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Tex

#7215
Frank,

With all due respect to you and AC, the only win of note in that list above was Rhodes.

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.


I can't remember where I read this recently, but some coach was saying that "let other team get their moral victories, I'll take the W."  (to paraphrase)

Should be a whale of a game at the end of the year.  I can't wait to make the drive to Sherman! 
"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son." -- Dean Wormer

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Tex on September 17, 2009, 12:13:13 PM
Frank,

With all due respect to you and AC, the only win of note in that list above was Rhodes.

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.


I can't remember where I read this recently, but some coach was saying that "let other team get their moral victories, I'll take the W."  (to paraphrase)

Should be a whale of a game at the end of the year.  I can't wait to make the drive to Sherman! 
Hal Mumme said something to that effect from his end of the Trinity MCM scoreboard.

D3_DPUFan

Kudos to the SCAC for the launch of its weekly sports recap...SCAC 360. Combined with the Internet-based SCAC Media Days launched this season and what I think is a pretty robust website, the league is really doing a nice job of using technology to get its messages out and, importantly, promoting its members and student-athletes...ONE SUGGESTION...stop referring to the SCAC as the "SKAK"...doesn't sound very good...too much like SKANK!  ;D 

frank_ezelle

So since it isn't horseshoes or hand grenades, are we saying that an 0-2 McMurry football team in 2009 is no better than the 0-10 version in 2008?  And therefore, can we conclude that the hiring of Hal Mumme has done nothing to improve the McMurry program despite the closeness of the losses?

I'm just trying to get this straight in my mind, and I ask the question with all due respect to Coach Mumme and the McMurry football team.
Millsaps Athletics:  http://www.gomajors.com/
Millsaps Photo Website:  http://gomajors.smugmug.com/

Ron Boerger

#7219
Quote from: frank_ezelle on September 17, 2009, 03:19:11 PM
So since it isn't horseshoes or hand grenades, are we saying that an 0-2 McMurry football team in 2009 is no better than the 0-10 version in 2008?  And therefore, can we conclude that the hiring of Hal Mumme has done nothing to improve the McMurry program despite the closeness of the losses?

I'm just trying to get this straight in my mind, and I ask the question with all due respect to Coach Mumme and the McMurry football team.

It's hard to say, Frank, given where we are in the season.   McM certainly had some success against Trinity but had a hard time stopping AC.  There's not enough data about either AC (which after one D3 game seems improved) or Trinity (which after two games seems down offensively) to make a definitive statement as to whether this year's McM is better than last year's McM.  I think McM is better on the offensive side of the ball, defensively I would question it.  

Ralph Turner

Let's look last year's AC team.

They lost a road opener to SAGU 16-14 and then only put up 294 yds total offense on 63 plays against McMurry.  McMurry had a last minute FG go wide right in the rain of Hurricane/Tropical Storm Ike to send the 2008 game to 2OT.

http://athletics.mcm.edu/sports/football/2008/fb0913e.htm

(AC's defense allowed 320 yds on 74 plays in 2008.)

This season, AC rang up 528 yds on 87 plays against a different defense.  The defense allowed 2 more TD's.

In context, McMurry was competitive against Trinity in the season opener in 2009; they weren't in 2008.

I think that we are seeing the effect of Braly executing the offense as it should be, and the whole team is learning how to win.  Not to disparage previous AC teams that always had players of valorous character, but that is a change for the AC of recent years.

McM Fan

Quote from: Tex on September 17, 2009, 12:13:13 PM
Frank,

With all due respect to you and AC, the only win of note in that list above was Rhodes.

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.


I can't remember where I read this recently, but some coach was saying that "let other team get their moral victories, I'll take the W."  (to paraphrase)

Should be a whale of a game at the end of the year.  I can't wait to make the drive to Sherman! 

I don't believe anyone here thinks AC is a top 5 team nationally...however, it is not absurd to see them as a dark horse in the SCAC.  

Taking into consideration the small margin of their losses from last season and an offensive scheme that is hitting its stride with experienced athletes like Hasten and Braly, it is possible to see them pull off some upsets this year...possibly this Sat against MC.

If you want a good preview of the AC offense, watch Georgia Tech tonight...similar schemes...and AC finally has a QB to run that offense.  Braly ran the exact same offense at Air Force before transferring to AC, so they have the experience...not to mention the best running back in the SCAC.

SCACfan81

"Catching Kernek"  as of 9-17-09

Ross Hasten chasing former Austin College All-American and NY Giants RB Aaron Kernek for the all time rushing record at AC.

Aaron Kernek


1997:   30 att,   110 yds,   1 td,   15.7 yds/G
1998: 152 att,   805 yds,   8 td,   80.5 yds/G
1999: 174 att,   781 yds,   6 td,   97.6 yds/G
2000: 276 att, 1548 yds,  15 td, 154.8 yds/G

Totals:  632 att, 3244 yds, 30 td, 87.15 yds/G

Ross Hasten


2006:   80 att,  479 yds,  1 td,   47.9 yds/G
2007: 118 att,  672 yds,  7 td,   67.2 yds/G
2008: 131 att,  826 yds,  6 td,   82.6 yds/G
2009:   43 att,  244 yds,  4 td, 122.0 yds/G

Totals:  372 att, 2221 yds, 18 td, 79.9 yds/G

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Kernek:  632 att, 3244 yds, 30 td, 87.15 yds/G
Hasten:  372 att, 2221 yds, 18 td, 79.90 yds/G

Hasten needs 1023 yds to catch Kernek's mark for yardage.
Hasten needs 127.8 yds/G to catch Kernek within the regular season.

stats
http://www.ascsports.org/sports/2009/9/14/sidebar_508.aspx?path=football
http://www.austincollege.edu/Category.asp?5553





Bill McCabe

Quote from: frank_ezelle on September 17, 2009, 03:19:11 PM
So since it isn't horseshoes or hand grenades, are we saying that an 0-2 McMurry football team in 2009 is no better than the 0-10 version in 2008?  And therefore, can we conclude that the hiring of Hal Mumme has done nothing to improve the McMurry program despite the closeness of the losses?

I'm just trying to get this straight in my mind, and I ask the question with all due respect to Coach Mumme and the McMurry football team.

Frank, I agree with your point.  Austin College and McMurry are both better and getting better.

frank_ezelle

Here's a link to the Millsaps preview of the game this Saturday, and the preview includes a link to the Millsaps webcast which will probably start a few minutes before the 1:00 kick off:

http://www.gomajors.com/news/2009/9/17/FB_0917091156.aspx
Millsaps Athletics:  http://www.gomajors.com/
Millsaps Photo Website:  http://gomajors.smugmug.com/

rooski

 :) Such marsupial passion! I hope it continues beyond this weekend!!

Cool thing is, most everything everyone has said - is true.

...The Roos haven't... ...the Roos have... ... and the Roos could.  ;)

May God bless the young men of the SCAC and keep them all safe this weekend.

D3_DPUFan


Game notes for Centre vs. DePauw this weekend in Greencastle. Kick time 1 p.m. EST.

http://depauw.edu/ath/football/2009/notes/centre.pdf

wabashcpa

Quote from: D3_DPUFan on September 17, 2009, 08:15:13 PM

Game notes for Centre vs. DePauw this weekend in Greencastle. Kick time 1 p.m. EST.

http://depauw.edu/ath/football/2009/notes/centre.pdf

Looking at the game stats for DPU against Centre last year, Koors had 220 yds receiving.  Seeing how he just had over 200 yds receiving against Anderson, think he and Spud are licking their chops right about now?

D3_DPUFan

QuoteLooking at the game stats for DPU against Centre last year, Koors had 220 yds receiving.  Seeing how he just had over 200 yds receiving against Anderson, think he and Spud are licking their chops right about now?

May open up opportunities for Mulligan, Dahlstrom and Brannigan... ;) Mulligan was hurt and didn't make the trip to Danville last year.

rooski

Quote from: wabashcpa on September 17, 2009, 08:22:38 PM
Quote from: D3_DPUFan on September 17, 2009, 08:15:13 PM

Game notes for Centre vs. DePauw this weekend in Greencastle. Kick time 1 p.m. EST.

http://depauw.edu/ath/football/2009/notes/centre.pdf

Looking at the game stats for DPU against Centre last year, Koors had 220 yds receiving.  Seeing how he just had over 200 yds receiving against Anderson, think he and Spud are licking their chops right about now?

While the Millsaps game is the biggest game this weekend from an AC point of view, the game in Greencastle will probably be even bigger. Two really good teams who expect to win the title. Someone will get a jump on the pack by winning this one. I really wish there was someone from Centre among our posters.