FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Ron Boerger]

No, no.  That's the C-factor alright.  There isn't anyone else of significance that might be coming to Trinity.  No doubt about it, but given Coach Mohr's penchant for loyalty,  Blake is still going to start I'm sure so I doubt we'll see him.  Hopefully, Chris is bringing some of his friends with him.  Some big, linemen type guys who are just as fast.  Either way, he might not be any good at all.  I think I'll just hope that the 18 returning starters are good enough to get the job done.  This year's going to be tough. 

So being as Blake is a senior and this kid is a sophmore (or frosh? He redshirted at D1 but there is no redshirting in D3 ... ) any possibility of having him use that speed at WR while Blake runs the offense?  More than anything else what has been missing in recent years are receivers with speed. 

[frank_ezelle]

I was trying to imagine what it would be like if I was one of the returning key players for Millsaps, someone like Tyson Roy or Juan Joseph, and all I was reading about was how a redshirt freshman was coming in to save the program. 

And if Millsaps had an extremely talented player coming in this season (such as Chris Jackson in 2006), I wonder if it would be doing that player a disservice to hype them up as a superstar before they had even played a snap at Millsaps?

Just wondering. 

[Pat Coleman]

Despite the best efforts of the MIAC to legislate otherwise, Division III honors redshirts from other divisions.

[Ron Boerger]

I was trying to imagine what it would be like if I was one of the returning key players for Millsaps, someone like Tyson Roy or Juan Joseph, and all I was reading about was how a redshirt freshman was coming in to save the program. 

And if Millsaps had an extremely talented player coming in this season (such as Chris Jackson in 2006), I wonder if it would be doing that player a disservice to hype them up as a superstar before they had even played a snap at Millsaps?

Just wondering. 

Well, since the players know a hell of a lot more about what's going on than a few random posters on a message board, I'm not terribly concerned about it and neither are they most likely.

And as for talking about it, give me a break, Frank, it's the offseason.  What would you like us to do?    I've seen one guy "hyping" the kid and several wondering how/if he'll fit in. 

[Pat Coleman]

Agreed -- I don't think it's our role to protect players from something they might not want to read.

I am sure Tyson Roy is far more worried about getting his own eligibility from the NCAA than what fans are posting.

[frank_ezelle]

My point was simply that it is a little early to start labeling one player as the "C-factor" and using his presence as a key factor in why Trinity will win the SCAC next season.  It doesn't seem like something that is really helpful to the kid or the team, but that's just my opinion and I've been wrong many times in the past.

On another subject, I was trying to find news on Chris Jackson and the Pittsburgh Steelers.  Since I didn't want to sign up for a subscription to a Pittsburgh sports service, I only found links that give a tease about how he is doing.  At least he was still on the team as of July 4th and he must be impressing some people as a kickoff returner.  Here are two links:

http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=68&p=2&c=656441&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fsteelers.scout.com%2f2%2f656441.html

http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=68&p=2&c=648996&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fsteelers.scout.com%2f2%2f648996.html

[TigerDad]

Frank ... we understand your comments.  The Trinity "C-factor" comments are a bit of an inside joke among parents and fans who do know some of the incoming and returning players.  We did not mean to offend or imply domination or importance at this early stage.  We're just holding back a little out of respect for the players involved.  It's a team effort for sure.  Speaking for myself, I prefer to observe & comment on actual accomplishments once the season kicks off.  I'm not superstitious ... I simply prefer my crow eaten by others. 

Since this is a public message board, it seems inappropriate to name names in pre-season comments about who is going to be a "factor" for any DIII team, especially an incoming freshman or transfer.  Clearly the lists of expected players in the spring and the actual rosters on opening day are never the same ... since no athletic scholarships are involved, these student-athletes may change their choice of school or sport at will with little financial impact.  In recent years, Trinity has received the benefit of a few transfers from D1 & D2 programs and I for one hope that continues to add to the talent pool.

Those of us who cheer for Trinity are in a new position this season ... reGAIN rather than reTAIN.  We're hoping for great results and a championship in 2007 just like you are for your Majors.  No matter what we write, we know that will be decided between the lines.  The SCAC has gotten a bit more competitive & interesting than in seasons of old ... I think that's a good thing.

Thanks for your observations and news about Millsaps ... we'll do our best to provide the same about Trinity this season.

[Pat Coleman]

Since this is a public message board, it seems inappropriate to name names in pre-season comments about who is going to be a "factor" for any DIII team, especially an incoming freshman or transfer.

I don't know why that would be. Seems perfectly appropriate to me. Unless you're that player trying to talk yourself up.

[gogetit9]

Marks gets my vote

[TigerDad]

TU's returning senior QB is Blake Barmore ... 

[gogetit9]

I'm very sorry for the typing slip....I was not able to edit the poll after a vote was submitted 

[evacuee]

So being as Blake is a senior and this kid is a sophmore (or frosh? He redshirted at D1 but there is no redshirting in D3 ... )

Wasn't Roy Hampton a redshirt?  I thought people don't typically redshirt at d3 simply because they don't expect to play football any longer than they might be in school.  Speaking of which, did Chris Baer get a medical redshirt for last year?

[Pat Coleman]

Routine redshirting was eliminated starting in 2004. And Division III honors the Division I/II/NAIA redshirt, unless you're going to the MIAC, in which case you're screwed.

[frank_ezelle]

The last time I made a post it somewhat killed the board for a few days and it dropped my karma a few notches so I'll try to be very non-controversial and not make any waves.

Last year Juan Joseph averaged 250 yards of total offense per game.  I voted for Juan in the above poll because I expected a number closer to 300 ypg this year (if he stays healthy) for three reasons:
1)  It's his second year in the offense and his second year as a starter which should help the numbers.
2)  While the numbers might not reflect it, I thought Juan looked a little tired and not as sharp during the last part of the season.  I'm hoping that he is a stronger, more durable player this season.
3)  I think Millsaps will simply be a better team which should improve the numbers.  A stronger defense gives the offense more chances and there's no reason to think that the offense will back off from the 34 passes per game average from last year. 

In a related topic, Pat hinted earlier that there may be a question about Tyson Roy's eligibility this season.  I bring this up because Tyson is in the poll question above and because some people may have assumed after reading Pat's post that Tyson had some problems of an academic nature.  There is a question about his eligibility and it centers around his one year at Army (I think that was the school) prior to coming to Millsaps.

[Ralph Turner]

The last time I made a post it somewhat killed the board for a few days and it dropped my karma a few notches so I'll try to be very non-controversial and not make any waves.

Last year Juan Joseph averaged 250 yards of total offense per game.  I voted for Juan in the above poll because I expected a number closer to 300 ypg this year (if he stays healthy) for three reasons:
1)  It's his second year in the offense and his second year as a starter which should help the numbers.
2)  While the numbers might not reflect it, I thought Juan looked a little tired and not as sharp during the last part of the season.  I'm hoping that he is a stronger, more durable player this season.
3)  I think Millsaps will simply be a better team which should improve the numbers.  A stronger defense gives the offense more chances and there's no reason to think that the offense will back off from the 34 passes per game average from last year. 

In a related topic, Pat hinted earlier that there may be a question about Tyson Roy's eligibility this season.  I bring this up because Tyson is in the poll question above and because some people may have assumed after reading Pat's post that Tyson had some problems of an academic nature.  There is a question about his eligibility and it centers around his one year at Army (I think that was the school) prior to coming to Millsaps.

+1 Frank.

I strongly disagree with the concept of smiting a poster who makes an effective argument about a player, a game, a ranking, etc.

Rather, do your own research and post it or just respectfully disagree.  I think that smites should be saved for really asinine remarks and other "un-professional" behaviors.  We have too many good posters on the SCAC board, not to have lively conversations going.

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