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[INQBScout]

What do you think the plan is for Spring practice?  Who will be in charge of the offense this Spring and what will the Spring agenda be for the offense.

This is what the Mt. Union's, Whitewaters, Wesley's, and Wabash's are doing.

Is this the same Wabash that can't have a freaking football in "spring practice"?
Shake yourself, youngster...don't embarrass yourself......

[depauwtigers1]

inqbscout,

  You may be referring to wabash's off - season conditioning cycle.  They do a good job of using the off season to develop strength and movement fundamentals.  Unlike the program to the South.

  A few years ago, the NCAA permitted D3 programs to set a Spring football period. It is simialr to D1/D2 allowances except involves no pads or helments.  Teams can still benefit from scheme install and individual, unit, and team drills.

  So, I am not sure what you mena by shake yourself & such.

  It is possible the NCAA may have changed these rules, but I doubt it.

What do you think the plan is for Spring practice?  Who will be in charge of the offense this Spring and what will the Spring agenda be for the offense.

Is this the same Wabash that can't have a freaking football in "spring practice"?
Shake yourself, youngster...don't embarrass yourself......

[INQBScout]

It is possible the NCAA may have changed these rules, but I doubt it.

You are correct...I think schools can have 15 "practices". I guess I was taking exception to the suggestion that Wabash's off season routine is so far superior to schools like DePauw. I'm sure it is very good---I would expect nothing less from  Coach Creighton. But knowing kids who've gone to both schools I guess I've never heard that. Just my two cents worth (maybe not that much)...

[TigerDad]

Took me about an hour to find it, but here are the NCAA Division III rules for "Out-of-Season" football practices (from the NCAA Division III manual ... page 152 of the PDF below)
http://www.ncaa.org/library/membership/division_iii_manual/2006-07/2006-07_d3_manual.pdf
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17.11.6 Out-of-Season Athletically Related Activities. Student-athletes and members of the coaching staff shall not engage in athletically related activities outside the playing season per Bylaw 17.02.1.1.
(Revised: 1/14/02, effective 8/1/02, 10/22/03, 1/12/04 effective 8/1/04, 8/5/04, 1/10/05)

17.11.6.1 Exception. An institution is permitted to conduct conditioning and strength training sessions and limited skill instruction during a consecutive five week period outside the playing season. During this five week period, the institution may conduct athletically related activity on a maximum of 16 days with no more than four days of athletically related activity in any one week. Any athletically related activity (per Bylaw 17.02.1.1) shall constitute the use of a day. Skill instruction during this period shall be limited to passing, catching and kicking related drills. Such instruction may include offensive and defensive alignments, but may not involve contact. Except for footballs, the use of helmets, pads, blocking sleds or any other form of sport-related equipment is prohibited. No missed class time is permitted for these sessions. (Adopted: 1/10/05, Revised: 1/9/06)
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NOTE: I believe last year (2006) was the first year that Division III allowed the use of footballs during off-season (spring) football.  Good thing that rule was changed, eh? 

Less than six monthes 'til kickoff ...

[DPU3619]

When I made a joke about putting this at the bottom of my posts:

Yet another sign of mismanagment of DePauw football by Bob Bottoms, James Lincoln, Page Cotton, the entire DePauw administration, and especially Matt Walker for letting another good coach leave.  This has big ramifications on recruiting because Matt Walker can't keep coaches on staff.  He's a horribly unqualified head coach who will take the program into a nosedive and make no longer a top-tier Division III program in five years or less.

I was referring to your continuing urge to do this over and over:

The "horse will be put to rest" when some heads roll in that "high on the hill" administration.  Two of those people underestimate the perseverance and individual qualities of those that have been knicked by their juvenille decisions.
People that get caught in the crossfire, don't take it personal, its just business!

See what I'm talking about?  You've made your point about DePauw's mismanagement in the administration.  You've made your point about your disdain for the current head coach and a good portion of his assistants.

Everybody's read them.  A lot.  We've got it.  We understand.  You've shoved it down our throats. 

I think you are confusing my disagreement with the idea that you'll sway me and other DPU posters here by putting your keyboard on repeat.

[Pat Coleman]

Those are the NCAA rules. The NCAC's rule is more restrictive.

[depauwtigers1]

3619,

  I really do not have an opinion on the coaches.  I will have an opinion on them if they were part of the e-mail scandal, but we will find out on that matter in the near future.
  I take issue with 2 people in the administrative sector.  They made our life miserable when I was there.  While we tried desperately to improve our program by hiring talented coaches that fit our system, we were met with great opposition from certain individuals.  Truly a shame, that place has untapped potential to turn into national program.
  Thats all there is.  I could care less about the HC and his mission. 

[INQBScout]

Took me about an hour to find it, but here are the NCAA Division III rules for "Out-of-Season" football practices (from the NCAA Division III manual ... page 152 of the PDF below)
http://www.ncaa.org/library/membership/division_iii_manual/2006-07/2006-07_d3_manual.pdf

Thanks Tiger Dad....can't understand why some (NCAC) would want to try to undermine such a harmless attempt to give programs a chance for some extra work...

On another topic---who will be lining up behind center for Trinity this season?

[Gray Fox]

Any golfer would enjoy this trip. 8)

http://www.clusports.com/news/3526/

[TigerDad]

On another topic---who will be lining up behind center for Trinity this season?

InQBScout ... six months out it's a bit premature, but the natural choice would be last year's starter, Barmore, a senior next fall.  Blake had a very good year going until a broken leg finished his season. Wilson saw some action and did admirably when given the chance ... he will be a junior in the fall.  A couple first-years did well in JV action, but are untested as yet.  If all injured starters recover +100% as hoped, Trinity should be in for a strong showing on both sides of the ball in 2007.  Spring workouts begin today so hopefully we'll get some early reports here in a week or two.

[INQBScout]

six months out it's a bit premature, but the natural choice would be last year's starter, Barmore, a senior next fall.  Blake had a very good year going until a broken leg finished his season. Wilson saw some action and did admirably when given the chance ... he will be a junior in the fall.  A couple first-years did well in JV action, but are untested as yet.  If all injured starters recover +100% as hoped, Trinity should be in for a strong showing on both sides of the ball in 2007.  Spring workouts begin today so hopefully we'll get some early reports here in a week or two.

Thanks Tiger Dad---if I remember, Barmore has some nice size---6-3 or 6-4? Sounds like the Tigers will field another solid club this fall...

[historymajor]

TigerDad... I was 'on campus' yesterday to watch baseball and saw the footballers take the field for their first spring practice.  Didn't watch any of it, but spoke to the coaches after...  all seemed cautiously enthusiastic.  I will be back Wed for a baseball DH, and try to give you a report.  How's the knee rehabbing?

[jaycee]

Kit Cartwright has been gone for 2 weeks and they have known for 3 weeks. Still no job posting. The DPU administration could cost the football team yet ANOTHER spring. Tick...Tick....Tick...Tick...Tick...Tick...Tick...Tick....Tick...Tick...Tick...

[DPU3619]

Well which way do you want it? 

Everybody was so pissed off at the administration for hiring the baseball coach immediately after Rogers got canned.  Now everybody's pissed off that they didn't hire some joker out of the woodwork right after Cartwright leaves. 

You can't have it both ways.  Either you've got to find somebody you want, or hire somebody you don't.  Idiots.  I swear.

[4thANDaLONG4]

Hey 3619,

Very valid point, hopefully they get a long term solution into help them out, no need rushing and making a strange situation even worse.  Oh well, another day in paradise, let's go Little Giants.