FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[KentATM]

Congrats to Trinity.  They brought a pretty good crowd and the few of them that I talked to were pretty nice (they were all older adults).  They jumped on AC early and never let us in it.  Of course we made too many silly mistakes to really contend anyway.  There were also some curious coaching decisions like going for it on 4th at the 50 on our first possession while punting from about the Trinity 35 when we were down 21 but again, we weren't going to win w/the turnovers and the blown coverages.

Ahh well, hopefully next year we can cut down on all the mistakes and come out with a winning season.

[Tex]

9-1 will get a 2nd SCAC bid.  We just need to have the runner-up try that one year!

Ron, I'm kinda new to D-3 but is that accurate in years past?  A one-loss, 2nd place team normally gets in?  Would that hold true in the ASC as well? 

Recent history shows that Trinity missed out of last years playoffs due to an early season loss to Texas Lutheran if your point is well taken.  In most leagues I'm familiar with (from TX high school football on up), it's all about league play.  Non-league is normally not counted against you. 

So, are there just *that many* D-3 teams such that 32 teams have only one loss?  I know that I'd not want to try and manage a 64 team tournament for football.  32 seems like a big logistic challenge as it is. 

[Ron Boerger]

90% of the time a 9-1 record will get you in.  I can't remember a time (since the playoffs were expanded to 32 teams) when the SCAC runner-up was 9-1.   The exception would be if the non-conference teams you played were really bad impacting your OWP/OOWP.   

When the ASC got two teams in the runner up was 9-1. 

[DPU3619]

So, are there just *that many* D-3 teams such that 32 teams have only one loss?  I know that I'd not want to try and manage a 64 team tournament for football.  32 seems like a big logistic challenge as it is. 

What Ron said, plus this:

Concerning earning a Pool C Bid, you aren't looking for 32 teams with one loss.  You're looking for 7 teams with one loss who didn't win their conference.  Those are fairly sparse.

EDIT: So much so that you see 2 loss teams like Capital, Hobart, and UW-Eau Claire get in.  Yes, Whitworth got left out with technically only one in region loss, but that's fairly rare.

[TigerDad]

Carl ... thanks very much for your kind words.  Yes, I am.

All you Trinity fans need to head on over to the ASC topic on this board:
  http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=3803.0

UMH-B fans have already advanced the Crusaders several games deep into the playoffs ... I think they're making hotel reservations in Salem.  That's just the way we want them to think this week!

GO TIGERS ... BEAT THAT CRU.
(1 Sam 17)

[k-hud]

I'm not really sure where you're getting that from, TigerDad, seeing as how virtually all comments regarding UMHB in the last several pages of the ASC board are either questions/comments about the #4 seed or commentary on last week's HPU game and how certain things UMHB did in that game might affect Trinity's scouting report.

One comment about the 2004 team being the "Road Dogs," and saying that IF the team makes a run again this year they will have to do the same, doesn't translate at all to "they're making hotel reservations in Salem." 

[crufootball]

Hello SCAC fans, I am not sure if any of you would count on this but accoring to the local newspaper the UMHB-Trinity game will not be on the radio. I am sure most of you who are Trinity fans would have been listening online or be there in person, but just wanted to make sure no one got dissapointed on Saturday. I hope all of those making the trip have safe travels.
http://www.temple-telegram.com/story/2007/11/13/44932

[Ron Boerger]

The article says that it will not be on broadcast radio but will be available on UMHB's web site.  The Trinity guys will probably do their broadcast but I doubt they'll be able to have the video feed due to the lack of internet capability at the Belton stadium.  Historymajor, what's the plan?

[evacuee]

Hey kid,

I think everyone liked the idea of dropping this subject.  I just feel like I must advise you to stop using the term "asterisk."

[etg]

(El Tea Gray---re: Analysis of TU vs. UMHB playoff game)

Congrats to Carl Menist on his "to-the-point analysis" (see Reply #4085 above) of the UMHB vs. MC football game. I must say that my analysis of that game and for the game this Saturday agrees with every word; and yes the Cru is "beatable". Can it be done? Yes. Will it be done?      If so, Carl's battle plan seems right on target. Tigers take note and Go, Go, Go; we really need this one.

                                                                                 

[crufootball]

I spoke too soon aparently the game was moved to another radio station 91.3 FM.

[golden_dome]

Just to spark conversation about how Trinity matches up with UMHB and maybe learn a little more about Trinity football, here are a few thoughts from an ASC poster.

Obviously, the #1 thing Trinity has to do to play with UMHB is not turn the ball over. UMHB has forced 41 turnovers (25 int's) and committed just 21. It's not that they physically intimidate opponents as much as they are capable physically of applying so much pressure that they force you into mistakes.

I would agree with much of Carl's post concerning the MS College/UMHB game although I probably have more respect for UMHB's athletes which are just better, and more importantly, deeper than MS College, Trinity or Millsaps at this point in my opinion. Carl probably would not say this so it doesn't sound like sour grapes, but I thought Millsaps would be a little better matchup against the Cru with their shorter, quicker passing game. 

I think Carl's right that the Choctaws could have played with them with zero turnovers, but we had six. MS College did pass for 523 yards, but they forced us into so many turnovers it didn't matter. Trailing 28-17 with the ball deep in UMHB territory, MC began a string of five consecutive turnovers that resulted in five quick touchdowns that made the score 62-17.

Although I have not seen Trinity play, their stats are very similiar to MS College with maybe a more vertical passing game than Millsaps. But I noticed they have allowed 25 sacks this season, ten more than the Majors and four more than MS College. I would like to know what Trinity is usually known for offensively and defensively and how they will match up athletically. 

On a side note, I would not count on UMHB trying any experimenting with the passing game early. Against UWW they started the game 2-6 with two int's, one in which was returned 60 yards to make the score 21-0. I don't think Whitewater was that much better than UMHB, but the early passing was a little uncharacteristic of The Cru and put them in an unfamiliar situation behind by so many points.

[historymajor]

Thanks Bonzo for your 'lead-in'.  We have been trying to get any info available about the facilillities at Belton. 

We ARE still planning a full audio/video streaming. 

https://secure.stretchinternet.com/wlive.php?user=trinity&id=29021

IMPORTANT NOTE:

In order to view the videocasts, your computer must have
Apple's FREE QuickTime 7 Viewer properly installed.  We can't
help you with that software installation, but here's a link that
you can use to download it from Apple.com and install it:

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/standalone.html

NOTE: Unless you want to install iTunes to manage ALL your music
and videos, be sure to select the TOP VERSION (WITHOUT iTunes!)


Ugh!!!!  So far we have been told by SID John Wallin..."There is a phone line, but I would think that is less than ideal. We have not been able to get Belton ISD to install data ports. It was like pulling teeth to get them to add extra phone lines a couple of years ago." 

So, we will, at a minimum, be bringing the webcast via audio. 

LIVE WEBCAST INFO:

HI SPEED: http://stream.krtu.org:9000/krtu-sports-ch1-96kb.m3u
LO SPEED: http://stream.krtu.org:9000/krtu_sports-ch1-36kb.m3u

We have not given up hope of doing the full streaming video.  We are contacting a local internet vendor in hopes of securing wired, or high-bandwidth wireless access. 

If that doesn't work we can try wireless broadband through AT&T or Verizon (not usually high enough band width).

Or as a very last resort, we will tape delay it for full video/audio rebroadcast later....

Whew, I hate to think how much I've got to do between now and then...

Hey, we 'got' the "Miracle in Mississippi" to ESPN in time for SportCenter 10/27/07!!!

I forgot to add a special thanks to EL TEA GRAY, whose forceful support pushed us into even attempting this!

As they say... stay tuned!

P.S.  Please remember, this is an all-volunteer endeavor.  Technical difficulties beyond our control are just that!

[TigerDad]

For those of you unfamiliar with the efforts of historymajor on behalf of Trinity University Tiger Football, I would only say that Bob's tireless work to bring TU football to the "Internet masses" have been Herculean and cutting edge.  It was his idea, he made it happen, and it wouldn't have happened without him.

I've been working with him and the all-volunteer crew all season and I will tell you that the obstacles have been MANY and the technical assistance VERY LIMITED (if any).  As he posted earlier, if a good-quality, high-bandwidth Internet connection is not available in the stadium pressbox (Rhodes, Millsaps, etc.), then the videocast simply can't happen.  We do record it, but a delayed broadcast has very limited appeal and that's just not the same as watching it happen LIVE.

Speaking as a parent of a Tiger player, a Trinity fan, and somebody with relatives all over the USA who enjoy keeping up with the games LIVE on Saturdays, I say a BIG THANK YOU to Bob, Bill, Jonny, JustinT, Butch, Josh, JustinP and all the other guys behind the scenes.  Without their efforts, NOBODY would have seen the "Miracle in Mississippi" on ESPN that night and NOBODY BUT US would know that Division III is "real football by real student-athletes"!  I want to see those guys all walk the stage at the ESPYs ... y'all deserve more than 62 seconds of fame!!

You can't buy this kind of effort, but if you could, you'd be paying ALOT for it!  Karma or no karma ... I say +100 at the least.

Pat, Keith, Ralph: How about a "D3Football.com" Special Merit Award this year?

[Ralph Turner]

I agree about historymajor's contribution to the 2007 season.

I concur that he deserves some type of accolade.