FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[allsky7]

What conference game does your team "mark on the schedule" each year? I'm curious to know which game is the "biggest".  And don't tell me "they are all big" or "we only take one game at a time"

RMC is HSC
HSC is RMC right?
BC is HSC
E&H is BC?
Catholic?
Guilford?
W&L?

     I agree with Jacket....for H-SC it  will always be R-M. BUT......in recent years, you can rest assured that the BC game is probably circled in big black marker with asterisk beside it as well.  Heck, it's marked on my calendar so you know it is marked on theirs.  Ok, so maybe it's circled on mine because of the Stone Station appearance too!! 
     GO TIGERS.....WIN %$@#&*!!! 

[allsky7]

I guess my thoughts on the subject was, Do teams have a competitive advantage when it comes to the "importance" of a game?
Does BC have an advantage in this week's matchup because when the schedule comes out we circle the HSC game, while HSC circles the RMC game?

     I assure you that is not a factor. H-S will need a near perfect effort Saturday and IMO, need to get AND take advantage of some TO's. I guarantee the Tigers realize this year may be the best opportunity they have had to beat BC since 2003. (That game still leaves  a bitter taste in my mouth.  ) Besides, it is highly probably that to win the ODAC title, the Tigers must beat the Eagles.  THAT....is priority one!! 

[allsky7]

Snake, R-MC will always be H-SC.  This rivalry has cooled over the past 5-6 years, but at well over 100 years old, the animosity will always be there.  Although the Catholic feud is a pretty good one, due to proximity.  We have no great love for CNU either for the same reasons, but that's more of a hoops thing.  To date.

On the same topic, I'd think H-SC would always pick us, but for the same reasons listed above, I'm going to go with the Gennies as far as the Tigers are concerned, at least for now.  I know a lot of Tiger alumni and hear more muttering under the breath regarding W&L than R-M these days.

For the most part, tradition keeps the R-M/H-S rivalry alive these days.

Jacketlawyer .... Great post; good karma to you!

I'd say that Hampden-Sydney students certainly learn a rivalrous attitude toward Randolph-Macon from the day they set foot on campus (if not before).  However, I think that the sense of rivalry is different, depending upon what sport we are talking about.

Football -- While "THE GAME" at HSC is still the end-of-the-season game against RMC, with whom HSC has the longest continuing small-school rivalry in the south .... about 110 years now!! .... the Tigers have certainly developed a sense of rivalry with the Eagles over the past 6 years.  During 2 of the past 5 years, the Tigers ONLY loss has been to the Eagles.

Basketball -- There is no doubt whatsoever that Hampden-Sydney fans most want to beat RMC.  The Tigers' 30-point victory over the Yellow Jackets near the end of last season was bliss and euphoria.  The rivalry with the RMC squad is not only born of tradition -- and long-standing in length -- but it definitely intensified in a huge way during the years that both teams were nationally ranked in the Top 10 at the same time (2001-2004).  Perhaps the sweetest moment in HSC basketball history was in March 2003, when the Tigers cut down the nets in Crenshaw Gym following their victory over Wisconsin-Oshkosh in the Elite Eight ... the Yellow Jackets had been eliminated by Oshkosh the night before and did not seem to share the HSC euphoria that night. 

HSC has also developed a real sense of rivalry over the last 3-5 years with Virginia Wesleyan on the basketball court .... and there has been a definite sense of rivalry with the Roanoke Maroons for 10 years now.

I'm not as sure about rivalry in other sports, but my personal sense is that the rivalry with Washington and Lee is not that strong, except perhaps in lacrosse, golf, and tennis.

     I respectfully disagree.  I think the rivalry with W&L is second only to R-M when you consider all sports over many years. I also think this rivalry remains strong around the water cooler in the workplace. Any rivalry is going to have it's ups and downs. (eg: R-M in football in recent years) The intensity of certain rivalries like BC in football, LC in lax, VWC in hoops has no doubt increased in recent years. These are great fun but they have not survived the test of time.

[abnrgr]

Snake/ALLSKY/LAwyer
I cannot answer your thought provoking questions on getting up/motivation/rivalries but I will say this.

Rivalries consist of teams who beat each around the 50% mark. Getting beat yearly is not a rivalry

From what I have seen the last 8 years is: HSC can get up all they want but they will not beat BC. It's not in their DNA. (Hey lets circle the calandar. BC is going to stomp us. What a treat)

As it is not in GC-Q's DNA to beat HSC. Some teams just (not to beat a dead horse) have a monkey on their back.

I THINK Lees-McRae and Ferrum (during the JUCO days) has about a 101 year history which was pretty good. As a matter of fact I do not think there is a ODAC team that would have beat a Ferrum team from the 70's. Meaner than damn snakes they were

Awww.......  memory highway

[BTEXPRESS]

Abnrgr I agree with your statement that a real rivary only exsists if each team has a FAIR chance of WINNING. Teams might think a certain school is their rival but if you look at the history of games played and it is lopsided toward one school, it is not a rivaly. One school might not like another school and really want to beat that school each year, but again that does not make it a rivary.

[allsky7]

Snake/ALLSKY/LAwyer
I cannot answer your thought provoking questions on getting up/motivation/rivalries but I will say this.

Rivalries consist of teams who beat each around the 50% mark. Getting beat yearly is not a rivalry

From what I have seen the last 8 years is: HSC can get up all they want but they will not beat BC. It's not in their DNA. (Hey lets circle the calandar. BC is going to stomp us. What a treat)

As it is not in GC-Q's DNA to beat HSC. Some teams just (not to beat a dead horse) have a monkey on their back.

I THINK Lees-McRae and Ferrum (during the JUCO days) has about a 101 year history which was pretty good. As a matter of fact I do not think there is a ODAC team that would have beat a Ferrum team from the 70's. Meaner than damn snakes they were

Awww.......  memory highway

From Merriam/Webster: Rival

1 a : one of two or more striving to reach or obtain something that only one can possess b : one striving for competitive advantage

Doesn't say anything about one side possessing it more than the other having squat to do with it. I'll just go ahead and forward your post on to Marty. I'm sure the Tigers won't bother to show tomorrow. I'm mean since it IS in their DNA and all.  Too bad someone didn't share your info with Coach Clark when he came to BC. What was BC's record against the Tigers prior to 2000? 6 and 50 I believe it was. Sure am glad Stone Station will be there tomorrow so we will have something to do. 

As for Ferrum.... I attended Ferrum from 1981-1983. As a JUCO, they had numerous players that transferred on to D1 schools. They were whipping JV teams from schools like Virginia Tech. I'm sure quite a few even later became Hokies. I would hope they would be at a higher level than the ODAC.

[Snakehandler]

allsky,

I hope you notice that no one from BC has said that the HSC/BC status has been lopsided.  We at BC are well aware that most of the recent games have been decided within the last minutes of the game.

[allsky7]

allsky,

I hope you notice that no one from BC has said that the HSC/BC status has been lopsided.  We at BC are well aware that most of the recent games have been decided within the last minutes of the game.

     I hear ya snake. I'm just pumped up for this weekend. I'm trying to get my loose ends tied up here at work so I can head on down to Farmville this afternoon. Two undefeated high school football teams tonight... Tigers,Eagles & Stone Station tomorrow....kayaking on Sunday. Just doesn't get much better than that!!!  8) You are headed down tomorrow aren't you? Looks like skoal...llama & co got a beautiful day to pepper the water hazards and woods with golf balls huh? 
     

[abnrgr]

Touche' ALLSKY. 

BUT BC will beat HSC's ass in the century.

The hardest hitting game I was ever in was against Hank Norton's Panthers

[allsky7]

Touche' ALLSKY. 

BUT BC will beat HSC's ass in the century.

The hardest hitting game I was ever in was against Hank Norton's Panthers

     I'm with ya. You should have seen some of Hank's animals "hit" up at the House Restaurant on Thursday night after a few beers.  I think that is where they fine tuned their skills for Saturday. I'm a pretty big dude but I stayed out of their way.
     A former HS teammate of mine (Robbie Stanley aka Red or Oscar) was one of Hank's warriors. To this day is probably the toughest pound for pound football player I have ever seen. He would flat knock your head off. He somehow got misguided  and transferred to Randolph-Macon where he had a stellar career also. 
     Speaking of Lees-McRae....I heard that one year after a spirited contest, the Panther team had to have a police escort out of Banner Elk. I hear say that thar are some rough folk in them parts

[abnrgr]

ALLSKY
Yes that was 1975. We got into a damn fight before the game started. It was not everybody but it was alot. Then there was several 5 flag plays. The rumor (legend) was Hank was mad at the team and made them  eat out of new aluminum 55 gal cans because they played like pigs so they could eat like pigs. I did not see the cops out in town but Ferrum was always fun. It was the rumor

They would paint their faces when we came into town. Even the crowd. It was great stuff

[Oil Can]

Abnrgr I agree with your statement that a real rivary only exsists if each team has a FAIR chance of WINNING. Teams might think a certain school is their rival but if you look at the history of games played and it is lopsided toward one school, it is not a rivaly. One school might not like another school and really want to beat that school each year, but again that does not make it a rivary.

That being the case, BC should have no rivals....a century of beating almost no one and 7 years of beating most

[pakownr97]

allsky,

I hope you notice that no one from BC has said that the HSC/BC status has been lopsided.  We at BC are well aware that most of the recent games have been decided within the last minutes of the game.

Yep, what Snake said.

Plus, we also remember how abysmal BC's record against H-S was prior to Coach Clark's arrival.  Most of the games I saw or heard about were extremely lopsided in H-S C's favor.  

So no one on Bridgewater's side of the ball is going to think this game will not be a true battle on the football field.  (Please note that I did not infer football is in any way like combat.)  God bless our troops.  Literally.  [Pakownr97 stands at attention saluting the red, white and blue!]

Good luck to the Eagles and may Stone Station survive communion without me!

[Snakehandler]

You are headed down tomorrow aren't you? Looks like skoal...llama & co got a beautiful day to pepper the water hazards and woods with golf balls huh? 

I'm meeting up with the boys for dinner at the Lake, this evening.  There's Poker to be played, and beer cans to be emptied!  We'll see you bright and early in the morn.

[CNU85]

b : one striving for competitive advantage

Funny - I keyed in the definition and got this:

Bill Belichek (sp?) School of Film