FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

I guess in the D3 Blog world, if you believe,(or don't believe it), then it must be true.

Well, until there's a close game with evidence to sway me in the other direction, that's where my personal vote lies. Can't say why the other 24 voters vote the way they do, but  I find it an interesting referendum that none of the eight coaches on the panel voted for Millsaps.

Listen, we also know that Millsaps is at DePauw this weekend. DePauw hasn't played a Hardin-Simmons-level schedule to open the season by any stretch but is 3-0. If Millsaps can do well on that trip that will surely turn some votes around. But Mississippi College isn't getting a ton of votes either, so that's providing a bit of a ceiling right now for Millsaps.

[oldmoose]

Birmingham Southern defeated the LaGrange JV today, 37-7. 

The Panthers are 2-0 against JV teams! Not bad for a team that is 87% freshmen and has only existed for 43 days.

[Pat Coleman]

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[Ron Boerger]

I had heard about hendrix thinking about football but not SW, any updates on their status. As for emory, they would  have a great program if they put some $ into it but you'll probably see pepsi machines on their campus before varisty football players. I would think the Scac would want either 9 football programs or 12, so they could have a champ game but would frown any numbers in between.

From what I have heard over the years there will not be any interest in FB at Southwestern until either a new administration comes in that really wants it or alumnus BJ "Red" McCombs donates millions to create a program (and he could; was named to the Forbes 400 last week). 

Oglethorpe is unlikely to start football due to the high cost of running a SCAC program.   They are also by far the school with the smallest endowment in the conference.

There don't seem to be any updates at the Hendrix web site since the initial announcement that a study would take place.    However, sentiment on-campus seems against it propelled by opinions such as the following, found on a blog at the site:


"The way I see it, any person in their right mind would say "no" to an increase in rape, so we should say "no" to bringing football to Hendrix."


Emory, of course, is in a whole different orbit and I have my doubts that the other SCAC members would really want to play in the pond with them. 

The D3/D4 split that is coming around the bend could also have major implications for the SCAC.  If I remember from the studies Ralph Turner pointed us to, the SCAC is a "mixed" conference unlike most others that were predominately D3 or D4. 

[oldmoose]

"The way I see it, any person in their right mind would say "no" to an increase in rape, so we should say "no" to bringing football to Hendrix."

"A school without football is in danger of deteriorating into a medieval study hall."

Frank Leahy / Notre Dame

[AF4]

Oldmoose

i noticed u said that bsc was 2-0 against jv's... is this jv vs others jv or is it thier varsity (made up of course of ~87% freshmen) against others jv ?

just curious, when Huntington JV played Lagrange JV  the coaches for Huntingdon (possibly Lagrange also ... i just wasn't paying attention to them as closely) pulled a 'Dubose' ( a new term added to the football lexicon indicating a coach who plays all players in a seemingly important game, in an attempt to evaluate his players, and apparently without regard to the outcome of the game) 

although winning was important... they had played all the kids even  prior to taking the lead...and continued to do so... more like a practice in order to evaluate the kids. Huntingdon won, but  each players performance was more important... in oher words they applied   a 'Dubose'
and of course there were several frehmen ( who r 2nd to 3rd team varsity) which didn't suit up

anyway... good luck rest of the season...and keep the faith

[Ron Boerger]

Oldmoose,

Yeah, but let's not curse either Cush or I with that quote from some poor little thing at Hendrix.  I am certain neither of us agree with that opinion. 

[oldmoose]

Oldmoose

i noticed u said that bsc was 2-0 against jv's... is this jv vs others jv or is it thier varsity (made up of course of ~87% freshmen) against others jv ?

just curious, when Huntington JV played Lagrange JV  the coaches for Huntingdon (possibly Lagrange also ... i just wasn't paying attention to them as closely) pulled a 'Dubose' ( a new term added to the football lexicon indicating a coach who plays all players in a seemingly important game, in an attempt to evaluate his players, and apparently without regard to the outcome of the game) 

although winning was important... they had played all the kids even  prior to taking the lead...and continued to do so... more like a practice in order to evaluate the kids. Huntingdon won, but  each players performance was more important... in oher words they applied   a 'Dubose'
and of course there were several frehmen ( who r 2nd to 3rd team varsity) which didn't suit up

anyway... good luck rest of the season...and keep the faith

It's BSC's varsity.  With the varsity being 87% freshman, there is no need for a JV yet.  (I wonder when that will happen.)  Thanks for the well wishes.  We will need a lot of luck and faith at Trinity on Saturday!

[AF4]

Oldmoose

thanks ...yall will do well, b'ham is rich recruiting ground... several of our senior/junior players r from oak mtn, hoover, shades valley, etc

this yrs recruiting class had very few b'ham kids and was more florida, lower alabama, and UCLA (as u no upper corner of lower alabama- lee chambers russell tallapoosa montgomery lowndes autauga counties)

good luck this yr... i pull for all  the bama teams (along with UGA, Va Tech, and Texas A&M).... Jones is a fine coach

keep the faith

[Just_that_kid]

With all this talk about SCAC expansion, I'm curious why Huntingdon hasn't been brought up more. Of all the schools that I know of, they seemed to want into the SCAC and definately made a case for it in the past few seasons.

Side note: Millsaps' JV beat Mississippi College's JV 21-0 . I wasn't there, but that's what was reported to me.

[Jawbreaker]

Side note: Millsaps' JV beat Mississippi College's JV 21-0 . I wasn't there, but that's what was reported to me.

Millsaps JV requited themselves agains the MS College JV (instead of the MC 1st string  ) 17 - 0. 

[Pat Coleman]

With all this talk about SCAC expansion, I'm curious why Huntingdon hasn't been brought up more. Of all the schools that I know of, they seemed to want into the SCAC and definately made a case for it in the past few seasons.

Such decisions are made on the institutional level and they rarely involve solely football, especially for a conference that already has an automatic bid.

[Tex]

I read some comments a page back about Milsaps being held to a higher standard...  I'm not that concerned about how they lost that game.  Seems an odd way to coach, but hey, maybe the reason they're being held to a high standard is that they won the conference last year?  And, to a lesser degree, because they have a "big name" coach? 

[DPU3619]

I read some comments a page back about Milsaps being held to a higher standard...  I'm not that concerned about how they lost that game.  Seems an odd way to coach, but hey, maybe the reason they're being held to a high standard is that they won the conference last year?  And, to a lesser degree, because they have a "big name" coach? 

I don't necessarily think I hold them to a higher standard. I think I'll be holding them to a different standard.  Ron said higher standard.  Pat said different standard and I agree with that term. When you're talking about how you're going to rank the one loss teams (and probably Hardin-Simmons) nationally, I'm of the opinion that more credit should go to some other team that actually cared enough about the game to leave their starters in, as opposed to the team that sat down their entire (great) first string for the second half and crossed their fingers it was still good enough. 

Maybe that's the wrong way to look at the situation.  And I suppose it could be.  Guess I'm not exactly sure what the right answer is.  I bet a lot of Millsaps fans on this board don't agree with it, though.

[Just_that_kid]

Pat: Forgive my solely football minded ways. With a little help, I understand what you're saying.

DPU: Again, why does everyone assume that Millsaps crossed its' fingers? Can a team not have faith in its' depth?

I think Millsaps and its' fans are worried about Depauw, then the rest of the SCAC. Rankings and polls don't really matter at this point. If you continue to win, then things will work themselves out. (And I'm sure that automatic bid is a real big driving force.)