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TLU02SA

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 09, 2015, 02:33:55 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 09, 2015, 02:00:44 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 09, 2015, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: TLU02SA on October 09, 2015, 12:50:49 PM

I have a question, does D3 have any rule that permits a conference championship game in football?  I am assuming they are not allowed because I have not heard of such a game being played and the playoffs start the weekend after the regular season ends.  Thus, there is no room to schedule it.  If it was permitted, a combined ASC/SCAC football only conference would work with twelve teams but would require a two division/conference championship setup.  I doubt the schools would have interest in that type of setup though.

Yes. The conference championship rule was actually established to benefit a DIII conference. I think it was the ECFC that had two divisions and petitioned and won the right to have a conference championship back in the 90s. They were the only DIII conference I can remember having one and they recently split into two conferences, ending the need.

To piggy-back on what jk said, the MWC currently hosts a conference championship game.  Those schools play 9 games between weeks 1 and 10, then in week 11 they pair off teams from each division in a 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2, etc. format with the 1 vs 1 game being played for the league's championship and AQ.

And just because I'm a stickler for detail, it was the NEFC (not the ECFC; that league is more recently formed) that used to have two divisions and played a conference championship game.  It's my understanding that the NEFC was a football-only league that served as a home for schools from a couple of different leagues that did not sponsor football, but then it split into the NEFC and MASCAC and now there's going to be more shuffling, there was a story on the D3 page recently.

(http://www.d3football.com/notables/2015/10/ccc-brings-football-teams-in-house)

So, yeah.  You can have a conference title game, probably has to be something like the model wally describes here.

Great info and thanks to all!  I don't see the Texas schools solving this issue any time soon for better or worse.  One of three things will have to occur to solve this log jam: additional Texas schools will need to start D3 football programs; schools reclassify to D3; or a football only conference with ASC/SCAC schools being created.  You would think eventually one of these would occur.

TLU02SA

Great showing by TLU tonight!!!  They really took control of the game on offense and defense.  HERE WE COME TO the cruthedral!!!!!  BULLDOGS ARE COMING TO RECTIFY THE ORDER IN TEXAS!!!  I am looking at you UMHB 2001!!!

Coolrey

I think everyone knows that TLU will need to be at full strength and play their best game in two weeks to have a chance.  The Cru has been playing very well and they are currently the undisputed "king of the hill" in Texas.  TLU has made tremendous strides under Coach Padron and his staff and they will have the team ready to play.  UMHB is always ready to play and I trust they will be again in two weeks.  Both teams are well-coached.  Hopefully it is a good, competitive game.

GillCJ1

Let's just hope the weather is better than the last time the 2 teams met.  That wasn't fun for anyone.
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Toby Taff

Quote from: GillCJ1 on October 11, 2015, 02:11:54 PM
Let's just hope the weather is better than the last time the 2 teams met.  That wasn't fun for anyone.
kind of sucked, actually. I had to miss Sunday because I had to be back in Abilene.

TLU02SA, I hear all the TLU talk from people but am reminded that last year @ TLU 72-16, in the playoffs 27-20 even though TLU had the ball for 48+ minutes, and it was 20-10 at the lightening delay when UMHB had the ball for less than 5 minutes. Then TLU loses to HSU this year. Are they better? yes. Are they in UMHBs strata? Not yet. I plan on making the trip. It'll be the first time I trust others t run my restaurant without me, so, I Think it'll be a good game. I don't think it'll be last year playoffs or regular season, but the result will still be a W for the CRU
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

Ron Boerger

Only game involving SCAC teams this week is Austin at Trinity in a non-conference game.   The 'Roos defense is among the nation's leaders in turnover margin, but they've been a bit up and down at 3-2 which includes their most recent game, a surprising 35-28 home loss at the hands of Southwestern.   Trinity will try and bounce back from their big loss to HSU.    Both teams have had a week to heal up and plan for this one. 

jekelish

Very curious to see how this AC/Trinity game plays out. The story in AC's two losses this season has been the opposition's ability to stop Madison Ross. AC is 3-0 when he has a big day, and in the 2 losses, he's been held to an average of 64 yards per game (as opposed to 172 yards per game in the three wins).

Ron Boerger

Trinity stopped the AC offense cold all day (102 yards) but kept shooting themselves in the foot (penalties, a blocked FG, a fake punt that went bad, a turnover on their 10 which led to the only Roo score).   AC won the field advantage battle, pinning Trinity deep most of the afternoon.   Finally, in the fourth quarter, a short crossing pattern turned into a long TD for Trinity, and on AC's ensuing first play the Tigers picked off a Roo pass at midfield and returned it to the AC 4, scoring a few plays later.    Another AC pass was returned for a TD a series or two later.

Trinity ended up with about 340 yards of offense but it was not a thing of beauty.   If they still had it, the TU defense would have earned the Black Flag for their play today.

umhb2001

Matchup is set! UMHB rolls through their opponents to set up and undefeated Cru vs a one loss Bulldog team. Let's go!
Watch out for the wreckingCRU defense!!

Kelly Boggs

Looking forward to the Bulldogs visit to The CRUthedral.
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TLU02SA

Looking forward to the game this weekend too!  I have been trying to figure out how to make my schedule work to get to Belton. Unfortunately, my children's sports schedules are not cooperating and it looks like I will have to enjoy the game from home. 

GillCJ1

Quote from: TLU02SA on October 19, 2015, 01:47:53 PM
Looking forward to the game this weekend too!  I have been trying to figure out how to make my schedule work to get to Belton. Unfortunately, my children's sports schedules are not cooperating and it looks like I will have to enjoy the game from home.

I understand all too well.  I mean, I live close to Belton, but my son has a soccer game too.  Unfortunately, it falls at the same time as this game.
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TLU02SA

Quote from: GillCJ1 on October 19, 2015, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: TLU02SA on October 19, 2015, 01:47:53 PM
Looking forward to the game this weekend too!  I have been trying to figure out how to make my schedule work to get to Belton. Unfortunately, my children's sports schedules are not cooperating and it looks like I will have to enjoy the game from home.

I understand all too well.  I mean, I live close to Belton, but my son has a soccer game too.  Unfortunately, it falls at the same time as this game.

I live in Houston and my son's soccer game starts at 10 am and daughter's game is at 11:30.  Just not enough time in a day! In the first half of a season, TLU's home games start at 6 pm but that they change to 1 pm start times in the last half of the season.  Sounds like UMHB does something similar.  I like those early season games because there is a chance I can make them.  I have never understood the reasoning behind 1 pm start times.

Warren Thompson

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TLU02SA:

Perhaps the 1 pm starts are weather-related. I taught at Texas Lutheran back in the Dark Ages, and I remember how brutally chilly Seguin could be in October and November. After sunset the mercury might dip all the way down to the low 70s (and one memorable evening it was in the high 60s at kickoff).  ;)

GillCJ1

Quote from: Warren Thompson on October 19, 2015, 07:23:42 PM
TLU02SA:

Perhaps the 1 pm starts are weather-related. I taught at Texas Lutheran back in the Dark Ages, and I remember how brutally chilly Seguin could be in October and November. After sunset the mercury might dip all the way down to the low 70s (and one memorable evening it was in the high 60s at kickoff).  ;)

+k for making me snicker  :)
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