FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[TigerDad]

Ron, very good write-up on the TU-UMHB game for D3Football.com!  Although it didn't turn out the way we were hoping (Tiger fans, that is), it is no shame to lose to a strong(er) team that should go deep in the playoffs this year.  Having experience with a team that made it to the finals but lost, I have seen what a motivation that can be for the guys the next season.  Perhaps the Crusaders have simply made up their minds to get back and claim the Stagg this year.

Was sure proud of the Trinity guys, especially the seniors of the Black Flag.  Very impressive performance, gentlemen.  You guys did everything that was needed to win ... just needed a little help from the O that didn't come this time.  Nothing to hang your heads about ... hope you have all recovered from the disappointment and can instead remember the 9-0 that came before this.  I'm sure all of us PAWS are proud to have been there to see you give it all this season ... for the younger guys, you've got something to work towards next year.  I daresay that UMHB will be there next year again ... you'll get your chance to right the wrongs when next you meet.  They've set the bar pretty high to get out of Texas in the playoffs now ... rise to meet the challenge.

Have a great Thanksgiving and good luck in finals ... Well Done, Men.

[tigerdadplm]

I went back to peak at the stats and it really pissed me off......so here we go

Off POY
a.clark-50 rec 700 yards-6tds
r.kelner-48 rec 598 yards-6tds
w.satterfield-63 ypg rush, 71 ypg passing, 13 tds
-satterfield is the only one I can live with here...when he came back uos was a different team.

snubbed
j.marks-190 rushes for 881 yards 4.6 per rush-16tds, lead the league in scoring?

Def POY
t.elson-40 tackles 4per game, 2 sacks  .2 per game does not make the top 10 list in the conf.  12 tfl's (decent)

d-hertel-54tackles, 7 sacks, 14 tfl's 2 forced fumbles, 1 int, 2 time POW in conf.   and not only was he not the player of the year......he was 2nd team.

This is a bunch of crap....whoever is to blame (rogers, other  head coaches, comish, ad's)  they should be ashamed of themselves.  Maybe RHIT has more sense (leaving the conf) than we think!

[tTU719803]

Hertel got robbed from being 1st team, but Dustin Allen should have been the Defensive player of the year.  There was no one who could block him.  What a bunch of crap.  And how does Marks not get consideration for OPOY? Ugh.  For such a "smart" conference, they sure seem pretty stupid.

[tigerdadplm]

Take Your Pic

[Pat Coleman]

Are we ready to kill off the SCAC offensive POY survey?

[tigerdadplm]

fine w/me

[Ron Boerger]

I think Pat's about to replace the OPoY survey, so here are the results:

Question:      Which player would you vote for as the Offensive POY in the SCAC

Jacob Cannon-TU - 4 (12.5%)
Jeremiah Marks-DPU - 10 (31.3%)
Wesley Satterfield-UOS - 3 (9.4%)
Robert Kelner-TU - 7 (21.9%)
Charlie Key-RHI  - 3 (9.4%)
Ross Wiethoff-DPU - 5 (15.6%)
Adam Blandford-CC - 0 (0%)

[historymajor]

The complaining has started.  This time it can't be said that it's coming from snubbed TU faithful.  Seems that the decision to cancel the trip to SAT (and not be willing to re-schedule) bit the DPU faithful hard!  TU had a great season, but was over-matched by UMHB.  Possibly a face-to-face meeting with DPU might have shown our weaknesses sooner, rather than later...  who will know now?  Too bad the game was not made up... then there may not have been anything to speculate about.  Maybe the "new" SCAC will be bigger and better than ever, and if DPU wants out... so be it.

[tigerdadplm]

history major-  I agree with most of your post , however, your tone is a little bit threatning .  If DPU wants out so be it?  What are you refering to? 

I think the DPU v. Trinity would have been a great game again!  I think you are suggesting that DPU was scared to play, canceled the trip and refused to try and reschedule.  I hope that is not what you are saying.  Because the corrected statement would read....DPU's administration took the advise of the parents and cancelled the trip, offered to reverse their tickets from SA to Indy, went as far as asking Chicago to play RHIT the next week all of which got the big veto from dpu, tu or the league.

I know the above to be fact...I don't know who said no to what after DPU cancelled but I do know this...Trinity did not want to travel to Greencaste...not because they were scared (I respect you more than that) but because they did not want to deal with the same uncertainty on their return trip that forced dpu to cancel.  I also know that chicago was asked to play RHIT (they said yes) but I don't know what happened after that.

Trinity is a great team that played a "so-so" schedule in the regular season and lost big to a great team in the 1st round (I picked them to play in the NC)

DePauw is a great team that played 2 playoff teams in the regular season...lost by small margins to both and did not make the dance.  My opinion Wesley will play UMHB tougher than anyone thinks they will.

Sounds to me like a match-up between the two would have been fun to watch...since that's what you and I a resigned to......WATCHING.

[tTU719803]

tigerdadplm - don't get upset at historymajor, he says stupid things a lot.  But what's all this about Trinity not wanting to travel to DePauw?  You do realize it's not that easy to just up and schedule a trip for 60-someodd people for a weekend on a days notice (which is what DPU gave TU).  I heard something about playing the game in Crawfordsville.  That is ridiculous.  Im not upset that it was cancelled, it didn't end up hurting us at all, I just don't understand why all of a sudden it somehow partly Trinity's fault for not flying up there.  The good news is that, from what I hear, DPU will come down to S.A. for next year's game.  It should be a good one, I'm looking forward to it already.

[DanSwan]

Impossible to travel a team on short notice.

[HunterT]

As a new poster and recent player, I'll keep this fairly short to avoid controversy.

The All-SCAC voting this year is laughable. The fact that there is a three way tie for OPOY (including a player that was not even mentioned on this boards poll), and a DPOY that has recieved no votes at all at the time of this post in our poll is a joke. I understand that we are only fans and have little implication on the way the voting comes out, but we can at least voice our dissapointment.

maybe it is personal frustration from not making the list, but it seems like I am not alone in my confusion.

[DPU_radio_guy]

Yeah...I think everybody (from every conf. school) is probably equally upset about the conference list.  I was certainly surprised to see Elston get the nod for DPOTY.  I think Hertel and Allen should have both been there, but I didn't see Allen this year, so I can't possible put one ahead of the other. 

I also had a hard time putting Adam Clark in the same conversation with Satterfield and Kelner.  Kelner is obviously deserving, and Satterfield had a few pretty decent games himself.  If anybody from Centre would have been in the discussion, I think it should have been Blanford. 

I was surprised to see that the coaches said that Blake Mears and Jerrold Jones as  good of a year as Jeremiah Marks did.  I can sort of see Jones, he was there when TU needed him because the TU QB's weren't exactly.... Dan DesPlaines.  I do think Mears is certainly a stretch. 

From a DPU follower's POV, Joe DiSalvo is a great player up front for DPU, but for him to get the nod and Hertel not, is puzzling to say the least.   I was very happy to see Kerry Pappas and Chase Jonason get the nod.  Both of those guys were very deserving.  Also, Sylvester and Berigan were both headscratchers as well. 

Finally, Rhodeskicker, I thought you got hosed.   Would have got my vote. 

[Tiger_Pride]

Radio_guy,

Since I'm under the assumption that you saw every game I was interested in your opinion on the following:

I was wondering how Clark got picked over Sylvester for 1st team. I was looking at the stats and not only did Sylvester lead his team in tackles with 65 (Clark had 54) but he also lead his team and conference in int.'s with 4 (Clark had 1).

   I was also wondering about Jonason getting first team WR over Culp. Culp had almost double the stats Jonason had.    Culp: rec- 35; yrds – 464 , Jonason: rec-19; yrds – 291

I know Jonason did have one more TD than Culp but I didn't know if that was a huge deal.  I do think that Jonason is a 1st teamer but why not have a TE spot instead of him taking a WR spot??

   I was also surprised Berigan wasn't at least a second teamer.

   I don't even want to go into Hertel's situation, or Marks not being OPOTY because I think we all already know its complete garbage.

Now I am a DPU fan and in no way and am I trying to take anything away from Clark and Jonason's accomplishments, I think both they and the other DPU guys selected are 1st  team material and well deserving of the awards. I just thought the other guys mentioned above were as well, based on stats and what I saw at games this season. So I was just wondering what your thoughts are.

One more thing... Do you think this has something to do with Roger's reputation in the SCAC?

[tigerdadplm]

PRIDE-  I have heard that it may have to do with rogers rep?  Don't know enough about it.

As the father of a former player, I do know this, my son felt that he should have been 2nd team all scac as a senior.  he went in to speak with the head coach and he said that if my son didn't get second team he (the coach) was to blame, the way I understand the voting process each team nominates their players then the coach&sid's vote on the entire list.  If you are nominated by your head coach you are given 2nd team automatically.  This may be an old scac rule, but this is how I understand it to be done.