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Ralph Turner

Quote from: DPU3619 on April 26, 2007, 06:26:09 PM
In all seriousness...

I know this is only a feasibility study, and we're still a long way off from anything close to football at Hendrix, but I wouldn't be a big fan of it. 

If you throw another team on the conference schedule, every team would only play one non-conference game.  Doesn't that make it increasingly hard to schedule quality non-conf opponents?  DPU obv. has Wabash at the end, which if you beat those guys, it goes a long way to helping the case for a Pool C, but what does a Millsaps or a Trinity do if they don't win the conference and are looking to get a Pool C?  It's already bad enough that each team is only playing two non-conf teams.

Millsaps can play Miss College.  Austin College can play McMurry or ETBU or anyone.  Trinity can play TLU. 

Hendrix must be having a very big budget crunch, especially with the Walton (Academic) Scholarships that have been going to Fayetteville.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: TU2698 on April 25, 2007, 01:50:07 PM

Conversely, the football stadium was better pre-Calgaard.  Bonzo, do you have any new word on that situation?  Maybe it will help keep Coach Mohr around. 

Sorry, no.  I'm pretty out of the loop these days.   

I remember the old EM Stevens, even with busloads of AF trainees on a six-hour pass ppl still rattled around in it. 

Josh Bowerman

Quote from: DPU3619 on April 26, 2007, 06:26:09 PM
In all seriousness...If you throw another team on the conference schedule, every team would only play one non-conference game.  Doesn't that make it increasingly hard to schedule quality non-conf opponents?   It's already bad enough that each team is only playing two non-conf teams.

Welcome to what the ASC has dealt with for a long time, now, DPU3619!
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PA_wesleyfan

Ralph

Looks like Wesley picked up George Mason U. as their tenth game... The web site has been updated with that game Nov. 3
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DPU3619

Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 26, 2007, 09:10:14 PM
Millsaps can play Miss College.  Austin College can play McMurry or ETBU or anyone.  Trinity can play TLU. 

The only critique I have of your listing is that only one of those opponents finished .500 or better in 2006.  I am aware that is currently who is on the schedule for TU, Millsaps, and Austin teams. 

The issue I had was not with simply scheduling problems, it was scheduling quality opponents.  While those teams fill the schedule, it doesn't do a lot to help a SCAC team that does not win the championship in receiving a Pool C bid.  For example, can a Millsaps team that went 9-1 and lost to just Trinity hope to get a Pool C when the only non-conf win they have is 5-5 Mississippi College?  Add into this hypothetical that DePauw, Centre, and Rhodes were having a down year and those weren't that impressive of wins.  Is that a strong enough case?  There were 1 loss teams left out last season.

I just worry that adding a 9th conference game would weaken the schedule to the point that a team from another region would be awarded a Pool C and be shipped southward.

Pat Coleman

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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: DPU3619 on April 27, 2007, 06:49:33 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 26, 2007, 09:10:14 PM
Millsaps can play Miss College.  Austin College can play McMurry or ETBU or anyone.  Trinity can play TLU. 

The only critique I have of your listing is that only one of those opponents finished .500 or better in 2006.  I am aware that is currently who is on the schedule for TU, Millsaps, and Austin teams. 

The issue I had was not with simply scheduling problems, it was scheduling quality opponents.  While those teams fill the schedule, it doesn't do a lot to help a SCAC team that does not win the championship in receiving a Pool C bid.  For example, can a Millsaps team that went 9-1 and lost to just Trinity hope to get a Pool C when the only non-conf win they have is 5-5 Mississippi College?  Add into this hypothetical that DePauw, Centre, and Rhodes were having a down year and those weren't that impressive of wins.  Is that a strong enough case?  There were 1 loss teams left out last season.

I just worry that adding a 9th conference game would weaken the schedule to the point that a team from another region would be awarded a Pool C and be shipped southward.

UMHB and HSU would probably rather play Trinity and Millsaps than Willamette,/UW-Whitewater/CNU and  UW-Stevens Point/Linfield/UW-Stout. :)

PA_wesleyfan

Pat..
I was wondering about that myself. I thought maybe they were competeing on 1AA level this year.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 29, 2007, 10:30:57 PM
Oof.

George Mason is a club team.  :-\
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

frank_ezelle

I hear that Chris Jackson of Millsaps signed a free agent contract with Pittsburgh this morning.  That's the extent of my information--a newspaper from his hometown called me asking for a few photos that they could use in a story.

Any word on other SCAC players who might get a shot with a pro team?
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Pat Coleman

Frank,

I got a tip on that overnight and confirmation this morning, but that's all I know as well. I don't even know for sure if it's a contract or a tryout/minicamp invite.
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@d3jason

Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on April 29, 2007, 11:32:59 PM
Pat..
I was wondering about that myself. I thought maybe they were competeing on 1AA level this year.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 29, 2007, 10:30:57 PM
Oof.

George Mason is a club team.  :-\

Wesley is still looking for game 10, but will use the Mason as a contest if it doesn't materialize. I believe that Bridgewater and College of New Jersey have done this during the past few years.

Pat Coleman

Yes, and it counted just as little for them.
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@d3jason

Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2007, 02:08:12 PM
Yes, and it counted just as little for them.

Better to have 10 games for your students than 9.

Pat Coleman

That is basically the one benefit, yes. Good experience for your second string.
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