FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[tigerFanAlso2]

TigerFan

I hope you are right about but I do question the QB; way too many interceptions but I'm pulling for him to become an AA.
Let's go Tigers/Beat Macon

[HSCTiger fan]

Through their first 2 years in interceptions:
Sedlar - 38
Lane - 30
Nance - 27
Cobb - 30

Cobb set the HSC record for completions last year. He threw 29 TDS against only 11 interceptions. Time to forget about 2016 that was Cobb’s sophomore year and he was forced into action from injury to starter. He was eager but probably not quite ready then. Last year he was and proved to be very good. Last year he had a break out year. I truly expect him to be even better this fall.

[tigerFanAlso2]

Like I said earlier, I'm pulling for him to become an AA. I agree with most of your comments and I will not focus on the ones I don't agree with.
Tigers need a great 2018 season; hopefully our running game will improve and take pressure off Cobb by forcing the opposing defense to defend the entire field; not allowing them to drop 8/9 into coverage 99.9% of the time.

I see a real opportunity for a great run in 2018; it all starts with the OOC schedule. Hopefully we come out of that 3-0 with lots of confidence and no to few injuries.

Like I said earlier, Go Tigers/Beat Macon !!!!!!!

[HSCTiger fan]

TFA our conversation got me thinking. So I look at some more stats.
I looked back at the last 11 years. 5 QBs started those 11 seasons.  2 or 3 of them will be in HSC’s hOF one day.  Here is how Cobb’s season last year stacks up beside some of the best to ever play at HSC.

Completions: 295 first
Attempts: 425 forth
Comp pct 68.9 % first
Yards 3063 yards 6th - the most per game since Lane in 2011
TDS thrown 29 ties for 2nd
QB Efficiency 146.3 2nd to Sedler’s sophomore year.  11 years ago.
Interceptions 11 first - the best in 11 years.

Last year HSC only ran for 792 yards, which was by far the worst year.  The next worst year HSC ran for 1013.  I agree with you that HSC needs to run the ball much better.

[tigerFanAlso2]

Need the OL to step up and that can happen

[HSCTiger fan]

Here's how I think coaches will vote in a week or two:

1.  RMC
2.  WL
3.  HSC
4.  SU
5.  EH
6.  BC
7.  GC
8.  FC

Here's how I think it will end up.

1.  RMC
2.  HSC
3.  SU
4.  WL
5.  BC
6.  GC
7.  EH
8.  FC

Any others want to take a guess?

[jknezek]

Here's how I think coaches will vote in a week or two:

1.  RMC
2.  WL
3.  HSC
4.  SU
5.  EH
6.  BC
7.  GC
8.  FC

Here's how I think it will end up.

1.  RMC
2.  HSC
3.  SU
4.  WL
5.  BC
6.  GC
7.  EH
8.  FC

Any others want to take a guess?

Not until after I get a look at Kickoff. I suspect with W&L hosting RMC, HSC and Shenandoah they won't lose all 3 of those games. Lexington has been a very tough place to play for ODAC teams. I also think if HSC starts the season 0-2, a possibility, they will not get back on track. RMC opens with JHU. That is a huge game for them. It was for W&L last year. Taking the BlueJays to OT and almost getting the win really helped with confidence. RMC can do the same. If they get shelled, it could have the opposite effect. Especially following up with a tricky Averett. If Averett is good, both HSC and RMC could start 0-2. Those are tough holes to recover from.

[tigerFanAlso2]

JK is correct, a 0-2 start will be difficult to recover from. I do think AU will be very competitive again this year. Both HSC and RMC only beat AU by 3 points each and that was a home game for HSC. On the flip side; HSC starts 3-0 watch the Tigers roll.

[tigerFanAlso2]

TigerFan

AU has 2 showing up on the preseason AA selections, one being the licker. Safe to say AU will have a kicking advantage and this game could easily be decided by a PA or FG. Hopefully HSC will be able to execute on PA's this year. Hoping to execute a FG could be dreaming unless a freshman shows up.

[HSCTiger fan]

0-2?  I guess it çould happen to HSC or any other ODAC team for that matter. You and JK sure give a lot of respect to Averett. They've had 1 winning season in this decade. HSC has had 1 losing season this decade. CNU sure they beat HSC last year but they were 4-5 in their other 9 games. Look I'm not saying 0-2 won't or can't happen. But if HSC is going to compete for an ODAC championship they should win those games.

[jknezek]

0-2?  I guess it çould happen to HSC or any other ODAC team for that matter. You and JK sure give a lot of respect to Averett. They've had 1 winning season in this decade. HSC has had 1 losing season this decade. CNU sure they beat HSC last year but they were 4-5 in their other 9 games. Look I'm not saying 0-2 won't or can't happen. But if HSC is going to compete for an ODAC championship they should win those games.

I'm not really. I think if Averett build off last year they could be good, which is what I wrote. I have no idea which way they are heading. But... most of last decade they had horrible facilities. That has changed. And since it has, and since Coach Adams has come, they have consistently moved toward being a better squad. Short term trend, 3 years of increasing win totals, and this year will be important for them to see if they can solidify it or not. With H-SC and RMC on their schedule, they better be good or they will be in a hole right off the bat.

CNU was 4-5 in their other 9? That's true. But as loathe as I am to admit it, the NJAC is a better conference than the ODAC.

[HSCTiger fan]

0-2?  I guess it çould happen to HSC or any other ODAC team for that matter. You and JK sure give a lot of respect to Averett. They've had 1 winning season in this decade. HSC has had 1 losing season this decade. CNU sure they beat HSC last year but they were 4-5 in their other 9 games. Look I'm not saying 0-2 won't or can't happen. But if HSC is going to compete for an ODAC championship they should win those games.

CNU was 4-5 in their other 9? That's true. But as loathe as I am to admit it, the NJAC is a better conference than the ODAC.

Let's say the NJAC is better. Who did CNU beat?  0-10 William Patterson and 1-9 SVA are two of those four wins. Where do you think either of those teams would finish in the ODAC?  Sure Wesley most years has been better than any ODAC team. But CNU was blown out against Wesley. Any ODAC team could accomplish that. Their best win last year was their win against HSC. It was their ONLY win against a team that finished the season with a winning record.

Sure Coach Adams has done a good job but his record is 1-9 against ODAC teams 1-7 the last 3 years.  And yes they beat the worst HSC team in recent history 2 years ago.

Like I said earlier IF HSC is going to be in the title hunt they should win these games. If they lose both of them? Well WL started 0-2 in 2010 and won the ODAC. I see no reason HSC could not do the same thing.

[jknezek]

0-2?  I guess it çould happen to HSC or any other ODAC team for that matter. You and JK sure give a lot of respect to Averett. They've had 1 winning season in this decade. HSC has had 1 losing season this decade. CNU sure they beat HSC last year but they were 4-5 in their other 9 games. Look I'm not saying 0-2 won't or can't happen. But if HSC is going to compete for an ODAC championship they should win those games.

CNU was 4-5 in their other 9? That's true. But as loathe as I am to admit it, the NJAC is a better conference than the ODAC.

Let's say the NJAC is better. Who did CNU beat?  0-10 William Patterson and 1-9 SVA are two of those four wins. Where do you think either of those teams would finish in the ODAC?  Sure Wesley most years has been better than any ODAC team. But CNU was blown out against Wesley. Any ODAC team could accomplish that. Their best win last year was their win against HSC. It was their ONLY win against a team that finished the season with a winning record. 

Well... we don't have a lot to go on, but SVU beat Apprentice by a lesser score than Shenandoah, H-SC, RMC, and a similar score to E&H. So I don't think anyone will be surprised next year if SVU is toward the bottom of the ODAC. Willy Pat lost to SVU, so we could probably put them farther down the list. I'm thinking Wesley, Frostberg and Salisbury all would have been able to win the ODAC last year. Montclair and CNU would have finished closer to the top than the middle, but maybe not been able to win it. Kean and TCNJ in the middle and Rowan probably around there also. But yeah, I think there are 2 teams that would have won the ODAC and 1 team that most likely would have, so a better conference is a fair assessment.

Sure Coach Adams has done a good job but his record is 1-9 against ODAC teams 1-7 the last 3 years.  And yes they beat the worst HSC team in recent history 2 years ago.

Yes. But like I said, before he arrived they were 0-10. They had 2 win seasons, a 5 win and a 6 win. Looking at the last 2 years, they lost by 3 and 4 to H-SC and RMC, teams that were in the ODAC hunt until the last week essentially. The year before they beat a bad H-SC and got soundly beaten by a championship RMC. So 1-3, but all 3 losses to teams that either were in the ODAC hunt to the end of the season. That reflects well on Averett's progress.

Like I said earlier IF HSC is going to be in the title hunt they should win these games. If they lose both of them? Well WL started 0-2 in 2010 and won the ODAC. I see no reason HSC could not do the same thing.

Agreed on the first item. If HSC is going to be in the hunt they should win at least one of these games. And W&L started 1-2 in 2010. Lost to F&M, beat Sewanee, lost to Averett.

[HSCTiger fan]

I agree the top of the njac is better than the top of the ODAC.  But CNU did not beat a top of njac team. My point was that just because they play njac teams and lose does not make them  a team that should scare any ODAC contending team. Same for Averett just because they are showing improvement does not mean an ODAC contending team should be overly concerned.

Having said that maybe HSC is not a contending team. Or maybe they are and Averett and CNU are just better than HSC. Those games may be important for a team's mental health but mean nothing in determining who is going to win the ODAC.

I'm gone til Monday so you guys have fun on the boards.

[jknezek]

I agree the top of the njac is better than the top of the ODAC.  But CNU did not beat a top of njac team. My point was that just because they play njac teams and lose does not make them  a team that should scare any ODAC contending team.

No, but they did beat a contending ODAC team, which HSC was pretty much until the last week. By two scores. And scare isn't the right word. I don't really think teams are scared. Not even of UMU. They may feel pessimistic, but not scared. I certainly don't think HSC is scared of CNU or Averett. I do think it's possible HSC could lose to those teams. Though probably not likely they will lose to them both.