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Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ron Boerger on June 10, 2009, 03:56:19 PM
[EDIT] Oglethorpe and [/EDIT] BSC are the most "southeast" schools.   

With re "academic prestige" ... what league would schools join that would align better?  The UAA wouldn't take any of the SCAC schools, and any other possibility could have WORSE travel issues for the remote schools.  We've talked about DePauw and the NCAC, but they're not going to want to take on a lot of other schools.   It would be interesting to know which schools are concerned about the "prestige" of the SCAC.   

CC could help by going D2.  UDallas would be a natural replacement and be a great travel partner for AC.
 
I agree Ron!

Colorado College may be best served by going D-II for geographic consideration and less school time missed, especially with the block scheduling, where students study one subject at the time.

Half of the schools in the D-II Rocky Mountain AC are on I-25 on the Front Range. Also, it is not that Colorado College has scruples about scholarship athletics (D-1 men's ice hockey and women's soccer).

Having read the article, I think that the SCAC and the ASC need to bring forth legislation that permits full conferences having 7-member divisions to gain the AQ in those sports in which there are 7-members after 2 consecutive years and keep multiple AQ's as long as the threshold of 7 in each is kept.  If a division fell below 7-members then the conference would preserve one AQ bid for the division that fell short.

In a large conference such as ours (SCAC and ASC) the conference could have the single AQ in sports like football and lacrosse where there is not enough participation for two AQ's.

I wonder if this report is timed to SCAC Presidents' meeting.  If so, I would like to have the the writer's sources.   ;)

As for academic prestige, which schools in the East do they not want?  Huntingdon?  LaGrange? Piedmont?  Maryville TN?

Gray Fox

Quote from: rooski on June 10, 2009, 01:34:23 PM
One thing that really helped me was traveling and seeing a broader picture of DIII and the conference. Each site has it's own very distinct flavor and personality and really magnifies the experience.

But seriously. Y'all come see us this fall. I'll get you as many game tickets as you need!
Great point.

I get my tickets from the scalper at the west parking lot.  But there is never anyone to take them at the gate.  This year I plan to sneak in. :-[

The one improvement to your field would be to put the scoreboard at the west end.  The sun hides the score and time.  Otherwise it is pretty good. :P
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rooski

Quote from: Gray Fox on June 11, 2009, 01:04:14 AM
Quote from: rooski on June 10, 2009, 01:34:23 PM
One thing that really helped me was traveling and seeing a broader picture of DIII and the conference. Each site has it's own very distinct flavor and personality and really magnifies the experience.

But seriously. Y'all come see us this fall. I'll get you as many game tickets as you need!
Great point.

I get my tickets from the scalper at the west parking lot.  But there is never anyone to take them at the gate.  This year I plan to sneak in. :-[

The one improvement to your field would be to put the scoreboard at the west end.  The sun hides the score and time.  Otherwise it is pretty good. :P

I wondered if the ticket offer would get a rise from anyone. I hear that scalper will be asking double the face value this fall ;).

Honestly, for those who have not been to Sherman - there is no ticket needed for our home football  games....

I agree about the difficulty reading the scoreboard. A move probably would help.

Ron Boerger

If you have a chance to go to Sherman, go (scoreboard or no).  It's a very nice facility for D3 and the press box is also quite nice.  I'll miss going up there since I don't live in McKinney any more. 

D3_DPUFan

QuoteIf you have a chance to go to Sherman, go (scoreboard or no).  It's a very nice facility for D3 and the press box is also quite nice.  I'll miss going up there since I don't live in McKinney any more. 

I was also impressed by the size of the crowd how much they were into the game...also were very friendly...nice experience.

roocru

From another Roo fan ---

Thanks for all the accolades about Apple Stadium!  Add to that an improving football team and and it is an exceptional deal for the money!  ;D
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TigerDad

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rooski;

I will double your offer ... anyone headed to Trinity University for a home football game at glorious EM Stevens Field, contact me at least 5 minutes in advance and I will get you two tickets for the price of one.  I'll leave them at the "will call" window.  Bring your darkest sunglasses to hide your identity.

;D

P.S.  I have used that story on some hometown folks headed to a Trinity game.  At least I get a kick out of it!  The folks at the snack bar concession stand do not get the joke at all.  :P
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DPU3619

Quote from: TigerDad on June 11, 2009, 12:17:39 PM
rooski;

I will double your offer ... anyone headed to Trinity University for a home football game at glorious EM Stevens Field, contact me at least 5 minutes in advance and I will get you two tickets for the price of one.

IF YOU CALL RIGHT NOW, I'LL DOUBLE THE OFFER!





Ralph Turner

Any news from the SCAC Presidents' meeting today?

How was the Centenary presentation?

Were there any other guests (e.g., Berry?) at the meeting?

Ron Boerger

Maybe you should send a note to the writer of that Lacrosse article, Ralph.  He seems to have better inside info than anyone here!   :D

frank_ezelle

While it doesn't involve football, my biggest hope about the President's meeting this week is that maybe they reversed that terrible decision to cut back the SCAC Championship tournaments to just semi-finals and finals.  It will be such an injustice imposed by the SCAC Presidents on the SCAC student-athletes if that decision stays in place.
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Ron Boerger

Quote from: frank_ezelle on June 14, 2009, 05:38:13 PM
While it doesn't involve football, my biggest hope about the President's meeting this week is that maybe they reversed that terrible decision to cut back the SCAC Championship tournaments to just semi-finals and finals.  It will be such an injustice imposed by the SCAC Presidents on the SCAC student-athletes if that decision stays in place.

Sadly, Frank, with economic pressures being what they are I can't imagine this even being on their radar.   

frank_ezelle

I believe what might be on the radar is looking at other ways to save money that don't involve having teams eliminated from the conference championship at mid-season, and maybe the majority of teams out of the race with a few weeks to go in the season.  I believe that's whats on the radar of the coaches, AD's, and players and hopefully they made a strong argument to the SCAC Presidents about this. 

In all honesty, I have little hope that the presidents would reverse their decision even if a very strong case was made for a better way to do things.
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Tennessee_papa

Frank - For what this is worth, a couple of months ago I was talking to one of the conference coaches who coaches a sport that is affected by the reduction in championship tournament teams.  This coach was recruiting one of my kids to play starting next season, so we visited for several hours.

The championship tourney reduction came up in the conversation and the coach expressed some belief that it would be changed at the president's meeting.  I don't remember exactly how it was phrased, but I'd say it was expressed as something stronger than hope and weaker than expectation, more toward the expectation end of the scale.

It left me with the idea that the coach believed it would be changed back to the way it has been.  Didn't say what the source of this belief was.

Guess we'll find out one of these days.....

Ralph Turner