FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[ODACfan1]

In response to all the fun all the posters are having with the Emory picture...thats definitey the beginning of the game when the weather was not very good...lets not forget that the team won 1 game that year so that would have had an impact on attendance.  I think i remember that game and am willing to bet that more peope came as the first quarter wore on...come to Emory this weekend and count the people...there might be a few hundred...

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

In response to all the fun all the posters are having with the Emory picture...thats definitey the beginning of the game when the weather was not very good...lets not forget that the team won 1 game that year so that would have had an impact on attendance.  I think i remember that game and am willing to bet that more peope came as the first quarter wore on...come to Emory this weekend and count the people...there might be a few hundred...

I would say no more than 50 E&H fans were tailgating before the game, so you can't use the "people hadn't gotten back from the tailgate area yet" excuse.  And I highly doubt 1,000+ people rolled into the stadium after kickoff.

Point is, regardless of if E&H was bad that year, or if it was raining, there were no more than 500 people in attendance, and they reported 1,734.  That's not being honest, period.

[Pat Coleman]

Bridgewater coach Michael Clark took credit for some of those mistakes.
"I didn't have our defensive kids prepared," he said, sitting on plastic poolside patio furniture. "I didn't have them prepared for the pace the game was played at."

Hampden-Sydney (4-1 overall, 2-0 in the ODAC) ran its spread, no-huddle offense, which left the Eagles (4-1, 0-1) scrambling to get the right people in at the right time.

"That ball was being snapped with 18 seconds on the [play] clock," Clark said. "It kept us in our base packages. There were parts of our game plan we couldn't get in because we couldn't get the substitutions in to manage it."

Is Marty doing something new this year? Or isn't it the same no huddle offense he has been running against you since back at his CUA days.

If the ball is being snapped with 18 on the play clock then that is indeed different. The Favret offense has always been no-huddle, but it's rarely been hurry-up.

[Llamaguy]

Phew, lots of playoff talk for the first week of October.

"Playoffs! Did you say playoffs? We have to win a game before we can get to the playoffs!"

- Jim Morra

As for the reporting of fans at E&H, it is just some dude down there reporting false numbers. Nothing more nothing less. The reflection is on his school so it is what it is. I do enjoy joking about it though.

[CardsWr13]

The ODAC is shaping up to be a toss up.
I feel HSC is in the driver's seat with wins over BC and GC
I was shocked to see the RMC vs WL score.
I saw RMC play CUA a couple of weeks ago.  I felt RMC defense was turnover opportunistic, even with that said they really had to bear down to stop CUA at the end of the game despite 6 or who knows how many INT's by CUA.  The only knock on CUA, and this hurts coming from a former Card, is that they do not run the ball.  You can't win just by throwing, even a former WR will admit that.  This weekend's match up with WL should be interesting.  As far as I can tell this year scores and previous matchups mean nothing.
HSC 16 vs JHU 17
HSC 54 vs. Gettysburg 7
Gettysburg 41 vs JHU 10
RMC 18 vs. JHU 9
Who knows? Could be a fun 5 weeks.

[marc]

I didn't have our defensive kids prepared," he said, sitting on plastic poolside patio furniture. "I didn't have them prepared for the pace the game was played at."

Note that Clark said Pace not Speed. Sydney can't out speed BC but they dictated pace.
As someone mentioned earlier on this board, it was one of the best game plans I've seen from Sydney. I think they will continue with the no huddle but we'll see if they keep the same pace at Emory.

Marc

[TheEHC52]

While the attendance numbers have been significantly down the past few years, traditionally they have been high.  I take both positions presented by Kid and ODACfan1.  The numbers reported that day probably were a little high, but there were many more people there than what those pictures portray.  Cut our numbers guy some slack, its hard to get an accurate count when you can't control the flow of folks between the stadium and tailgaiting field.  That's one of the big reasons for building the new Fred Selfe Center.  I do ask though, has anybody on the board been to Emory on homecoming weekend?  Honest to God, alums start bringing the RVs in on Thursday.  K-Mack, please back me up on the attendance when you played.

This weekend shouldn't stray from tradition.  With one of the ODAC's best offenses versus one of the country's best defenses, the stands will be ridiculously packed.  There may not be 15k there, but I bet the numbers will top 12k when the Wasps win 35-33.

[Pat Coleman]

I don't think the 1997 attendance is in question.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

While the attendance numbers have been significantly down the past few years, traditionally they have been high.  I take both positions presented by Kid and ODACfan1.  The numbers reported that day probably were a little high, but there were many more people there than what those pictures portray.  Cut our numbers guy some slack, its hard to get an accurate count when you can't control the flow of folks between the stadium and tailgaiting field.  That's one of the big reasons for building the new Fred Selfe Center.  I do ask though, has anybody on the board been to Emory on homecoming weekend?  Honest to God, alums start bringing the RVs in on Thursday.  K-Mack, please back me up on the attendance when you played.

This weekend shouldn't stray from tradition.  With one of the ODAC's best offenses versus one of the country's best defenses, the stands will be ridiculously packed.  There may not be 15k there, but I bet the numbers will top 12k when the Wasps win 35-33.

Hahaha. That was a really funny post. Sad thing is, you didn't mean for it to be.

Many more people than what those pictures portray? 1,200 more?

Can't control the flow of people between the stadium and tailgating field? All 50 that tailgated that day?

One of the country's best defenses? Are you serious?

And finally, you think 12,000-plus people will go to the E&H/H-SC game this weekend?

Phew. What a post, TheEHC52. What a post.

[skoaltrain]

While the attendance numbers have been significantly down the past few years, traditionally they have been high.  I take both positions presented by Kid and ODACfan1.  The numbers reported that day probably were a little high, but there were many more people there than what those pictures portray.  Cut our numbers guy some slack, its hard to get an accurate count when you can't control the flow of folks between the stadium and tailgaiting field.  That's one of the big reasons for building the new Fred Selfe Center.  I do ask though, has anybody on the board been to Emory on homecoming weekend?  Honest to God, alums start bringing the RVs in on Thursday.  K-Mack, please back me up on the attendance when you played.

This weekend shouldn't stray from tradition.  With one of the ODAC's best offenses versus one of the country's best defenses, the stands will be ridiculously packed.  There may not be 15k there, but I bet the numbers will top 12k when the Wasps win 35-33.

Hahaha. That was a really funny post. Sad thing is, you didn't mean for it to be.

Many more people than what those pictures portray? 1,200 more?

Can't control the flow of people between the stadium and tailgating field? All 50 that tailgated that day?

One of the country's best defenses? Are you serious?

And finally, you think 12,000-plus people will go to the E&H/H-SC game this weekend?

Phew. What a post, TheEHC52. What a post.

Kid!  That was rich!  12,000 to be in attendance this weekend!  I'm on the floor trying to type this reply.  Stop it!  You're killing me EHC52!!!   

[Pat Coleman]

Perhaps he was referring to published attendance, not actual attendance.

[TheEHC52]

Laugh if you want. 

1) Statistically speaking, they are one of the best defenses nationwide.  They've proven to be much more effective to date than Bridgewater, Sydney, W&L or any other team in the conference.  This is the weekend the Waspers can prove themselves to all the doubting Thomases.

2) Traditional Homecoming crowd + folks making the trip from Farmville + Monty's supporters who've driven down from Ohio for the big games the past three years + huge ODAC game = a ton of people at the game.  I know of 200 graduates from last year's class alone that'll be at the game, not including their families or friends.  That's roughly 2/3 of last year's class. 

If half of the graduates from the past 60 years show up, again not including family or friends, that's about 6500 people.  You can also add the 700 current students that'll be at the game that aren't playing.  Player's families will also account for about 325.  Those three groups account for 7525 fans alone. I think expecting 12k fans is foreseeable and not unreasonable at all. 

Since BC doesn't have a game this week, maybe Kid and Stone Station could come down to add to the figures/verify the amount of folks at the game.

I stand by what I've said and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.  I'm not afraid to admit when I am.

[hasanova]

Well, no Quaker football Oct. 6, but I'm taking advantage of this weekend to visit my youngest son at Mars Hill College just north of Asheville.  I told him I'd go to a home football game with him and he's now a senior, so I better get going!

The Lions are facing SAC-foe Carson-Newman, so I'll give you a DII comparison.

I think there's a pretty good chance I'll be at BC on Oct. 13.  It looks like roughly 200 miles and 3.5 hours.  If I get up early and get going, I should have some time to hang out with the Stone Station crew before the game!

PS Number 16 will make the trip.  

[algernon]

Last ODAC championship:
1) Washington & Lee (2006)
2) Bridgewater (2005)
3) Emory and Henry (2000)
4) Catholic (1999)
5) Guilford / Randolph-Macon (1997)
7) Hampden-Sydney (1987)

     Isn't the tiebreaker the longest without making the playoffs? How long has the ODAC had the AQ? Did the ODAC champ make the playoffs in 2000 or before? I know the Tigers have not been in the playoffs since 77.

I think the ODAC just got the AQ in 1999, when Catholic joined the league.  It might be that Guilford or RMC has gone the longest without getting to the NCAAs and would win this tie-breaker .... I don't know.

Anyway, I think there's the head-to-head tie-breaker PLUS the "reverse point system" tie-breaker (5 points for beating the 7th place team, 10 for beating the 6th place team, etc.) before you even get to anything like who has gone the longest without going to the NCAAs.  There might even be a coin toss if things get crazy enough.  Hopefully, we'll just see the Tigers beat the Wasps, Yellow Jackets, Generals, and Cardinals and we won't have to worry about such things .... 

[Llamaguy]

Last ODAC championship:
1) Washington & Lee (2006)
2) Bridgewater (2005)
3) Emory and Henry (2000)
4) Catholic (1999)
5) Guilford / Randolph-Macon (1997)
7) Hampden-Sydney (1987)

     Isn't the tiebreaker the longest without making the playoffs? How long has the ODAC had the AQ? Did the ODAC champ make the playoffs in 2000 or before? I know the Tigers have not been in the playoffs since 77.

I think the ODAC just got the AQ in 1999, when Catholic joined the league.  It might be that Guilford or RMC has gone the longest without getting to the NCAAs and would win this tie-breaker .... I don't know.

Anyway, I think there's the head-to-head tie-breaker PLUS the "reverse point system" tie-breaker (5 points for beating the 7th place team, 10 for beating the 6th place team, etc.) before you even get to anything like who has gone the longest without going to the NCAAs.  There might even be a coin toss if things get crazy enough.  Hopefully, we'll just see the Tigers beat the Wasps, Yellow Jackets, Generals, and Cardinals and we won't have to worry about such things .... 

Algernon,
All of this was discussed last year. There is no reverse, hop twice, turn around, flip a coin and you get a champion. It is head to head and when there is a 3-way tie the AQ goes to the team with the longest playoff drought. I don't think it matters if the team got the ODAC AQ or not. It is to give the team who has been left out the longest a chance to go to the playoffs.