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DPU3619

A friendly tweet from @DePauwAthletics tells me this is the first time DePauw is 4-0 since 1985. 

Also, if my math is correct, it wouldn't be ALL over next week, but it's going to be awfully tough for anybody else to win the conference if DePauw beats Rhodes in Greencastle next Saturday.  They'd have the tiebreak over Rhodes, Centre, and Millsaps (all who would have just the one conference loss.)

After that you would need scenarios where DePauw is one of multiple teams at two conference losses.  DePauw would have the tiebreak over everybody other than Trinity & Austin in the event they were to win against Rhodes but still have the two conference losses. 

wabashcpa

Quote from: Wes Anderson on October 02, 2010, 05:15:42 PM
A friendly tweet from @DePauwAthletics tells me this is the first time DePauw is 4-0 since 1985. 

Also, if my math is correct, it wouldn't be ALL over next week, but it's going to be awfully tough for anybody else to win the conference if DePauw beats Rhodes in Greencastle next Saturday.  They'd have the tiebreak over Rhodes, Centre, and Millsaps (all who would have just the one conference loss.)

After that you would need scenarios where DePauw is one of multiple teams at two conference losses.  DePauw would have the tiebreak over everybody other than Trinity & Austin in the event they were to win against Rhodes but still have the two conference losses. 

Wes,

If DePauw, at home, doesn't beat Rhodes, there should be an investigation.

frank_ezelle

The box score shows Millsaps with 13 penalties for 266 yards.  While that might seem like a typo, the Millsaps announcers said 240 yards in penalties towards the end of the game so the 266 yards is probably right.  Barring DePauw picking up two losses, it does appear that the race for the NCAA AQ is down to just DePauw and Rhodes.

Boxscore to today's game:  http://gomajors.com/custompages/Football/2010/mfb10-05.htm
Millsaps Athletics:  http://www.gomajors.com/
Millsaps Photo Website:  http://gomajors.smugmug.com/

wabashcpa

Quote from: frank_ezelle on October 02, 2010, 07:00:03 PM
The box score shows Millsaps with 13 penalties for 266 yards.  While that might seem like a typo, the Millsaps announcers said 240 yards in penalties towards the end of the game so the 266 yards is probably right.  Barring DePauw picking up two losses, it does appear that the race for the NCAA AQ is down to just DePauw and Rhodes.

Boxscore to today's game:  http://gomajors.com/custompages/Football/2010/mfb10-05.htm

They must have been channeling the Packers from this past Monday - that is some serious penalty yardage.

DPU3619

Quote from: wabashcpa on October 02, 2010, 05:54:45 PM
If DePauw, at home, doesn't beat Rhodes, there should be an investigation.

That's certainly true.  DePauw ought to win it.  But, a little food for thought here, Rhodes went to Trinity last week (a place DePauw has never won) and knocked them around pretty good.  That was probably more Trinity's fault than a spectacular effort by Rhodes, but it still happened.  

bucephalus

13  penalties at 15 yds each would be a maximun of 195 yards. Look at the boxscore on the  Millsaps site...they were reporting penalties as if they were opportunity loss. If you have an  offside penalty on a 99 yard run, it's still only a 5 yard penalty. A hold that results in bringing a long run back is not a 44 yard penalty, it's a 10 yard penalty from the spot of the foul.

DPU3619

I noticed a few issues like that.  I didn't watch the whole game, but I'd wager that Derrick Karazsia did not gain 88 yards and lose 74 yards for a net of 14 yards on 28 carries.  A K. Peters on Millsaps has a TFL for 73 yards.  Nice play, son.

Tex

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I've not weighed here for a few weeks, my disappointment great.  I'm a Trinity dad and being silent seemed best.  I will say, I've never seen a team with so many injuries after week one, let alone week four.  MASH unit set up on campus.  

I was at the BSC game yesterday.  Luckily my work schedule changed and I have to be on Huntsville tomorrow, so flew in a few days early.  

Yesterday marked TU's first points off turnovers all season.  In fact, in their three previous games, the defense only had one turnover, a halftime ending INT against MC last week.  (I'm pretty sure that's right but welcome to correction).

We won the turnover battle, hence the game.  

From Pop Warner to the NFL, it's hard to win if you lose the turnover battle.

A third talented running back hit the field yesterday for TU (a freshman) and he came in to spell Lewis and turned those opportunities into TD's. The last TU Td was a beautiful trap play that went for about 40 yards or so.  The new kid got thru the hole and just flat outran everyone on the field.  It was fun to watch.  

TU rushed for around 250 on a team that only gave up 70 something to Huntingdon. 

I felt the game was still in doubt at halftime.  BSC has some very talented kids.  They turned the ball over too much and I give that credit to the TU defense.  

I think the new Panther stadium is beautiful.  Everywhere we travel, I am shown beautiful colleges with very nice football fields.  Its tough enough to recruit to TU with the tuition/room/board costs, silly high admission standards, then you show these recruits the football field.  The grass itself isn't bad, but good gravy, the 1930's era looking stands and facilities just make Coach Mohr's job that much tougher.  Leather helmets would fit in nicely at EM Stevens field.  In all fairness, the Bell Athletic Center rivals many D-1 programs.  They just forgot about the football stadium.  

Everyone else in the SCAC is stepping up their facilities and are attracting better and better athletes. San Antonio now has UTSA and Incarnate Word playing ball, more competition for Texas talent.  
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Fripp52

For more accurate stats on the DPU-Millsaps game, look at the ones posted on DePauw's website.  I can't explain what the Millsaps stats say.  There are stats for players who did not travel, Derrick's 70 plus yards lost rushing, and the penalty yards issue, at least.
Millsaps is a talented team.  Penalties, kicking game, and other oddities killed them.  Without those, it is a different game.  I have to ask why Galatas does not play every single down on offense.  Was he hurt ?  He is a game changer and more often than not, he was not on the field.  But, he was on all return teams.  So I would not think it was injury.  The call to throw the ball out of the wildcat was very strange and may have turned the game with the INT that resulted.  Up to that time, the wildcat had not worked and now you ask a player who cannot throw to throw.
Things that impressed me from DePauw's side - defensive line play may have been the best I have seen in 4 years.  Bowser had averaged 100 plus against very good teams up to that point and he had 20 or so.  DePauw had a running game.  They actually wore Millsaps' defense down as the game progressed.  Nice win.....
Finally, Will Hawkins is a football player.  He hit everything that moved and he covered nicely when DePauw passed the ball.

Tacttm1

No excuses from me for the Millsaps loss.

Kind of hard to put up points when the unsportsmanlike, personal fouls, mouthing off, etc. penalites pull you in the wrong direction.  Lack of discipline and control thus far all season.  Very disappointing, even a bit embarrassing.
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Tacttm1

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Ron Boerger

For there to be much to talk about for the rest of the season, DPU somehow has to lose two of its remaining three conference games.

Oct 9  home v. Rhodes
Oct 23 at Trinity
Nov 6 home v. Austin

Rhodes:  Doesn't seem likely as the Lynx' best win, at Trinity, is sandwiched by losses to .500 teams like LaGrange and Westminister.

Trinity:   After losing home games to Rhodes and Millsaps, most would say this is doubtful, too.  Much better effort against B-SC offers a glimmer of hope but team needs to quit suffering injuries week in and week out.  

Austin:  Have recent history of being close to a signature W, but have yet to pull one off.    Turned a 33-14 late third quarter lead into a 42-40 loss at home vs. Centre two weeks ago.

This is a strange game.  We've seen two-loss SCAC champions in the not-so-distant past, but it will be very surprising if it happens this season.    

DPU3619

One of the weird quirks about all these schedule changes the home office has done is the fact that DePauw has played at Austin exactly one time in the five seasons they've been in this conference.  DePauw only won by 3 that day, but has handled Austin fairly well in Greencastle in their four trips.

That's the one I'm concerned about most, honestly.  DePauw will beat Rhodes if they play as well as they have played.  I'm not that optimistic about the Trinity trip either way, particularly since the last time we were there we played a 56 minute football game.  They may lose at Trinity, but if they come back home and beat Austin, none of it matters anyway. 

All that said, I think DePauw would really like to get to Monon 9-0 for playoff seeding's sake.  You can't tempt fate too many times with heading into the playoffs 8-2.  Alliance will come calling eventually.

D3_DPUFan

QuoteThat's the one I'm concerned about most, honestly.  DePauw will beat Rhodes if they play as well as they have played.  I'm not that optimistic about the Trinity trip either way, particularly since the last time we were there we played a 56 minute football game.  They may lose at Trinity, but if they come back home and beat Austin, none of it matters anyway. 

Probably right...Austin palyed really tough in Sherman two years ago...but DePauw has played them very well in Greencastle. And thanks for bringing up Trinity...yikes! The officiating in San Antonio was without a doubt the worst I have ever seen---at any level. Absolutely horrific...