FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[D3_DPUFan]

any additional reax from the scac? would the league work with schools to move games to accomodate things, or do schools simply have to work with their scheduled date vs. cc, as well as their open date? the more i think about this, and the timing of it, the more it pisses me off...did colorado college administrators all of a sudden wake up in the spring and determine it was time to cut football? imho there is a stinch coming from colorado springs....

[DPU3619]

What options are available to member schools in terms of scheduling? Are they simply on their own to find a random game?

DePauw is in luck because their original bye week was Week 1.  There's about 5 or 6 teams that are open Week 1:

Delaware Valley
East Texas Baptist
Gallaudet
Salisbury
UW-Eau Claire
UW-Stevens Point
UW-Whitewater

Think Galludet would be the one to get there, particularly if you're looking for a winnable game.  Alfred's the only team open on the original CC date, but if DPU moves it to Week 1, they're open the week before Trinity.

[Ralph Turner]

What options are available to member schools in terms of scheduling? Are they simply on their own to find a random game?

DePauw is in luck because their original bye week was Week 1.  There's about 5 or 6 teams that are open Week 1:

Delaware Valley
East Texas Baptist        In-region
Gallaudet                     In-region
Salisbury                     In-region
UW-Eau Claire
UW-Stevens Point
UW-Whitewater

Think Galludet would be the one to get there, particularly if you're looking for a winnable game.

[D3_DPUFan]

DePauw is in luck because their original bye week was Week 1.  There's about 5 or 6 teams that are open Week 1:

Delaware Valley
East Texas Baptist
Gallaudet
Salisbury
UW-Eau Claire
UW-Stevens Point
UW-Whitewater

Think Galludet would be the one to get there, particularly if you're looking for a winnable game.  Alfred's the only team open on the original CC date, but if DPU moves it to Week 1, they're open the week before Trinity.

Interesting, Wes...especially intrigued by a potential open date before Trinity. What is the significance of in-region vs. out of region games?

[Ralph Turner]

The Championship Committee determines the at-large bids on the basis of in-region records.

[D3_DPUFan]

The Championship Committee determines the at-large bids on the basis of in-region records.

so obviously it's beneficial to schedule an in region game...thanks, ralph...

[DPU3619]

Very beneficial.  And probably beneficial to schedule a winnable one, because DePauw plays a tough schedule anyway.  That happened the last time DePauw had a late open date.  They ended up scheduling Wesley to come to Blackstock and got buried in a deep, deep hole in Tim Rogers' first game as head coach.  Later that year they had to beat Wabash to get the Pool C, and couldn't do it.  If they could have gotten a more winnable game Week 1, then they probably got in that year.  Also was the hurricane year, fwiw.

I'm going on a limb to say that they aren't seriously looking at Whitewater.  They don't want a loss, and they do want the regional game.

[Ralph Turner]

The Championship Committee determines the at-large bids on the basis of in-region records.

so obviously it's beneficial to schedule an in region game...thanks, ralph...

My opinion...

If Trinity schedules and beats Wesley and runs the SCAC, then there is a very good chance that Trinity has the seed to host thru the quarterfinals.

TU usually has a better OWP/OOWP than the ASC teams.  If TU has a win over an in-region ranked Wesley and an in-region ranked Millsaps or DePauw, and an in-region record of 10-0, (remember that BSC games count as in-region in 2009-10), then I think that they will be regionally ranked over the ASC leader.

I recommend that TU schedule Wesley versus the WIAC schools.

[D3_DPUFan]

So it would seem to be a race of sorts to nail down a beneficial game (with few of them available)...also, what are the implications of only having 9 games? I am NOT in favor of this...just curious as to any negative (or positive) consequences...

[Ron Boerger]

So it would seem to be a race of sorts to nail down a beneficial game (with few of them available)...also, what are the implications of only having 9 games? I am NOT in favor of this...just curious as to any negative (or positive) consequences...

If you're 8-1 vs 9-1 then 9-1 teams have a statistical advantage (e.g. .900 vs .889, anything that factors your winning percentage puts you at a slight disadvantage).   It's the same reasoning you want as many games as possible to be in-region.  Not a killer but it doesn't work in your favor if things are close.

[Ron Boerger]

The Championship Committee determines the at-large bids on the basis of in-region records.

so obviously it's beneficial to schedule an in region game...thanks, ralph...

My opinion...

If Trinity schedules and beats Wesley and runs the SCAC, then there is a very good chance that Trinity has the seed to host thru the quarterfinals.

TU usually has a better OWP/OOWP than the ASC teams.  If TU has a win over an in-region ranked Wesley and an in-region ranked Millsaps or DePauw, and an in-region record of 10-0, (remember that BSC games count as in-region in 2009-10), then I think that they will be regionally ranked over the ASC leader.

I recommend that TU schedule Wesley versus the WIAC schools.

Isn't Wisconsin in-region for TX because of the administrative areas?   Not that I saw any of them open on the days Trinity has available now.

Yeah, I'm sure you want Trinity to schedule Wesley, Ralph ... LOL

[D3_DPUFan]

If you're 8-1 vs 9-1 then 9-1 teams have a statistical advantage (e.g. .900 vs .889, anything that factors your winning percentage puts you at a slight disadvantage).   It's the same reasoning you want as many games as possible to be in-region.  Not a killer but it doesn't work in your favor if things are close.

Good to know...I'm sure the folks in Greencastle have been busy today (and tonight)...am sure they'll get a game nailed down...

[PA_wesleyfan]

So it would seem to be a race of sorts to nail down a beneficial game (with few of them available)...also, what are the implications of only having 9 games? I am NOT in favor of this...just curious as to any negative (or positive) consequences...

There are a few teams that would rather play nine games up this way rather than play Wesley. But each time I mention them certain fans get really upset!!!
I think Coach Drass would play as many SCAC teams as he could to fill out a schedule if he could get more than a one year commitment . I just don't know how many flights Wesley can take in one year. I would think they may bus to LaGrange if they have a game in Fla too.    

[Ralph Turner]

Isn't Wisconsin in-region for TX because of the administrative areas? 

Yeah, I'm sure you want Trinity to schedule Wesley, Ralph ... LOL

Yes, admin region #4 for Trinity.

[DPU3619]

I think Coach Drass would play as many SCAC teams as he could to fill out a schedule if he could get more than a one year commitment . I just don't know how many flights Wesley can take in one year. I would think they may bus to LaGrange if they have a game in Fla too.    

I believe a lot of those powerhouse schools with open dates end up paying out a pretty nice sum to the teams that scheduled them.  That was the rumor when the Wolverines came to Greencastle.  They paid a fairly nice sum to DPU for scheduling them and then came to our place to boot.  They'd probably come back again, but I just don't know if the coaching staff is looking for that kind of game either A) right out of the gate or B) before the biggest game of the season.

I imagine those powerhouse schools almost have to do that to schedule non-confs.