprised to see Guilford at #86 also.  Perhaps d3football knows, as Quaker fans know, that 2016 was a bit of an aberration after Bell got hurt.  Guilford actually went 1-6 in the ODAC in 2016, by trouncing Catholic, but did lose their last 6 in 2016, which was 0-6 against the current ODAC membership.

It was HSC who lost the leagues best RB (Koonce). Still found a way to win 3 conference games. If Guilford laid down last year because of 1 player getting hurt then shame on them. Guilford fans cried boo-hoo in 2015 when its only loss came after QB got hurt. It gets old to keep blaming losses on injuries. Every team has them. No one cares

Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

HSCTiger fan

Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 26, 2017, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on August 26, 2017, 02:19:47 PM
HSC is trouncing greensboro today in Richmond.

How d3football came up with their rankings is a mystery. GC 86 and 3rd best in ODAC while they rank HSC 123 and last.  It may all work out exactly as predicted. But based on returning players and coaches it has no merit. GC loses more in their 2 deep from last season than any other ODAC team other than RMC.

I hope that with all the angst over our rankings that we actually have fans who purchased Kickoff!

Two things to keep in mind:

Every ODAC team is in the top half of our rankings.
The top ODAC team is within 50 spots of the bottom team. No other conference is that highly ranked *and* that tightly packed.

I know you guys do a lot of work on Kickoff. It's appreciated by d3 fans everywhere. But ranking HSC dead last was an oversight or lack of understanding.  What formula could you have possibly used to make this determination?  In any other year when HSC returns their starting QB, RB, and WR they'd be ranked as best in ODAC. Granted after having laid an egg last year first place would seem too high to rank them. But last?  Com'on man! 
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

Pat Coleman

Quote from: HSCTiger fan on August 26, 2017, 02:49:10 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 26, 2017, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on August 26, 2017, 02:19:47 PM
HSC is trouncing greensboro today in Richmond.

How d3football came up with their rankings is a mystery. GC 86 and 3rd best in ODAC while they rank HSC 123 and last.  It may all work out exactly as predicted. But based on returning players and coaches it has no merit. GC loses more in their 2 deep from last season than any other ODAC team other than RMC.

I hope that with all the angst over our rankings that we actually have fans who purchased Kickoff!

Two things to keep in mind:

Every ODAC team is in the top half of our rankings.
The top ODAC team is within 50 spots of the bottom team. No other conference is that highly ranked *and* that tightly packed.

I know you guys do a lot of work on Kickoff. It's appreciated by d3 fans everywhere. But ranking HSC dead last was an oversight or lack of understanding.  What formula could you have possibly used to make this determination?  In any other year when HSC returns their starting QB, RB, and WR they'd be ranked as best in ODAC. Granted after having laid an egg last year first place would seem too high to rank them. But last?  Com'on man!

If you were someone who actually purchased Kickoff and read the team previews, you might be more informed as to how.
Publisher. Questions? Check our FAQ for D3f, D3h.
Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

HSCTiger fan

I did not purchase for the first time in years because you seldom have interesting articles about ODAC teams. I'll buy it today if you try to justify your ranking.
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

Pat Coleman

Quote from: HSCTiger fan on August 26, 2017, 02:53:08 PM
I did not purchase for the first time in years because you seldom have interesting articles about ODAC teams. I'll buy it today if you try to justify your ranking.

Glad to justify something to a subscriber. Someone who hasn't read it doesn't really have standing to demand justification, though.
Publisher. Questions? Check our FAQ for D3f, D3h.
Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.