FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Ron Boerger]

DPU 2011 schedule v. SCAC opponents (assuming opposite of 2010):

Sep 17 Centre
Sep 24 @Sewanee
Oct 1 Millsaps
Oct 8 @Rhodes
Oct 22 Trinity
Oct 29 @B-SC
Nov 5 @Austin

I salute the DPU administration for being willing to honor their 2011 commitments; at the same time, I imagine they will work with their soon-to-be former opponents if there are changes that can be done to benefit both schools.   They probably don't *really* want to go to Sherman on November 5th, for example.  Trinity probably doesn't really want to go all the way to Indiana for a non-conference, out-of-region game on October 22nd, either.  Looking at the open games board for 2011 there's not much, but who knows. 

[Ralph Turner]

DPU 2011 schedule v. SCAC opponents (assuming opposite of 2010):

Sep 17 Centre
Sep 24 @Sewanee
Oct 1 Millsaps
Oct 8 @Rhodes
Oct 22 Trinity
Oct 29 @B-SC
Nov 5 @Austin

I salute the DPU administration for being willing to honor their 2011 commitments; at the same time, I imagine they will work with their soon-to-be former opponents if there are changes that can be done to benefit both schools.   They probably don't *really* want to go to Sherman on November 5th, for example.  Trinity probably doesn't really want to go all the way to Indiana for a non-conference, out-of-region game on October 22nd, either.  Looking at the open games board for 2011 there's not much, but who knows. 

There should be an open date for an ASC school on each of those dates.

[Ron Boerger]

There should be an open date for an ASC school on each of those dates.

If so, Ralph, they're not listed in the 2011 open dates calendar. 

[Ralph Turner]

There should be an open date for an ASC school on each of those dates.

If so, Ralph, they're not listed in the 2011 open dates calendar.  

Good point.

There might be a switch of opponents from an NAIA to an NCAA opponent in that case.
I am not sure when the rotation of dates will occur in the ASC.  The dates move forward in the schedule so as to change the time in the season that the teams play.  The open dates move, too.

[cush]

I think berry will get the depauw's spot over udallas since its a eastern spot opening and the odds are probably much higher berry can/will start a football program someday. Who knows about colorado college's plan's. Given, they are probably the best academic school in the league, i'm sure that carries same catch within the scac but travel is crazy and the fact they have no football now hurts them. Yet, CC really doesn't have any place to go other than moving NCAA divisions or forming a new league. IF they want to remain in the scac and feeling is mutual, expansion to 14 members makes the most sense. I would add udallas and centenary even though they signed on with another league to ease travel with larger divisions. IF cc does leave, than pick either udallas or centenary, i'd go with them, and remain at 12 and hope hendrix and berry get football started up.

[BashDad]

Trinity probably doesn't really want to go all the way to Indiana for a non-conference, out-of-region game on October 22nd, either.

Why would it be non-conference?

[wally_wabash]

Trinity probably doesn't really want to go all the way to Indiana for a non-conference, out-of-region game on October 22nd, either.

Why would it be non-conference?

When Wabash moved from the HCAC to the NCAC, a similar two-phase implementation happened...everything except football in 1999-2000, followed by the football program joining in the following year.  Wabash's HCAC games in 1999 were not non-league games and I believe Wabash was eligible to win the league championship and the AQ that would have gone with it (this was the first year of the glorious AQ era).  Hopefully DePauw's games in 2011 will count for league standings...it seems fair that they should. 

[Ron Boerger]

Trinity probably doesn't really want to go all the way to Indiana for a non-conference, out-of-region game on October 22nd, either.

Why would it be non-conference?

They're leaving the SCAC effective the end of the 2010-11 year; DPU will be an independent in football the 2011-12 season.   The SCAC could alow DPU to be a one-sport member in 11-12, but that's not how the SCAC release (presently) reads.  

[BashDad]

I haven't seen it stated that DPU will be "independent" in any of the releases. Can you post a link?

[Ralph Turner]

Trinity probably doesn't really want to go all the way to Indiana for a non-conference, out-of-region game on October 22nd, either.

Why would it be non-conference?

They're leaving the SCAC effective the end of the 2010-11 year; DPU will be an independent in football the 2011-12 season.   The SCAC could alow DPU to be a one-sport member in 11-12, but that's not how the SCAC release (presently) reads.  

Pool B!

[BashDad]

Yes, fine-- but it seems to me that you're jumping the gun here. It hasn't been stated plain anywhere how exactly conference affiliation will work that season. Also, it would seem fairly unnecessary to make Depauw play a conference schedule as an outsider; they could have very well bailed on the schedule entirely, but they didn't.

[cush]

I think  for 2011 season depauw football should be a full scac conference member. I'm not sure how legal wise it works being in all sports but football in one league and football only in another but it shouldn't be a problem.  The bigger issue for scac football would be getting hendrix started and berry, who should thrive in d3 football assuming they replace depauw. I would also guess depauw might keep some scac non-conference football games in future years.

[Ron Boerger]

Folks, all I'm doing is stating what appears to be the case based on what the SCAC office has said (or not said) in their communications.  It's possible that one question for the SCAC presidents in their meeting this week is whether or not to allow DPU to be a football-only conference member in '11-'12.  Don't think the  SCAC has allowed 'associate members' in the past so it may be that there has to be a change to the by-laws (etc.) before any announcement can be made.  

In the mean time, it's the offseason, there's not much else going on, so speculation is fun.   

[Pat Coleman]

I will follow up and see what I can find.

[BashDad]

Folks, all I'm doing is stating what appears to be the case based on what the SCAC office has said (or not said) in their communications.  It's possible that one question for the SCAC presidents in their meeting this week is whether or not to allow DPU to be a football-only conference member in '11-'12.  Don't think the  SCAC has allowed 'associate members' in the past so it may be that there has to be a change to the by-laws (etc.) before any announcement can be made.  

In the mean time, it's the offseason, there's not much else going on, so speculation is fun.   

Where has the SCAC office been quoted? Doesn't look to me like they've made any statement...