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DPU3619

Perhaps you can share what you've heard from your youngster regarding DPU's recruiting, but everything I've heard says that DPU is very pleased with their group.  Apparently there's a ton of in-state talent, even more so than usual.

D3_DPUFan

Interesting coverage on the home page regarding CC football...maybe that's why administrators seemed to make the decision under the cover of darkness...didn't want to have to deal with opposition...

Ralph Turner


Ron Boerger

$400K raised/pledged in such a short period of time (without any effing support from the adminstration) is quite impressive. 

Pat Coleman

D3football.com pledged money in support as well. (Not a lot compared to $400K, of course.)

http://www.saveccfootball.com/
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formerd3db

Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 08, 2009, 10:56:03 PM
D3football.com pledged money in support as well. (Not a lot compared to $400K, of course.)

http://www.saveccfootball.com/
Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 08, 2009, 10:38:42 PM
$400K raised/pledged in such a short period of time (without any effing support from the adminstration) is quite impressive. 

Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 08, 2009, 08:43:05 PM
I have bought mine!  :)
Quote from: D3_DPUFan on April 08, 2009, 08:06:20 PM
Interesting coverage on the home page regarding CC football...maybe that's why administrators seemed to make the decision under the cover of darkness...didn't want to have to deal with opposition...

Interesting indeed.  Some of you may recall that about 5 years ago or so, Michigan Tech University's administrators announced that they were dropping the university's football program - an NCAA DII scholarship program.  This was also done without input/discussion from the alumni.  Within 3 months, alumni, fans and other MTU football supporters had raised over 3 million dollars to save the program, formed an organization to assist the university in overseeing/supporting the program and pledged to help fund this for future years.  Faced with this overwhelming support, despite their apparent previous lack of including input from these other parties, the MTU administration reinstated the program.  MTU is competitive and in fact, thereafter went 10-1 in the regular season (making the DII playoffs I believe that year - one of the 3 GLIAC teams that did - I'd have to go back and check the NCAA book for that, but do not have the time right now), and also, that was the year they played Grand Valley State in U of Michigan's stadium I believe, drawing over 51, 000 fans (and outdrawing Central Michigan at Eastern Michigan DI MAC just 5 miles away).

If MTU can raise that kind of $, and that being for a DII scholarship program, Colorado College alumni and supporters most certainly should be able to do similar for saving their football program.  Although CC has the added expenses of flying as compared to MTU and the other GLIAC programs who all travel by bus, I can't imagine that CC's expenses would be more than the scholarships overall - without hard figures in front of me, of course, I'm speculating right now.  Still, a DIII program overall expenses are not going to be like DII.  DIII schools do that out of their general budget and even the smallest of schools, if they really want to, (such as Olivet, MI) can find a way to make it work (with the exception of Blackburn and Principia ;D ::) :o).

Anyway, I hope it works out for CC.
 
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Ron Boerger

#6531
According to what is purported to be an email from the CC AD, the school is considering changing conference affiliation, apparently to one that does not require as many sports to be offered.    Timeframe is 3-4 years.    One wonders even if that decision is made, whether or not football would be one of the sports CC would elect to support.

Click the "show quoted text" link to display the email in question. 

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 10, 2009, 09:55:26 AM
According to what is purported to be an email from the CC AD, the school is considering changing conference affiliation, apparently to one that does not require as many sports to be offered.    Timeframe is 3-4 years.    One wonders even if that decision is made, whether or not football would be one of the sports CC would elect to support.

Click the "show quoted text" link to display the email in question. 

Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 03, 2009, 11:15:31 AM
This is almost heretical, but the student-athlete experience is valid in many scenarios.  If the isolation of Colorado College relative to the rest of D-III, and the travel expense therein is really a problem for Colorado College, then has CC explored D-II?

The Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference offers everything that the CC needs, and all of the member universities are closer than the nearest SCAC opponent.

Half of the schools in the RMAC are on the Front Range, less than a 90-minute drive from the Springs.

I think that is a euphemism for "moving to D-II"

D-II requires 10 sports 5 male and 5 female. (Please correct me here if I am wrong.)

CC is keeping Men's Ice Hockey and Women's Soccer.  Since there is no D-II in Men's Ice Hockey, then they must go D-I.

If the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference will permit CC to participate in 4 other sports (M & W), then CC can "change conference affiliations" (move to D-II).


OxyBob

Here's a couple of news stories about the effort to save CC football from the local FOX and NBC stations:

Colorado College students try to save sports

CC rally

It must be particularly galling to some at CC that their sports programs aren't getting a bailout, seeing that Colorado went for the Messiah in the last election. Surely the Messiah Administration can spare a few million dollars of their freshly-printed funny money to save CC football.

OxyBob

Ralph Turner

Here are the offerings by the RMAC and Colorado College...

RMAC - Men:  Baseball, Basketball, XC, Football, Golf, Soccer, Tennis, Swimming,  Indoor Track and Field, Outdoor Track and Field, Wrestling

RMAC - Women: Basketball, XC, Golf, Soccer, Tennis, Swimming, Indoor Track and Field, Outdoor Track and Field, Volleyball and Softball

CC - Men: Basketball, XC, FB, Soccer, Swimming, "Track and Field", Tennis, Lacrosse, (D-1 Ice Hockey)

CC- Women: Basketball, XC, (D-I Soccer), Swimming, "Track and Field", Softball, Tennis, Lacrosse, Water Polo.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: OxyBob on April 10, 2009, 10:38:35 AM

It must be particularly galling to some at CC that their sports programs aren't getting a bailout


Please keep the political drivel in the politics board.

cush

That's a pretty easy decision, Colorado College should immediately  move to DII and join the RMAC, with football or no football but with the move to d2, i'd keep football...can't think that process would take that long, more like 3-4 months rather than years... guess the RMAC would need to find another expansion pick to even their membership out at 16 teams though + wonder if this exploring another league by CC was one of the items the depauw AD was alluding to in some of his comments about the SCAC? yet, considering the scac as a couple of willing replacements out there, udallas or berry, doesn't really effect the scac if CC moved to d2. 

Pat Coleman

Quote from: OxyBob on April 10, 2009, 10:38:35 AM
Colorado went for the Messiah in the last election.

Messiah doesn't have football. They're really good in soccer and women's basketball, however.
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hasanova

#6538
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 10, 2009, 11:58:15 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 10, 2009, 10:38:35 AM
Colorado went for the Messiah in the last election.

Messiah doesn't have football. They're really good in soccer and women's basketball, however.
Well, it is worth noting his winning pick in DI men's basketball.

hasanova

Quote from: OxyBob on April 10, 2009, 10:38:35 AM
It must be particularly galling to some at CC that their sports programs aren't getting a bailout, seeing that Colorado went for the Messiah in the last election. Surely the Messiah Administration can spare a few million dollars of their freshly-printed funny money to save CC football.

OxyBob
Hey OxyBob, if you were a hawk, your right wing would be showing.  :)