FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[WLU78]

Update on the televised HSC game, my buddy now thinks the year was 1976 and he has contacted two friends who think that may be it.  He will continue digging for confirmation and the opponent.  Stay tuned!

[allsky7]

I believe it was 1982--even years are always at Death Valley.

They are, aren't they?

We played much worse there in the years I can remember. All the games at Macon went pretty well, right up until the 53-21 game which happened to represent the last one I saw in person.

I thought this chart would show how things have gone better at Day Field, but it really just shows we kicked a lot more ass in the 90s, and have taken it on the chin bad since '03:

Results in Ashland
93 W 17-10 to clinch ODAC title
95 W 35-14
97 W 49-18 to clinch share of ODAC title
99 W 33-7
01 L 38-26
03 L 53-21
05 L 50-17

Results in Farmville area
94 L 24-10
96 W 20-10
98 W 45-42
00 W 26-17
02 L 7-0
04 L 50-16
06 L 46-21

The more glaring stat is the lack of wins over the Tigers in the '00s. 

But thanks for that information!!

      The Tigers have won six in a row but prior to that, the Jackets won six in row. Hopefully, the current trend will continue but I predict these games will get closer and closer. As we have discussed before, it is not good for the rivalry for it to stay lopsided for too long. I just hope that when the Jackets do knock off the Tigers, there isn't an ODAC title or playoff birth on the line.  8)

[allsky7]

Update on the televised HSC game, my buddy now thinks the year was 1976 and he has contacted two friends who think that may be it.  He will continue digging for confirmation and the opponent.  Stay tuned!

     The H-S / JMU game WAS broadcast in 1976. He thinks an H-S / R-M games was also?

[Jacketlawyer]

      The Tigers have won six in a row but prior to that, the Jackets won six in row. Hopefully, the current trend will continue but I predict these games will get closer and closer. As we have discussed before, it is not good for the rivalry for it to stay lopsided for too long. I just hope that when the Jackets do knock off the Tigers, there isn't an ODAC title or playoff birth on the line.  8)

Yeah, I remember our 6 in a row, but to be perfectly frank, I did not enjoy the Culicerto (sp?) era at Hampden-Sydney for that exact reason.  I like a little (well a LOT) of animosity in my rivalry, and it's no fun when one of the teams goes down every year like the Titantic.  The fact that we are now graduating players who have never beaten their archrival in football is kind of unfathomable to me.

I will resist the temptation to launch a rather lengthy and vitriolic diatribe here. 8)

[allsky7]

      The Tigers have won six in a row but prior to that, the Jackets won six in row. Hopefully, the current trend will continue but I predict these games will get closer and closer. As we have discussed before, it is not good for the rivalry for it to stay lopsided for too long. I just hope that when the Jackets do knock off the Tigers, there isn't an ODAC title or playoff birth on the line.  8)

Yeah, I remember our 6 in a row, but to be perfectly frank, I did not enjoy the Culicerto (sp?) era at Hampden-Sydney for that exact reason.  I like a little (well a LOT) of animosity in my rivalry, and it's no fun when one of the teams goes down every year like the Titantic.  The fact that we are now graduating players who have never beaten their archrival in football is kind of unfathomable to me.

I will resist the temptation to launch a rather lengthy and vitriolic diatribe here. 8)

     I completely understand. When you have been a part of this rivalry as long as we have, you get a little taste of it all.  8)

[WLU78]

Update on the televised HSC game, my buddy now thinks the year was 1976 and he has contacted two friends who think that may be it.  He will continue digging for confirmation and the opponent.  Stay tuned!

     The H-S / JMU game WAS broadcast in 1976. He thinks an H-S / R-M games was also?

It could very well be the JMU game, I am afraid I have opened a door into his memories that we can't now close so I will just have to ride this one out and see where we go with it.  I am not sure if you were around the SAE house during this era but...........

It was in the '70s he can't remember.  

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

Look I just have to call BS on that.  I left Matt's thesis alone because the arguement was so weak I thought it would be rhetorical to refute it.  But KMack your statement boarders on idiocy and may be the reason why newspaper readership is in a nosedive, and ad revenues along with it.  There is a reason Jason Blairs and others are discredited, a lack of professional discipline and integrity.  At the better schools you learn that kind of stuff.

It does matter because the better schools have stronger programs.  Period, that is how they got to be the "better academic schools", and the kids that don't screw around, who are disciplined enough to make the good grades, have the extracurriculars, etc will generally outperform those that "didn't" have it.  Put this same thesis on the football field and I will show you a 2-8 team, or worse. 

If any of you would saunter over to the future of DIII thread you would see most of my statements have been in line with guys that have thousands of posts and have forgotten more about DIII than I will ever learn.

But don't come on here and tell me that Camden Community college is as good as W&L after one job.  It really makes your RMC degree look like a piece of paper.

A quick disclaimer, KMack your statements could very well be true and accurate in the world of the minimum wage earners, I confess I am unfamiliar with that world.

You really aren't doing fellow W&L graduates a favor by arguing these points.

You know as well as the rest of us that many graduates of "higher institutions" already have this air about them that turns off those who don't graduate from "like" institutions.  Why continue to distance yourself from the rest of us?

((( awaiting the "That sounds like your problem, not mine" reply )))

[allsky7]

Update on the televised HSC game, my buddy now thinks the year was 1976 and he has contacted two friends who think that may be it.  He will continue digging for confirmation and the opponent.  Stay tuned!

     The H-S / JMU game WAS broadcast in 1976. He thinks an H-S / R-M games was also?

It could very well be the JMU game, I am afraid I have opened a door into his memories that we can't now close so I will just have to ride this one out and see where we go with it.  I am not sure if you were around the SAE house during this era but...........

It was in the '70s he can't remember.  

     Jacket....see what a can of worms you opened up?  I'm kidding...it is kinda fun taking a walk down memory lane. 78....My curiousity is killing me on this also. I am still waiting on a phone call with additional info. I lived literally a stones throw from frat circle and a few hundred yards from Death Valley from 1969-1983. I was around during practice, I was at almost all games home and away, I road the team bus many times, I ate in the dinning hall with the players.... You get the idea. These guys were my heroes. I lived and breathed Tiger everything but especially football.  It is funny how many people think I attended H-S. What I got there was even bigger than that. It was about as kool  8) a place to grow up as any kid could wish for.
     And yes, I have been in the SAE house. Matter of fact, I have been in all of the frat houses at one point or other. And no, it wasn't me that stole the beer from the keg outside the PiKA house in 1976. 

[Pat Coleman]

The crazy thing is that they cared to show small-school football once in a while on ABC.

Actually, I believe the NCAA made it a requirement if they wanted to get D-I games.

[Pat Coleman]

Look I just have to call BS on that.  I left Matt's thesis alone because the arguement {sic} was so weak I thought it would be rhetorical to refute it.  But KMack your statement boarders {sic} on idiocy and may be the reason why newspaper readership is in a nosedive, and ad revenues along with it.  There is a reason Jason {sic} Blairs and others are discredited, a lack of professional discipline and integrity.  At the better schools you learn that kind of stuff.

WLU78:

You obviously have no idea about journalism. Why don't you stick to something you know?

The best writer I ever worked with went to Albright. The second-best went to Oswego. The worst went to Syracuse.

Jayson Blair -- note the spelling -- went to a well-respected major university. Stephen Glass, another noted fabricator, went to Penn.

Newspaper readership is dropping because corporate ownership is more interested in squeezing profit margins from 15% up to 30% than producing a robust product, because the newspaper is not a timely enough medium for an increasing number of people. Newspaper Web site readership is on the rise. Who produces those sites? Journalists.

[Jacketlawyer]

[     Jacket....see what a can of worms you opened up? 

Yeah man!!  And I'm diggin' it.   

[WLU78]

Look I just have to call BS on that.  I left Matt's thesis alone because the arguement {sic} was so weak I thought it would be rhetorical to refute it.  But KMack your statement boarders {sic} on idiocy and may be the reason why newspaper readership is in a nosedive, and ad revenues along with it.  There is a reason Jason {sic} Blairs and others are discredited, a lack of professional discipline and integrity.  At the better schools you learn that kind of stuff.

WLU78:

You obviously have no idea about journalism. Why don't you stick to something you know?

The best writer I ever worked with went to Albright. The second-best went to Oswego. The worst went to Syracuse.

Jayson Blair -- note the spelling -- went to a well-respected major university. Stephen Glass, another noted fabricator, went to Penn.

Newspaper readership is dropping because corporate ownership is more interested in squeezing profit margins from 15% up to 30% than producing a robust product, because the newspaper is not a timely enough medium for an increasing number of people. Newspaper Web site readership is on the rise. Who produces those sites? Journalists.

That explains the accurate reporting of rapes and murders from the Superdome in the aftermath of Katrina, or the Rueters use of Photoshopped pictures and un-vetted stringers as reporting accurately!!

The reason mainstream journalism is going down the tubes is because it is a shoddy product for the most part written and produced by hack activists.  When you have a quality product people will pay for it, and production grows.  When it is stale, and tiresome people lose interest and stop buying it.

[Pat Coleman]

That explains the accurate reporting of rapes and murders from the Superdome in the aftermath of Katrina, or the Rueters use of Photoshopped pictures and un-vetted stringers as reporting accurately!!

The reason mainstream journalism is going down the tubes is because it is a shoddy product for the most part written and produced by hack activists.  When you have a quality product people will pay for it, and production grows.  When it is stale, and tiresome people lose interest and stop buying it.

No. Sounds like you have a bias that's coming through here. And let's leave TV's reporting issues out of the newspaper discussion.

[tigerfanalso]

WLU78

Don't tax your friends memory any longer as I know how painful that can be.

As I mentioned in my last post; the game he is referring to is w/o question the 1976 Madison game; televised by ABC. Jim Lampley was there. Sitting in my locker, I watched him interview our RB (Friday afternoon before practice).

I got the score wrong in my post but AllSky had my back and kindly corrected my error.

[Pat Coleman]

Jim Lampley was there. Sitting in my locker, I watched him interview our RB (Friday afternoon before practice).

Sounds like an awesome memory.