FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[4thANDaLONG4]

Hey DPU 3619, haven't been on in a while, but that rant was funny.  I am tring to picture Abrahms getting into any sort of uniform and trying to block someone.

Funny

[jaycee]

Big news out of Greencastle.....DePauw Offensive Coordinator Kit Cartwright is leaving. To date the Tigers have had 4 different head coaches in 4 years, 4 different offensive coordinators in 4 years, 3 different defensive coordinators in the last 3 years and too many assistant coaching changes to mention.

Add to these problems, the current head coach is also trying to coach baseball and DePauw is getting a black eye in the national spotlight (I am sure you have heard the news already). Coaches are leaving, recruiting is suffering and what once was a competitive program is declining.

I am interested to hear your opinions on what is happening at DePauw.

[INQBScout]

how is recruiting suffering?

[DPU3619]

Good Golly.  Another new offense.

Five in five years.  Can't really go 12 months without "conducting a national search", can they?  Let's see who gets fired for shady hiring policies this time.

Nonetheless, I tend to agree with QBScout.

You say black eye in the national spotlight?  If I were a high school football player, kicking chicks out of sororities because they're ugly would probably make me MORE inclined to go there.   

[INQBScout]

You say black eye in the national spotlight?  If I were a high school football player, kicking chicks out of sororities because they're ugly would probably make me MORE inclined to go there. 

THAT is funny.....

[frank_ezelle]

how is recruiting suffering?

I don't know anything about DePauw football but it seems like the persistent turnover of coaches would make it difficult to both recruit kids and to keep your current players for the full four years.  I don't know who is to blame for that situation up there and I really don't want to open up that can of worms again, but it is a shame for the student-athletes at DePauw that they have to go through all of this turmoil. 

[frank_ezelle]

Add to these problems, the current head coach is also trying to coach baseball and DePauw is getting a black eye in the national spotlight (I am sure you have heard the news already). Coaches are leaving, recruiting is suffering and what once was a competitive program is declining.

And following up the post about it not being fair to the football players, it hardly seems fair to the baseball players or the coach that the coach is doing multiple duties.  There was a time when that worked as the same players and coaches at a small school moved from sport to sport throughout the school year but that day is long gone.  I see that the DePauw baseball team has started out 1-5 which is hardly what I would expect from their program (but maybe they have just started off with really tough teams--I didn't go too deep in my research).

[jaycee]

Inqbscout & dpu3619 there is a reason few others (maybe none) don't ask the same person to be the head coach for both football and baseball-RECRUITING. The time spent practicing, playing, traveling etc takes away from valuable time recruiting. Do you think you could work all day, practice or play a game that same day then go home and make recruiting calls till 10pm at night? Don't think you can just turn over recruiting to the assistants either because top recruits want to hear from the HFC. Top recruits require numerous visits to the high school, sporting events and home visits-this is not something assistants can do alone.

The recent campus controversy may seem funny to the incoming guys but their tuition paying parents may not agree. The parents of the next class of pretty girls at this 'Liberal' Arts campus may also take issue.  Due to academic standards and cost DPU has alienated themselves in Indiana. This controversy will just add to their problems.

[DPU3619]

Inqbscout & dpu3619 there is a reason few others (maybe none) don't ask the same person to be the head coach for both football and baseball-RECRUITING.

We already covered this last season.  It got kind of ugly.  Probably better if you just go see that conversation a few pages back.

Also:

The parents of the next class of pretty girls at this 'Liberal' Arts campus may also take issue.

That's where it really hurts us, because now Suzy Sorority can't start at DE in place of Hertel this season.

[INQBScout]

Inqbscout & dpu3619 there is a reason few others (maybe none) don't ask the same person to be the head coach for both football and baseball-RECRUITING. The time spent practicing, playing, traveling etc takes away from valuable time recruiting. Do you think you could work all day, practice or play a game that same day then go home and make recruiting calls till 10pm at night? Don't think you can just turn over recruiting to the assistants either because top recruits want to hear from the HFC. Top recruits require numerous visits to the high school, sporting events and home visits-this is not something assistants can do alone.

The recent campus controversy may seem funny to the incoming guys but their tuition paying parents may not agree. The parents of the next class of pretty girls at this 'Liberal' Arts campus may also take issue.  Due to academic standards and cost DPU has alienated themselves in Indiana. This controversy will just add to their problems.

While I would agree with you that recruiting could potentialy suffer---time will tell with the talent level being attracted---and if in fact the situation prompts kids to choose another shool. Having been around this for a bit, I can tell you your supposition that top DIII recruits require "multiple" school, home and game visitsfrom the HC is simply not true.

 

[jaycee]

Inqbscout- My comments come from a wealth of experience and I respectfully disagree. The best D3 recruiters treat the top D3 kids like they are D1 prospects......that means going the extra mile......you reap what you sow. If you recruit like they are all the same you will get average players and have an average program... In my opinion.

[DPU3619]

My comments come from a wealth of experience

Well, looks like we got ourselves a ringer.

[depauwtigers1]

The top recruits will warrant major attention from the HFC and numerous assistants.  We will have an answere in late April to this discussion.  With KC leaving the boat will get rocked significantly.  DPU staff is down 2 coaches to battle for recruits in the "money down" recruiting period.
Do not think that the Sorority issue will not hurt the battle.  Those parents that finance their sons education will not take the situation jokingly.  As in sales, "perception is reality."

[Snakehandler]

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[DPU3619]

As in sales, "perception is reality."

Apparently, also as in your day-to-day life.