FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[D3MAFAN]

ODAC fans, looking to read some thoughts on the Bridgewater/HSC game.  Is Bridgewater as good as they have played?  Can HSC get the win?

That's a good question. Here's the thing about Bridgewater... Gettysburg is 0-4, TMC is 1-3, and Apprentice is 1-3. Gettysburg lost to Dickinson, who was destroyed by 3 other teams, and Bridgewater eeked out that win over the Bullets. TMC pretty much dominated Bridgewater in all stats but penalties and score. That game looks very fluky. And Apprentice, other than beating Greensboro pretty badly, which everyone will do this year since The Pride is probably the worst team in the South Region, hasn't been competitive in any of their other 3 games.

Is Bridgewater Top 25? I very much doubt it. They are RV based on beating TMC, though W&J and CMU have both gotten even smaller vote bumps for doing the same thing. The other two teams they played are simply not that good.

Is Bridgewater going to be competitive in the ODAC? I absolutely believe they will be.

Can HSC win? Yes. I have Bridgewater in my "pick'em" right now, but I'm very tempted to flip that around. I think this game is very much a toss up at best.

If HSC wins, it would only add to the ODACkiness this conference have every couple years.

[jknezek]

If HSC wins, it would only add to the ODACkiness this conference have every couple years.

I don't really think so. Bridgewater may be 2-0 (D3), but those 2 teams have 1 win and 7 losses between them. HSC may be 1-2, but their opponents are 8-3. The non-conf games are so variable in terms of opponent I think we know very little about Bridgewater's or HSC's quality vis a vis each other right now.

[wesleydad]

If HSC wins, it would only add to the ODACkiness this conference have every couple years.

I don't really think so. Bridgewater may be 2-0 (D3), but those 2 teams have 1 win and 7 losses between them. HSC may be 1-2, but their opponents are 8-3. The non-conf games are so variable in terms of opponent I think we know very little about Bridgewater's or HSC's quality vis a vis each other right now.

I took HSC

[HSCTiger fan]

If HSC wins, it would only add to the ODACkiness this conference have every couple years.

I don't really think so. Bridgewater may be 2-0 (D3), but those 2 teams have 1 win and 7 losses between them. HSC may be 1-2, but their opponents are 8-3. The non-conf games are so variable in terms of opponent I think we know very little about Bridgewater's or HSC's quality vis a vis each other right now.

I took HSC

Good bet.

[SaintsFAN]

If HSC wins, it would only add to the ODACkiness this conference have every couple years.

I don't really think so. Bridgewater may be 2-0 (D3), but those 2 teams have 1 win and 7 losses between them. HSC may be 1-2, but their opponents are 8-3. The non-conf games are so variable in terms of opponent I think we know very little about Bridgewater's or HSC's quality vis a vis each other right now.

I'll take Bridgewater, if they play like they did in Crestview Hills in week 2.  Very opportunistic.

[tigerFanAlso2]

jk

My predictions for week 4;

HSC over BC  27 to 21
RMC over SU  28 to 21
W&L over E&H  35 to 28
Jacksonville over GC (no clue)

What say you ?

[jknezek]

jk

My predictions for week 4;

HSC over BC  27 to 21
RMC over SU  28 to 21
W&L over E&H  35 to 28
Jacksonville over GC (no clue)

What say you ?

I think BC wins, and I think it is higher scoring. More like 35-31.
I like your RMC call and score. I think if SU gets to 30, they win. If RMC can hold them under that, the YellowJackets win.
Your score on W&L is exactly what I'd go with. If W&L can score more than 30, the Generals should win.
I think Jacksonville kills GC. Maybe in the 60-7 range. But that's just a guess.

[tigerFanAlso2]

we'll see how it plays out but I don't think BC scores 35 on HSC. Defense is pretty stout.

[D-BAT]

SU wins 51-38.

ASHLAND, Va. – The Shenandoah University football team earned its first win over Randolph-Macon since joining the Old Dominion Athletic Conference with a 51-38 ODAC victory over the Yellow Jackets Thursday night at Day Field.

Quarterback Hayden Bauserman was virtually unstoppable in the Hornets (3-1, 1-0 ODAC) win – the junior finished his night 32-for-60 for a school-record 558 yards and six touchdowns.

Bauserman completed passes to eight different receivers with senior Leonard Scott grabbing seven balls for 162 yards and three touchdowns and classmate Michael Ashwell added eight catches for 64 yards and a TD.

http://suhornets.com/sports/fball/2017-18/releases/20170928xocdhw

[HSCTiger fan]

SU wins 51-38.

ASHLAND, Va. – The Shenandoah University football team earned its first win over Randolph-Macon since joining the Old Dominion Athletic Conference with a 51-38 ODAC victory over the Yellow Jackets Thursday night at Day Field.

Quarterback Hayden Bauserman was virtually unstoppable in the Hornets (3-1, 1-0 ODAC) win – the junior finished his night 32-for-60 for a school-record 558 yards and six touchdowns.

Bauserman completed passes to eight different receivers with senior Leonard Scott grabbing seven balls for 162 yards and three touchdowns and classmate Michael Ashwell added eight catches for 64 yards and a TD.

http://suhornets.com/sports/fball/2017-18/releases/20170928xocdhw

I'm surprised by the numbers but not the fact that RMC is struggling on defense. When a team loses as many really good players as they lost it's hard to replace. As much as people want to say tradition never graduates, sometimes it does.

[jknezek]

SU wins 51-38.

ASHLAND, Va. – The Shenandoah University football team earned its first win over Randolph-Macon since joining the Old Dominion Athletic Conference with a 51-38 ODAC victory over the Yellow Jackets Thursday night at Day Field.

Quarterback Hayden Bauserman was virtually unstoppable in the Hornets (3-1, 1-0 ODAC) win – the junior finished his night 32-for-60 for a school-record 558 yards and six touchdowns.

Bauserman completed passes to eight different receivers with senior Leonard Scott grabbing seven balls for 162 yards and three touchdowns and classmate Michael Ashwell added eight catches for 64 yards and a TD.

http://suhornets.com/sports/fball/2017-18/releases/20170928xocdhw

I'm surprised by the numbers but not the fact that RMC is struggling on defense. When a team loses as many really good players as they lost it's hard to replace. As much as people want to say tradition never graduates, sometimes it does.

Color me surprised, though I think we started to see it against Catholic. I thought they had enough depth to have 80 or 85% of the defense they had last year. I don't think they are anywhere near that right now. That being said, I've repeatedly pointed to Bauserman as the real deal. I'm not a real fan of 32 for 60, but when you get 558 yards on those 32, averaging 17.4 yards per completion, it makes up for a lot of incompletions.

[SaintsFAN]

we'll see how it plays out but I don't think BC scores 35 on HSC. Defense is pretty stout.

Agree with this take.  But I think BC's defense will show up.  I feel like if BC can get 24-ish points on the board, they have a good chance to win. 

[tigerFanAlso2]

SaintsFan

Agreed, HSC will not be over matched but will be a home underdog. HSC can win only if they have no KEY turnovers leading to points. Special teams just handed UWP 21 points and that makes it difficult, if not impossible, to win vs. a decent team.

Real questions is what ODAC team will be able to slow down the SU QB ? Do you blitz him often or drop 8 into coverage ? 

[jknezek]

SaintsFan

Agreed, HSC will not be over matched but will be a home underdog. HSC can win only if they have no KEY turnovers leading to points. Special teams just handed UWP 21 points and that makes it difficult, if not impossible, to win vs. a decent team.

Real questions is what ODAC team will be able to slow down the SU QB ? Do you blitz him often or drop 8 into coverage ?

I think some ODAC schools will be able to win the LOS. Other than that, keep him off the field. He threw 60 times last night, but only connected on slightly more than half. If you limit the plays, that kind of ratio doesn't work as well. Hobart only allowed SU 67 offensive plays total. RMC gave them 80, NC Wes let them have 99 for crying out loud, Gallaudet allowed 89.

If you are an offense determined to win a shoot out, SU stands a good chance of pulling your pants down. If you can run the clock, run the darn ball, and don't turn it over, Bauserman will have fewer chances to hurt you.

The other thing to remember about last night, RMC was picked 4 times. One was a pick six.

But yeah, I'd let the 4 up front just pin their ears back and drop everyone else in coverage. I think most front 4s can stop SU's run game. Let the rest of the guys stay in coverage. Don't let them behind you. Give ground all the way to the red zone and then make SU find room to score once the field is compressed.

SU had 40, 39, and 31 yard TD passes last night. Plus the 20+ yard pick six, and a few more TD passes in the 10-15 yard range. Only one SU TD came from inside the 10...

[tigerFanAlso2]

And unfortunately our offensive line is not winning the LOS, at least not through the first three games. If that does not change, HSC will be forced to beat SU in a shot out and not sure I'm liking our chances; but much can change before we tee it up against SU.

Good luck this weekend, I'd like to see W&L put an a** kicking on E&H.