FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[D3_DPUFan]

Interesting take...and the value to overall athletic program is indeed very important...but hey, why are we worried about travel expenses? I'm watching President OBama on the tube right now and he says things are looking up:)

[rooski]

Spring football workouts are around the corner. Question...does your team benefit from Spring workouts and if so, why?

Didn't see much feedback to your earlier question, but what were your thoughts on spring drills "DPU"?

And, are new coaches typically on the scene in time for spring workouts?

[Bob.Gregg]

Need some help, fellas....

Pretty good chance I'll be coming to San Antonio next week for the NCAA Division II Women's Elite Eight at St. Mary's University...

I'll be flying into San Antonio Tuesday midday.

Need suggestions on where to stay so as to be close to airport and St. Mary's.

Any suggestions appreciated:

Bob Gregg   bgregg@wjpa.com


THANKS.

[D3_DPUFan]

Didn't see much feedback to your earlier question, but what were your thoughts on spring drills "DPU"?

And, are new coaches typically on the scene in time for spring workouts?

I would assume new coaches would want/need to be there...but am sure it's case by case situation.

Regarding spring practice at the DIII level I think it is very useful, although I think the restrictions vary from school to school. For example, i think some schools don't allow their teams to use a football during the seasions, which sounds crazy. For DPu and others I think it's a chance for some organized team workouts, but more importantly a chance to get in some good work in all three phases of the game and set some expectations for the summer...

[DPU3619]

For example, i think some schools don't allow their teams to use a football during the seasions, which sounds crazy.

Maybe I'm wrong here, and I'll settle for that, but I was under the impression that such a restriction was typically put on by the conferences.

[D3_DPUFan]

Maybe I'm wrong here, and I'll settle for that, but I was under the impression that such a restriction was typically put on by the conferences.

I don't know...but you're probably right, Wes...don't you think that is silly? What in the H is the problem with using a football???

[Ron Boerger]

For example, i think some schools don't allow their teams to use a football during the seasions, which sounds crazy.

Maybe I'm wrong here, and I'll settle for that, but I was under the impression that such a restriction was typically put on by the conferences.

It's not an NCAA policy:  p. 152-3 of the NCAA 2008-9 Division III Football Manual states:

17.11.6 Out-of-Season Athletically Related Activities. Student-athletes and members of the coaching staff shall not engage in athletically related activities outside the playing season per Bylaw 17.02.1.1. (Revised: 1/14/02, effective 8/1/02, 10/22/03, 1/12/04 effective 8/1/04, 8/5/04, 1/10/05)
17.11.6.1 Exception. An institution is permitted to conduct conditioning and strength training sessions and limited skill instruction during a consecutive five-week period outside the playing season. During this five-week period, the institution may conduct athletically related activity on a maximum of 16 days with no more than four days of athletically related activity in any one week. Any athletically related activity (per Bylaw 17.02.1.1) shall constitute the use of a day. Skill instruction during this period shall be limited to passing, catching and kicking-related drills. Such instruction may include offensive and defensive alignments, but may not involve contact. Except for footballs, the use of helmets, pads, blocking sleds or any other form of sport-related equipment is prohibited. No missed class time is permitted for these sessions and the institution shall conclude all athletically related activities by the first date of final examinations for the regular academic year. (Adopted: 1/10/05, Revised: 1/9/06, 1/11/08)

Take out the football and you're severely limiting what can be accomplished in "spring practice." 

[rooski]

That is one of the things that I really like about the board. It's not just entertaining. When there is a clear and correct answer to a question that arises, someone usually comes up with it!

Note: Back from spring break on Monday, I think the Roo's spring drills begin next week.

[Tex]

Howdy Gents.  I find myself working in SA this  week and lo and behold, the TU Tigers start spring ball tomorrow.  Thank goodness!  Bout darn time.

[D3_DPUFan]

Howdy Gents.  I find myself working in SA this  week and lo and behold, the TU Tigers start spring ball tomorrow.  Thank goodness!  Bout darn time.

Nice to hear...look forward to your scouting report. 

I believe the DPU Tigers begin spring practice in a week or so.

[cush]

More smoke to the depauw/leaving the scac story:

http://media.www.thedepauw.com/media/storage/paper912/news/2009/03/03/Opinion/Letter.To.The.Editor-3657186.shtml

http://media.www.thedepauw.com/media/storage/paper912/news/2009/02/24/Opinion/Financial.Problems.Require.Fresh.Look.At.Scac.Affiliation-3646125.shtml


Side note, I thought it was downright comical some prof wrote a letter complaining about the carbon footprint of depauw belonging in the SCAC...

[D3_DPUFan]

More smoke to the depauw/leaving the scac story:

http://media.www.thedepauw.com/media/storage/paper912/news/2009/03/03/Opinion/Letter.To.The.Editor-3657186.shtml

http://media.www.thedepauw.com/media/storage/paper912/news/2009/02/24/Opinion/Financial.Problems.Require.Fresh.Look.At.Scac.Affiliation-3646125.shtml


Side note, I thought it was downright comical some prof wrote a letter complaining about the carbon footprint of depauw belonging in the SCAC...

Thanks for the info...should note that this was an "opinion" piece, written by students (I assume).  I want DPU to remain in the SCAC, but I see nothing wrong with examining some of the issues. If there is a legitimate and balanced review of the facts, the pros and cons, I think the Tigers will remain in the conference. 

As for the prof who complained about the carbon footprint..wow. Comical is one word to describe it. I can think of a few others. 

[DPU3619]

Do you have a link to that letter to the editor about the carbon footprint?  I looked and looked and couldn't find it in the archives. 

I generally disagree with that opinion piece by the editorial staff.  They're basing the argument on the University letting faculty go due to the economy.  The University always fires faculty.  They always don't renew faculty.  Even when the economy is good.  They always call it a cost-cutting measure, too.  Now if that's the thing that makes you angry, then fine.  But, if you want to use the "firing faculty is bad" argument, then don't use the economy as a crutch, because that's not the problem.  Yeah, DePauw's letting faculty go, but they always let faculty go.  They were making cost cutting firings in the faculty when the economy was good.  That being said, if DePauw wants to blame the economy on such a conference switch, I think that's entirely different from a PR standpoint.  They'd go a long way in saving face compared to their last conference switch.

I'm a firm believer that the reason tuition went up last year by the highest percentage in recent memory is directly due to the travel budget.  It has gone up a LOT in the last 3 or 4 years.  I'd wager way more than the national average.  I'd be more upset about that than anything else.  But, those young pups aren't even paying attention to the bill that Mom & Dad cuts the check for, so it isn't a big deal to them.  That's the real problem with being in this conference, imo.  That and all the missed class time.  Which, Prof. Klinger makes a good point about, because in other conferences, DePauw would be playing mid-week.  Something they don't currently do unless they're out of the conference, which are teams that are typically close by.  That Wednesday night basketball trip to Allegheny wouldn't be a lot of fun, for instance.

[cush]

Oh, i guess the carbon footprint comment by the prof really wasn't that bad of a thing to state...its just kinda of funny to me how some profs/deans live in PCU fantasy land, might have to rent that movie...:

http://media.www.thedepauw.com/media/storage/paper912/news/2009/02/27/Opinion/Letters.To.The.Editor-3653198-page2.shtml

My take again is depauw is probably putting out the signals to either the Midwest conference or the NCAC and if they bite, depauw will jump at an offer...guess 11 teams works for the big 10, ditto the nescac.

[DPU3619]

Thanks! +1