FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[awadelewis]

Here's a link:
http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/

Thanks for the link.  I had an out of date link that no longer worked.

[Pat Coleman]

It's great data. That's where we pull our enrollment numbers, as well.

[Ron Boerger]

Final '10-'11 SCAC NACDA Directors' Cup standings:

1.  DePauw - 419.50, 33rd overall (to NCAC)
2.  Centre -  333.75,  45th (to "CAC")
3.  Trinity - 293.5, 53rd (to SCAC)
4.  Colorado College , 194.0, 95th (SCAC)
5.  Rhodes - 83.5, 193rd ("CAC")
6.  Southwestern - 82.0, 200th (SCAC)
7.  Oglethorpe - 65.25, 221st ("CAC")
8.  Sewanee - 64.00, 222nd ("CAC")
9.  Millsaps - 12.00, 316th ("CAC")
10.  Hendrix - 5.00, 320th ("CAC")
11.  Austin - 0.00 (SCAC)
12.  BSC - not eligible

Looks like the gap between the "have" and the "have nots" in the CAC is going to be at least as large as in the SCAC. 

[33Belly]

The only NAIA school in Texas that I could see joining the new SCAC would be Southwest Assemblies of God.  They are not going to be able to compete in the conference that they are in.  Texas College and newly started Wayland Baptist would not be good options for the SCAC from the NAIA ranks.  There is very little chance that Coach Mumme would go for McMurry stopping their plans to go DII to join the new SCAC, but he may not stay long there anyways.  Howard Payne or TLU would be the easiest to pick from the ASC.  TLU and Trinity have a natural rivalry and Howard Payne is not looking to compete like they did early in the 2000s.

[cush]

I don't think the scac needs any naia  from texas, they should be able to get to 6-7 texas school's by picking off a few ASC school's. Now the naia school they should really target is Oklahoma city university. If geography isn't a concern, they could also go after some NAIA school's like friends university in kansas, westminster college in utah, maybe some naia school's in Nebraska but of course geography will always be of some concern. Yet, the scac could go back to 12  if enough school's jumped. They probably should gameplan for 6-7 texas school's, colorado college, centenary with 1-2 other naia school's from adjoining states.

[etg]

(El Tea Gray--re: 2011 Trinity Tiger Football)

2011 Dave Campbell's Texas Football
Trinity Tigers--Players to Watch

Offense
RB Patrick Granchelli
QB Nykolas McKissic
WR Riley Walker
WR Cory Scherr

Defense
LB Ben Robinson
DB Antonio Dubouse
DE Phillip Hiner-Leaman
DB Tyler Barrett

                                                                       

[etg]

(El Tea Gray--re: Expanded UAA?)

2011 Sporting News Football
D3 Other Teams to Watch
Case Western Reserve---listed


2011 Lindy's Football
All D3 Team
2nd Team Offense
OG Tony Opperman  Sr.  Case Western Reserve

2nd Team Defense
LB Dan Polaneczky  Sr.  Chicago


2010 (W-L)
Chicago  (8-2)
Case Western Reserve  (8-2)
Washington (MO)  (7-3)
Carnegie Mellon  (4-6)


                                                                         

[etg]

(El Tea Gray--re: Expanded UAA?)


2012 Expanded UAA (Proposed)
Austin
Brandeis
Carnegie Mellon
Case Western Reserve
Chicago
DePauw
Emory
New York University
Rochester
Southwestern
Rochester
Washington (MO)

For Football (7)
Austin
Carnegie Mellon
Case Western Reserve
Chicago
DePauw
Trinity
Washington (MO)


For Other Sports
Eastern Group (6)
Brandeis
Carnegie Mellon
Case Western Reserve
Emory
New York University
Rochester

Western Group (6)
Austin
Chicago
DePauw
Southwestern
Trinity
Washington (MO)


                                                                         

Inspired by:
"Dropping eleven; hitting twelve."
"That was a twelve, that was a twelve, that was a twelve!"
Tin Cup

[ADL70]

Interesting speculation; next to zero chance of happening.

DePauw unlikely to go anywhere without Wabash.

Isn't football travel alot of what doomed the SCAC?

Except for football (and to a lesser extend baseball) the UAA works well.

More likely scenario if UAA wants to compete for FB AQ is for the four schools to affilitate with other conferences (CWRU and CMU to NCAC or PAC  Chicago to MWC and WUStL to give NewCAC 7 or to fill out whatever Trinity and Austin can put together.  If the new conferences play only 7 conference games, the UAA round robin could be maintained.

[DPU3619]

The main reason DePauw left was that they literally could not afford to travel that far anymore.  It's not necessarily that they didn't want to, they just couldn't.  Too big an expense in a expanding budget with a dwindling endowment.  They had already all but stopped flying places.

So they just aren't going to go the UAA.  It ain't happening.  NYU, Rochester, Brandeis in the other side and Trinity, Southwestern, and Austin in the same division?  No.

I doubt DePauw would go if Wabash went.  Plus, I think Wabash is happy being aligned with the Denison, Kenyon, & the rest of NCAC academic profile.

[DagarmanSpartan]

The proposed UAA with former SCAC members won't happen simply because:

1) those proposed SCAC members aren't urban private research universities, of the sort currently found in the UAA, AND

2) aren't AAU members (the UAA is literally the only conference in the country that can boast of having EVERY member also be a UAA member; even the Ivy League falls sort of that because of Dartmouth).

The UAA schools consider each other to be their "peers."  They would likely not view Austin College, Trinity, Southwestern, etc. that way.

[hickory_cornhusker]

The proposed UAA with former SCAC members won't happen simply because:

1) those proposed SCAC members aren't urban private research universities, of the sort currently found in the UAA, AND

2) aren't AAU members (the UAA is literally the only conference in the country that can boast of having EVERY member also be a UAA member; even the Ivy League falls sort of that because of Dartmouth).

The UAA schools consider each other to be their "peers."  They would likely not view Austin College, Trinity, Southwestern, etc. that way.

Actually the Big Ten is also all AAU members until Friday when Nebraska joins.

[Ralph Turner]

The proposed UAA with former SCAC members won't happen simply because:

1) those proposed SCAC members aren't urban private research universities, of the sort currently found in the UAA, AND

2) aren't AAU members (the UAA is literally the only conference in the country that can boast of having EVERY member also be a UAA member; even the Ivy League falls sort of that because of Dartmouth).

The UAA schools consider each other to be their "peers."  They would likely not view Austin College, Trinity, Southwestern, etc. that way.

Actually the Big Ten is also all AAU members until Friday when Nebraska joins.

LOL, there goes the neighborhood...   

[yaya67]

... lol
The SCAC is an old established conference. It seems that it will only get stronger if you build upon AC and Trinity in football programs. The coaches that are now in place have strong teams that will impact the field next year. It seems like to me that excellent academics coupled with excellent athletes that choose to play D3 will equal success for any strong program that joins. I believe the wind is changing direction and it will be for the better in the long run.

[Ron Boerger]

No surprise here, but according to this d3sports.com story, the NCAA Membership Council approved Birmingham-Southern as an active member of D3.  The NCAA Management Council still needs to bless the move, which seems a formality.