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allsky7

Quote from: hasanova on January 02, 2007, 02:28:11 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 02, 2007, 01:01:39 PM
The way Boise State played straight-up with Oklahoma was impressive, and in fact, they built a 28-10 lead without trick plays. The highlights are misleading because they spotlight, as necessary, the three plays at the end, but it's not like trick plays were what kept Boise State in the game.
Thanks, Pat.  As you stated, they played OU head-to-head without gimmicks, so I wasn't clear enough in my description.  The trick plays only came in the last few seconds of regulation and in OT, but they were great!  I just like to see an underdog come through.  I'm sure almost everyone in Boomer Sooner country will disagree including all my friends with whom I used to work and visit on business trips to Frederick, OK, but for the rest of us it was terrific.  This game was another good example (to me) of why a national playoff system is needed.  :)

       Truly an instant classic. One of the best games I have ever seen. And the right team won. Being a Vol fan it pains me to say but now if Florida can beat OSU, the BCS will be totally "monkey wrenched".  :)  As a d3 guy I just sit here and gloat. I have absolutely no sympathy for the NCAA and their little mess.  ;D

Matt Barnhart (kid)

Oh my ... I agree with the ATH and PTI guys when they said it was one of the best cfb games ever (along with Cal/Stanford, and last year's BCS title game).  WOW!

I started watching it once it was 28-10 (I was following it on the internet during my poker tournament ... figured it would be a blowout - the other way).

So I tuned in and stayed up till 1:30 am ... I even woke my wife up for the overtime ... she was even impressed!

One heck of a game ... if Florida beats OSU, you might see some voters give BSU some first place votes.
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imad3fanatic

 "Trick Plays", sorry but that won't fly with me. The two point conversion was a well executed fake by the QB and the hook and lateral was a well executed pass play. The fact that the plays fooled the OU defense doesn't make them "trick plays". Just because they are not used very often doesn"t make them "trick plays". They were well executed plays from the BSU playbook. Every play by their very nature are meant to trick or deceive the opponent. The play action pass is meant to trick the defense into thinking run not pass, so is that a "trick play"? There are no trick plays left in football since the "fumblerooski" was banned.

hasanova

Quote from: imad3fanatic on January 02, 2007, 07:40:24 PM
"Trick Plays", sorry but that won't fly with me. The two point conversion was a well executed fake by the QB and the hook and lateral was a well executed pass play. The fact that the plays fooled the OU defense doesn't make them "trick plays". Just because they are not used very often doesn"t make them "trick plays". They were well executed plays from the BSU playbook. Every play by their very nature are meant to trick or deceive the opponent. The play action pass is meant to trick the defense into thinking run not pass, so is that a "trick play"? There are no trick plays left in football since the "fumblerooski" was banned.
ima - You're technically right, but it's just semantics and the commonly used football parlance.  I don't think the rest of us put quite as much thought into as you, but I think we can all agree they were well executed and fun to watch.  :)  Peace

Pat Coleman

That's why coaches tend to call them "gadget plays" but most people don't speak coachspeak.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

beenhit2hard

In my 3rd year of coaching,,,1966,,I lost a game on a similar  play,,the rec ran a curl, caught the ball ,,started to the middle of the field,,and then hit the lateral,,,and the QB came up the sideline to follow the pitch man,,,some things don't change,,,,and I agree,,what a great fb game,,,Ohio State and Boise,,both undefeated and 12-0,,a couple of good jobs of coaching,, now if D 1 will just get a playoff we will see more great games

allsky7

      I hope everyone had a great Christmas and your 2007 is off to a good start. Was just curious if anyone has seen We Are Marshall? I saw it New Years Eve. What a great movie!! I'm sure Hollywood spiced it up a tad but still great story that should be told. Being a Ferrum grad, I knew there was a Ferrum connection, so I researched it a little.  Seven Ferrum players and the MU head coach/former Ferrum assistant (Tolley) under Hank Norton were on the plane. There was also a connection to Hampden-Sydney. (Deke Brackett)
     Anyway, I thought maybe somebody else might find this interesting. Happy New Year!!

http://www.marshall.edu/LIBRARY/speccoll/virtual_museum/Memorial/teamphoto.asp

Matt Barnhart (kid)

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hasanova

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Quote from: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 03, 2007, 08:20:52 AM
Quote from: imad3fanatic on January 02, 2007, 07:40:24 PM[...] hook and lateral [...]

Isn't it the hook and latter?
Actually, Matt, I think it's "hook and ladder," but it does involve a lateral.  As you well know, a receiver will take a pass while facing the line of scrimmage and then lateral it to another offensive player (streaking to a corner of the end zone!) once the defense commits to covering the original receiver.  That's exactly what Boise State did on the 4th and 18 call from the 50 yard line with just a few seconds left in regulation.  I don't know the exact origin of the phrase, but I bet it comes from those big city fire trucks that have to steer the ladder sections careening wildly around crowded intersections.

Pat Coleman

Much different than the hook and former, which must involve pitching it back to the quarterback. :)
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Llamaguy

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 02, 2007, 01:01:39 PM
The way Boise State played straight-up with Oklahoma was impressive, and in fact, they built a 28-10 lead without trick plays. The highlights are misleading because they spotlight, as necessary, the three plays at the end, but it's not like trick plays were what kept Boise State in the game.

Yes but what really showed was how prepared Boise St. was for that game. To even have all those plays ready was a feat in itself, to execute 3 of 4 of them was unbealievable. As I said when they were going for the 2pt conversion to win, "this guy is a gambler." Then after seeing the play he used I said " yeah a gambler playing with a stacked deck." There was only one way in the world that that play didn't succeed which would have been a fumble on the handoff exchange. OU didn't have a chance to defend that play and the Boise St coach knew it.
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hasanova

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 03, 2007, 01:00:13 PM
Much different than the hook and former, which must involve pitching it back to thequarterback. :)
Yeah, Pat, don't think something similar didn't also cross my mind.  lol  Of "hook and lateral" and "hook and ladder," the latter is figuratively correct.  Either way, however, who cares?  It was so much fun to watch!  :)

Pat Coleman

I've heard both ladder and lateral ... as well as hitch and pitch, to describe that play.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

hasanova

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 03, 2007, 01:26:59 PM
I've heard both ladder and lateral ... as well as hitch and pitch, to describe that play.
By the way, I just read an AP syndicated feature story today in the Greensboro News & Record about Boise State's victory over Oklahoma.  The phrase "trick plays" was used in the article's subtitle and again in a quote by BSU's Head Coach.  :)

Matt Barnhart (kid)

For those of you who paid attention to Coach Clark being called out on FootballScoop.com on November 25 about being the leading candidate for the Jacksonville University job (someone brought it to my attention), you can stop sweating:

http://judolphins.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/010207aad.html

By the way, he never even applied for the job.
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