FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Bmo]

Against that schedule, Lyon has a chance to go 4-4 against d3 opponents, so their SOS impact would be marginal.  It would be better than a bye week or NAIA fill-in.

[Pat Coleman]

Their OWP would be terrible, though. That is Trinity's OOWP.

[Bmo]

Well, looks like Lyon won't have to worry about that trip to Michigan.

[TLU02SA]

Well, looks like Lyon won't have to worry about that trip to Michigan.

Unfortunate.  These closures just seem to be more and more common.  Being a graduate of a small college, I want to see this trend stop.  I know what TLU did for me and, while the small college experience may not be for everyone, alternatives to giant universities are needed in higher education.

[Ron Boerger]

Trinity and Southwestern just announced they are moving to the SAA (all sports) in 2025. 

[TLU02SA]

Trinity and Southwestern just announced they are moving to the SAA (all sports) in 2025.

This is too bad.  Posted something similar on the ASC page but this appears to open the door for some sort of combination between the SCAC and ASC for football, at a minimum.  I would think a merger of the two conferences would be on the table as well.

[Ron Boerger]

Trinity and Southwestern just announced they are moving to the SAA (all sports) in 2025.

This is too bad.  Posted something similar on the ASC page but this appears to open the door for some sort of combination between the SCAC and ASC for football, at a minimum.  I would think a merger of the two conferences would be on the table as well.

There are too many schools in the ASC for a merger - still eight after McMurry and Sul Ross leave.  It's just that only four of them play football, and that's where I can [now] see the two getting together.

[TLU02SA]

Trinity and Southwestern just announced they are moving to the SAA (all sports) in 2025.

This is too bad.  Posted something similar on the ASC page but this appears to open the door for some sort of combination between the SCAC and ASC for football, at a minimum.  I would think a merger of the two conferences would be on the table as well.

There are too many schools in the ASC for a merger - still eight after McMurry and Sul Ross leave.  It's just that only four of them play football, and that's where I can [now] see the two getting together.

True but a conference of 15 is doable. Certainly not unheard of.  I recall the ASC being around 16 when I was at TLU and shortly thereafter but my guess is that was a factor for multiple schools moving to other conferences. 

[jknezek]

Trinity and Southwestern just announced they are moving to the SAA (all sports) in 2025.

This is too bad.  Posted something similar on the ASC page but this appears to open the door for some sort of combination between the SCAC and ASC for football, at a minimum.  I would think a merger of the two conferences would be on the table as well.

There are too many schools in the ASC for a merger - still eight after McMurry and Sul Ross leave.  It's just that only four of them play football, and that's where I can [now] see the two getting together.

True but a conference of 15 is doable. Certainly not unheard of.  I recall the ASC being around 16 when I was at TLU and shortly thereafter but my guess is that was a factor for multiple schools moving to other conferences.

The ODAC has 15 full members, but I suspect they are one of the biggest conferences in the country. A caveat, 2 of those members are womens only (Hollins and Sweet Briar), one is mens only (Hampden-Sydney). So no sport has more than 14 participants, and I think that's only women's soccer (though t&f, cc, swimming I'm not sure). Several others have 13 participants. Frankly, I think it's too big. I don't like the setup for sports that don't play a full round-robin (men's and women's soccer and probably some others), but it can be done.

[TLU02SA]

The ODAC has 15 full members, but I suspect they are one of the biggest conferences in the country. A caveat, 2 of those members are womens only (Hollins and Sweet Briar), one is mens only (Hampden-Sydney). So no sport has more than 14 participants, and I think that's only women's soccer (though t&f, cc, swimming I'm not sure). Several others have 13 participants. Frankly, I think it's too big. I don't like the setup for sports that don't play a full round-robin (men's and women's soccer and probably some others), but it can be done.

I completely agree. I don't like that setup either but I have to think it is on the table right now.

[Ron Boerger]

This is what the SCAC office tweeted yesterday:

We plan to have 6 football teams by no later than 2026 with an NCAA AQ. SCAC football returns in 2024 with Austin, Centenary, Lyon (affiliate) & McMurry. We are hopeful that Schreiner will be up & running by 2025 and Texas Lutheran will transition from the ASC no later than 2026.

[Ralph Turner]

I guess that leaves the Baptist Four in the ASC.
The SCAC is a more winnable conference only to be monkey-stomped or double monkey-stomped by an ASC team in the 1st round.

[Ralph Turner]

This is what the SCAC office tweeted yesterday:

We plan to have 6 football teams by no later than 2026 with an NCAA AQ. SCAC football returns in 2024 with Austin, Centenary, Lyon (affiliate) & McMurry. We are hopeful that Schreiner will be up & running by 2025 and Texas Lutheran will transition from the ASC no later than 2026.

Gee, McMurry could win the SCAC with a 3-7 record!

Look at performance of all McMurry teams since the return to D3. There is a real paucity of championships compared to pre-D2 days.

[The Third Division]

I'd like to embarrassingly point out that I just learned that the SCAC is not the SCIAC. 

[D3Navy]

I'd like to embarrassingly point out that I just learned that the SCAC is not the SCIAC. 

The last honest man. 

Easy mistake.