FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[TheChucker]

TLU releases its 2024 schedule: https://tlubulldogs.com/sports/fball/2024-25/releases/20240509kntvv4.

I find it interesting that the two non-conference games are Trinity and Southwestern and none of the Baptist four are included.  Here is the complete schedule:

Sep. 7 - at Trinity
Sep. 14 - Centenary
Sep. 21 - at McMurry
Sep. 28 - at Lyon
Oct. 5 - Austin College
Oct. 19 - at Austin College
Oct. 26 - McMurry
Nov. 2 - Lyon
Nov. 9 - at Centenary
Nov. 16 - Southwestern

I am not a fan of the double round robin schedule but until Schreiner (or someone else) joins the conference in football, I guess we have to live with it. Even then, the schedule may consist of 10 conference games on a double round robin given the lack of regional opponents.

Two conferences in the same region, same division, doing a double round robin... You can't make this stuff up.

[crufootball]

TLU releases its 2024 schedule: https://tlubulldogs.com/sports/fball/2024-25/releases/20240509kntvv4.

I find it interesting that the two non-conference games are Trinity and Southwestern and none of the Baptist four are included.  Here is the complete schedule:

Sep. 7 - at Trinity
Sep. 14 - Centenary
Sep. 21 - at McMurry
Sep. 28 - at Lyon
Oct. 5 - Austin College
Oct. 19 - at Austin College
Oct. 26 - McMurry
Nov. 2 - Lyon
Nov. 9 - at Centenary
Nov. 16 - Southwestern

I am not a fan of the double round robin schedule but until Schreiner (or someone else) joins the conference in football, I guess we have to live with it. Even then, the schedule may consist of 10 conference games on a double round robin given the lack of regional opponents.

Is there any way for the Baptist 4 to not take it personal that the SCAC made the decision to do the round robin schedule as opposed to scheduling them?

[Ron Boerger]

It's what the SCAC did last time it had fewer than six teams.  For years.

Quit blaming the SCAC for the ASC's problems already.

[TLU02SA]

TLU releases its 2024 schedule: https://tlubulldogs.com/sports/fball/2024-25/releases/20240509kntvv4.

I find it interesting that the two non-conference games are Trinity and Southwestern and none of the Baptist four are included.  Here is the complete schedule:

Sep. 7 - at Trinity
Sep. 14 - Centenary
Sep. 21 - at McMurry
Sep. 28 - at Lyon
Oct. 5 - Austin College
Oct. 19 - at Austin College
Oct. 26 - McMurry
Nov. 2 - Lyon
Nov. 9 - at Centenary
Nov. 16 - Southwestern

I am not a fan of the double round robin schedule but until Schreiner (or someone else) joins the conference in football, I guess we have to live with it. Even then, the schedule may consist of 10 conference games on a double round robin given the lack of regional opponents.

Is there any way for the Baptist 4 to not take it personal that the SCAC made the decision to do the round robin schedule as opposed to scheduling them?

They could just get over it and do something/anything instead of insisting that the ASC's current position is the SCAC's and its members' fault.

[Pat Coleman]

Is there any way for the Baptist 4 to not take it personal that the SCAC made the decision to do the round robin schedule as opposed to scheduling them?

They could just get over it and do something/anything instead of insisting that the ASC's current position is the SCAC's and its members' fault.

It's not the SCAC's job to fix the ASC's problem, no.

[crufootball]

It's what the SCAC did last time it had fewer than six teams.  For years.

Quit blaming the SCAC for the ASC's problems already.

I agree with all of you that it is not the SCAC job to fix the ASC's problem, however playing round robin games in football when there are other options is not doing SCAC players any favors either.

As for what the SCAC did last time it had this few teams, the only time I can find a declared round robin was in 2016, in that year TLU played 4 ASC teams, SW played 3, AC played 1 and Trinity played 0 and most of those were against the Baptist 4. Did the Baptist 4 do that out of the generosity of their hearts, no they needed game too so both sides got something out of it.

In other years (2012-2015) when the SCAC was below 6 teams they didn't play a round robin but either way ASC teams were very common on their schedules.

I freely admit my bias in this situation but it just doesn't seem like the same level of partnership that we had when the SCAC needed it more is being extended now that the ASC needs it more. Plus even if we did play each other this year (and next) that doesn't solve the ASC long term problems but it would give both sides better games to play in the mean time.

[river2]

Multiple members of Baptist 4 are desperately seeking entry to SCAC, any animosity will quickly go out the window if offered a life raft.

Is there any way for the Baptist 4 to not take it personal that the SCAC made the decision to do the round robin schedule as opposed to scheduling them?

[Pat Coleman]

Is there any way for the Baptist 4 to not take it personal that the SCAC made the decision to do the round robin schedule as opposed to scheduling them?

Multiple members of Baptist 4 are desperately seeking entry to SCAC, any animosity will quickly go out the window if offered a life raft.

Just let us in and we'll stop taking it personally. Excellent.

[Pat Coleman]

... is not doing SCAC players any favors either.

Feel free to elaborate on this.

[river2]

Just let us in and we'll stop taking it personally. Excellent.

It's true from the ASC perspective. I don't think SCAC cares or should care about the remaining ASC schools' feelings. If they don't want to admit them for any reason that's the SCAC prerogative. I personally doubt all 4 of those schools survive until 2030 and almost certainly not at the D3 level.

[Gray Fox]

Just let us in and we'll stop taking it personally. Excellent.

It's true from the ASC perspective. I don't think SCAC cares or should care about the remaining ASC schools' feelings. If they don't want to admit them for any reason that's the SCAC prerogative. I personally doubt all 4 of those schools survive until 2030 and almost certainly not at the D3 level.

Are you saying they are not financially viable?

[crufootball]

... is not doing SCAC players any favors either.

Feel free to elaborate on this.

Does any football player want to play the same opponent twice in the same season? TLU plays Austin College back to back.

[river2]

Are you saying they are not financially viable?

Seems unlikely none of them reach dire financial straits in the near-term. Not super well versed but I imagine it's a bit of a zero-sum game for enrollment moving forward as nationwide college enrollments drop by 15+% through the rest of the decade.

Athletes make up significant proportion of enrollment and the product these student-athletes will receive is worse now with the dissolvement of the ASC.

[jekelish]

... is not doing SCAC players any favors either.

Feel free to elaborate on this.

Does any football player want to play the same opponent twice in the same season? TLU plays Austin College back to back.

Most likely just for one season, though. Maybe two. I know Schreiner has been interviewing head coaches and, from what I understand, is close to hiring someone. Despite some of the questions surrounding the program, it looks like they're moving forward full steam at this point.

[crufootball]

... is not doing SCAC players any favors either.

Feel free to elaborate on this.

Does any football player want to play the same opponent twice in the same season? TLU plays Austin College back to back.

Most likely just for one season, though. Maybe two. I know Schreiner has been interviewing head coaches and, from what I understand, is close to hiring someone. Despite some of the questions surrounding the program, it looks like they're moving forward full steam at this point.

One or two years might be all a student has left or will ever play, seems like it might be worth it to them.

And Schreiner gives them 6 schools right, worthy of a playoff spot yes but still will mean they need 5 non conference games and potentially there will be even less D3 schools in Texas to play.