FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[D3_DPUFan]

Let's be honest:  until last year the SCAC was basically a one-horse race with DePauw being the strongest contender (Centre and Rhodes had their shots too). 

Would agree with that, Ron and would add that DePauw had its shots and didn't get the job done. My point is currently and I think perhaps going forward, the SCAC is clearly better...I think the top teams are better (Trinity, Millsaps, DPU) and, importantly, the middle of the pack and "weak' teams are way better...just my opinion...
 

[PA_wesleyfan]

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[PA_wesleyfan]

Happy Holidays to one and all

[BashBacker#16]

TheObservationDeck,
Wabash doesn't have Hiram nor Kenyon on their schedule pal.  I only wish Wabash could play such powers as Anderson, Colorado College, or Birmingham-Southern.  Let's face it, teams have programs on their schedule that are not quality programs.  I love it that DPU has 10 stud programs on your schedule.  Millsaps and Trinity are on a different level then you and how many times have you beaten them?  Pick a team, they all have cupcakes.  I love the fact that DePauw, year in year out, uses the conference excuse/schedule excuse (don't foget the 6 AM workouts) to justify the fact Wabash's program is on another level.  Let's not forget that Wabash has won 5 out of the last 7 Monon Bell games.  You guys talk as if you have been dominant recently.  You haven't.

BTW:  how did the SCAC champ do this year in the playoffs - just curious, how far did they go?  What is DePauw's lifetime playoff record?  Lastly, go ahead and knock the conference's (NCAC) 12-10 playoff record.  In the Creighton-era, Bash is 5-3 winning all 3 first round games.

At least Wes Anderson seems to have a clue.

WAF.

[DPU3619]

Merry Christmas to you too, BB.  Yikes. 

Just for clarity, I don't think he's a DePauw fan.

[Pat Coleman]

TheObservationDeck,
Wabash doesn't have Hiram nor Kenyon on their schedule pal.

No, but they are guaranteed to play at least one every year and if they slip out of the upper tier in the NCAC they'll have their schedule inflated by playing all three. And I think TOD may have been referring to DePauw, not Wabash? Re-read that post and see if you agree.

[DPU3619]

BTW:  how did the SCAC champ do this year in the playoffs - just curious, how far did they go? 

And since we're all in the holiday spirit, I thought I'd take a shot at this slightly misinformed potshot.  Trinity was outed beacuse they ran into 1 of the 3 top tier D3 teams.  Wabash was outed because they ran into 1 of the 3 top tier D3 teams.  Wabash being in the North gets the lovely schedule of MSJ and Case before they run into one of those teams.  Trinity, being in Texas, gets UMHB every single year.  I'm sorry.  I saw Trinity and Wabash, and I just don't think Wabash would make it out of a roadie in Belton.  How would it go for Wabash if they got Mount in the first round every. single. year.?

And since we're in the mood for using one specific example to illustrate why the NCAC IZ TEH BOMB.COM!!!11!, allow me to provide a different specific example.  Trinity went to the Stagg in 2002.  I count that as one more run to the Stagg than the NCAC has in the last 15 years.

Listen, the NCAC's playoff record is so good BECAUSE YOU'RE IN IT.  You played good football this year despite the fact that you never faced a challenge after you lost your QB until the Bell game.  CC still got his guys to the round of 8.  I think the NCAC is down right now.  That's fairly clear, isn't it?  The other top teams just aren't playing great football compared to a half decade ago.  Now, does that lack of competition affect you at all?  Apparently not.  You still played great football against some very good teams in the playoffs. 

There really isn't any point in talking a bunch of crap about how poor DePauw's program is in comparison when the Bell isn't in Crawfordsville.  It doesn't really make any sense.

[BashBacker#16]

Wes - it just gets old hearing the same things from Greencastle about Wabash football, year in, year out...its the soft schedule, its the soft conference, its the lucky playoff draws, its....always something...

[DPU3619]

Do not get me wrong, my friend.  I can certainly understand that.  +1.

However, please allow me to provide a gentle reminder from those of us on this board, if you will.

It gets old hearing the same things from Crawfordsville about DePauw football, year in, year out... it's not beating Trinity, it's not going to the playoffs, somebody has to bring up the coaching changes despite the fact that we've split the last 4 Bell games, it's...always something. 

EDIT: One other thought, I believe that's why it's called a rivalry.

[wally_wabash]

When Wabash joined the NCAC, Witt was one of the premiere teams in the nation.  Constantly ranked in the top 10, frequently in the top 5.  While the NCAC as a whole is not a good conference, there was certainly a 500-pound gorilla that had to be conquered.  It took Wabash 3 seasons in the NCAC to beat that gorilla and get into the playoffs.  DePauw faced a similar issue when they joined the SCAC with Trinity playing the role of the gorilla.  10 years later, DePauw still hasn't figured out how to beat that gorilla.  I'll give you that Witt isn't as strong as they were when Wabash joined the NCAC, you'll have to concede that Trinity isn't on the same level they were when DPU joined the SCAC.  

The SCAC is better overall than the NCAC is...it's ignorant to argue otherwise.  But the SCAC certainly isn't a great conference.  In 10 years, you all should have figured out how to win that thing by now.  

[DPU3619]

We had plenty of chances.  The ways DePauw has found to NOT win are certainly innovative, if nothing else.  Snaps over the punter's head.  Losing 2 score leads in 5 minutes.  Mailing it in in the red zone.  They've tried just about every way possible.

Now we've got two gorillas, to continue your metaphor.

[wally_wabash]

Now we've got two gorillas, to continue your metaphor.

Very true...and I think BSC is going be really good really soon as well.  I'm wondering if DPU's best chance to win the SCAC didn't get washed out by Rita. 

[Tex]

Parity is highly overrated anyway.  Happy new Year boys!

[D3_DPUFan]

TheObservationDeck,
Wabash doesn't have Hiram nor Kenyon on their schedule pal.  I only wish Wabash could play such powers as Anderson, Colorado College, or Birmingham-Southern.  Let's face it, teams have programs on their schedule that are not quality programs.  I love it that DPU has 10 stud programs on your schedule.  Millsaps and Trinity are on a different level then you and how many times have you beaten them?  Pick a team, they all have cupcakes.  I love the fact that DePauw, year in year out, uses the conference excuse/schedule excuse (don't foget the 6 AM workouts) to justify the fact Wabash's program is on another level.  Let's not forget that Wabash has won 5 out of the last 7 Monon Bell games.  You guys talk as if you have been dominant recently.  You haven't.

BTW:  how did the SCAC champ do this year in the playoffs - just curious, how far did they go?  What is DePauw's lifetime playoff record?  Lastly, go ahead and knock the conference's (NCAC) 12-10 playoff record.  In the Creighton-era, Bash is 5-3 winning all 3 first round games.

Seems like someone is a bit insecure?

[D3_DPUFan]

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