FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[bb king]

This is addressed to each individual responder to my post.

To be honest with you I couldn't care less about my writing skills. Obviously you didn't read the first of my post.

Ins major I want to thank you for your welcome to the board is a great to share with you and others about Millsaps and this league. I don't know why you would be shocked to hear the truth come out about Twhat is going on at Millsaps, it was just a matter of time before people started to talk about some of the issuses going on.

TU 268 Just for your information I have no dog in this fight. But if you are asking me if the over looked candidates were african american then yes you maybe right. That is not the only reason, these guys are good coaches and great recruiters and also put there heart and soul into building this program. I believe that if Pelch and Caffey are to be interviewed then so should this others.

I hate to tell you this but my credibility is second to none and is very high. And my statement on the reduction of minority students is fact not fantasy. I am closer to the situation than you will ever know. The reason I want this information out is because I think that a reduction will hurt or potential athletic pool.

Also for the guy who ask why they would reduce the team number, you obviously didn't read either they don't have the money in the budget to cover the over amount of kids. Do I agree with you that this doesn't make sense I do. They should be trying to get more kids.

[bb king]

By the way I am not a bitter person. I just want them to finally make some good decisions on the direction of the school.

[Ralph Turner]

Mr King,

In D-III you may know that the costs run something like this.

Tuition Room Board Charge  

minus discount rate including scholarships grants etc.

plus federal and/or state aid

minus fixed administrative costs

minus fixed salary costs, especially teaching

minus fixed overhead, facilities etc.

Equal revenue.

Most schools get to this point and figure out how much they can add to the bottom line by having students fill resdient halls and cafeterias and underutilized teaching slots/seats in the classrooms to add dollars from the students.

Let's assume that every student at Millsaps brings in $30,000 hard money in tuition, room, board and fees for 1000 students.   That is $30,000,000 revenue

If fixed and variable costs are $29,800,000 for 1000 students,  then an extra 20 football players is $600,000 to the bottom line, minus what variable costs that the school will incur because of 20 more bodies on the campus.  That $600,000 is that extra money that allows more things to be done on campus.

Once you figure that out, then you start figuring out how much it is to add each sport to the school.

IMHO, the SCAC would shed some of its expenses if it were to split into 2 conferences and cut down on travel and double the AQ's.

[evacuee]

I still think you're full of it, bbking.  I'm sure you think you're right with all your heart, but if your credibility is so great, particularly with Millsaps football, then my image of their program just went in the toilet.  Since I think you are a joke, I still can respect their program. 

Nothing you say can be taken seriously because from what you've shared with everyone here, it all comes back to race with you(and you can't write).  You are pathetic and you are damaging the very program to which you are so close.  Fortunately for Millsaps, this board isn't read by a great number of people.

[Patriot_Pride]

BB King, Nothing you say can be taken seriously because from what you've shared with everyone here, it all comes back to race with you (and you can't write).  You are pathetic and you are damaging the very program to which you are so close.  Fortunately for Millsaps, this board isn't read by a great number of people. 

You know what, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I applaud someone opening up a can of worms for once and getting things off their chest. Too many times on this board people bite their tongues because they don't want to say the wrong thing. That's what message boards are for, to talk about all that is going on and to stir up a little drama now and again. While I don't always agree with everyone, and people don't always agree with me, I truly respect everyone's opinions. Cause that's what they are, our opinions. No one should get that worked up over someone typing down their feelings on a particular topic. Heck, all of us think we're a little bigger than we really are when we're on a keyboard.

BB King, it's obvious there's a lot of stuff that's been building for you the past 3-4 years and you just let it all out in a matter of 30 minutes amidst 2-3 cold beers. Coors Light I hope.  A lot of what you said should've been kept inside (prob like 75 percent), but I'm glad you put some stuff out in the open.

In response to TU2698, Millsaps does not have a football program, not yet. We've had a good run the last four years, simply because we had a strong leader in DuBose, great assistant coaches, and got a lot of players in we probably shouldn't have with some shady recruiting. We'll know after the 2010 and 2011 seasons if we have a program. If we don't find a way to go .500 the next two seasons, then I'm afraid we're back to being a football team. And yes, A LOT of people read this board, especially Millsaps supporters, but they just read and don't post.

On the SCAC topic, it needs to be split up. There are some schools who think they're better than others academically and want to be on their own. Then there are some who don't like the travel. IMHO, the SCAC will split up in the next two years because of the cost containment going in effect in 2010-11. Cutting schedules by 10 percent is just a bad, bad decision. I expect Centenary or the likes of a New Orleans to join the SCAC in the coming years, and schools like Centre, Sewanee and Colorado College to test the waters in another conference.

[Ralph Turner]

A conference needs 7 members to sponsor an AQ.

That is the kicker.  You can add affiliates, but the SCAC has not done that in my memory.

Even UDallas women were just filling the open date in soccer, because Colorado College's women were D1, and it made a nice simple trip to play UDallas, a 70 mile trip away.

Losing Colorado College (? to the Associated Colleges of the Midwest new conference that we are hearing rumors about)? DePauw to the NCAC? And where would Sewanee go?

[frank_ezelle]

Let's do a body count:

The Millsaps administration and Athletic Director Tim Wise were thrown under the bus right from the start.  Likewise with Coach Caffey and Coach Pelch when bb questioned their qualifications to be a head coach.  The admissions department at Millsaps has been painted as being racially motivated.  Now we find out that DuBose was winning in part thanks to shady recruiting.  I'm going to stop reading out of fear that the volunteer photographer will be next on the hit list.

How's that saying go?  With friends like this...

[exmajor]

Let's do a body count:

The Millsaps administration and Athletic Director Tim Wise were thrown under the bus right from the start.  Likewise with Coach Caffey and Coach Pelch when bb questioned their qualifications to be a head coach.  The admissions department at Millsaps has been painted as being racially motivated.  Now we find out that DuBose was winning in part thanks to shady recruiting.  I'm going to stop reading out of fear that the volunteer photographer will be next on the hit list.

How's that saying go?  With friends like this...

I agree with Frank, this is getting ridiculous guys!  I know people inside the program and administration too, but I just don't see why this board should be a place to discuss some of these things. 

I agree with INS that we should be able to speak (type) freely here, but within reason.  Some of the Millsaps posters are not doing a good job of representing the school well and that is unfortunate.  There is no question that many changes are happening in Jackson right now, but there are two sides to every story.  So many things that have been said are just impossible to quantify, so why say them? 

Regardless of what has been said, Millsaps football has, is and will be a football program that I am proud to have played in, regardless of our more challenging years.  That is part of the game and all of us associated with Millsaps should be proud of where the program has come from and excited about its future.

[cush]

I think the SCAC should get bigger before contemplating dissovling the league...add Udallas to the west and Berry college to the east for starters ASAP. Ideally, you would bump up to 16 to further cut travel when Centenary comes on board in D3 in a few years, put them in the west and ? in the east. Yet, there might be a school or two leaving so the scac could remain at 14 which would  still reduce cross division travel greatly. If the scac did break up, i would guess the 8  school's- hendrix to the east would form a new league while the 3 texas school's + CC (if they didn't find a new home) would look to form a new league.

[Ron Boerger]

Welcome back, Mr. Powell.  Interesting that you decided to come back with a different email address.   I figure if you're going to come out with such accusations and naming people by name that everyone should know yours.  It's only fair, Kendall.

[bb king]

My intent and goal was never to throw anyone under the bus. It was only to bring light to some of the problems that are going on and how better to help this fine instiution. The statement  on reduction was only to say that it shouldn't be based on who can pay a full amount to the school but for those who chose to be educated by some of the finest instructors in the business. I believe that if you have the desire to attended it shouldn't be based on economic reasons.

As for the ad I along with several people believe that it is time to hire a full time ad. It is difficult to ask anyone to do two jobs and be good at both.

As for the two coaches mentioned both maybe great candidates and I'm sure they would do a great job. The reason their name came up was because of post put on here. I have no problem with them being interviewed and I do think they have the right to have a chance to be the next hc. Just like I have the right to state my opinion that there are others who have been over looked.

I realize that I look like I am being against all that is good in Millsaps this is strictly not true. But I see this is not a place to discuss a variety of topics and and occasionally stir a little conversation. There seems to be a people who do not have thick skin. As one poster stated we should be able to discuss things. My one intent was to get people to ask questions and try to have a positive dialouge.

As for recruiting there was no shady recruiting at Millsaps or anywhere else in this league. These kids are bright and have a great future ahead of them.

as INS stated I would get slammed on here and I am a big boy and can take it. I probably stated to much, I just want to see this program continue to grow and move in a positive direction. My opinion on the coaching search is mine there are no darts being tossed at anyone. I truly hope that Millsaps makes a great hire. I reacted to the comments and should have been like 90% of people who read this board and kept my mouth shut instead of joining in.

If I offended anyone I do apologize.

[Patriot_Pride]

Let's do a body count:

The Millsaps administration and Athletic Director Tim Wise were thrown under the bus right from the start.  Likewise with Coach Caffey and Coach Pelch when bb questioned their qualifications to be a head coach.  The admissions department at Millsaps has been painted as being racially motivated.  Now we find out that DuBose was winning in part thanks to shady recruiting. 

The SID was kinda thrown under the bus, too. And I think the volunteer photographer is fine.

As far as shady recruiting....does the name Chris Jackson ring a bell? Didn't he play at like three different levels in the NCAA and only come to Millsaps for one semester and not go to class? While I was thrilled to have him on our side (especially in the 2006 championship game vs Trinity with two punt returns for TDs) that had to piss a few teams off in the league.

Ok, I'm off football for two weeks until the hire. Baseball season starts today...hopefully without the rain.

[bb king]

wasn't meant to throw sid under bus. He did a great job and he will be sorely missed at Millsaps. They should have done all the could to keep him. He is a great one and will have a great career.

Good Luck with baseball. Hope you have a great season.

[D3_DPUFan]

You know what, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I applaud someone opening up a can of worms for once and getting things off their chest. Too many times on this board people bite their tongues because they don't want to say the wrong thing.

You may applaud someone making idiotic statements. I don't.  There are lots of folks on this board who love to mix it up...throwing crapola up to see what sticks is something very different.

[Shoreman]

Why not add Huntington & LaGrange to SCAC East