FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

tTU719803 · November 23, 2005, 10:42:40 AM

Rhodeskicker - if you are their kicker from this season, then you didn't get hosed at all. Altman made 9 of 11 field goals, and all but one of his PAT's. Look at your game against Millsaps to see why you didn't get it.

tTU719803 · November 23, 2005, 10:45:31 AM

Also, Marks definitely got screwed. As a TU fan, I want to say Kelner should be the OPOY, but to me, those 2 games missed takes him out of contention. It should have been Marks all the way. The only thing I can think of is that the DePauw staf did not put him up for the award.

DPU_radio_guy · November 23, 2005, 11:10:13 AM

TigerPride,

short answers for all of your questions, as I'm off to St. Louis for a girls BBall game:

Clark is a good player...and a great friend to me (he lived next door to me freshman year) but I think Sly was better. Clark did make some great plays when the Tigers showed the 4-4 look, and he'd creep down from the safety position.

I think Coach put Jonason up over Culp because Jonason is (in my wholly biased mind) the best TE you'll find in DIII football. There wasn't a TE spot, so I imagine Rogers put Jonason up instead of Culpy. I don't know that for a fact...I'm just prognosticating.

Berigan is a player, and deserved SOMETHING. He's one of the best, if not the best, CB's in the SCAC. I certainly didn't see anyone (TU aside..of course) that deserved it over him this year.

As far as Coach Rogers goes...I don't know the ins-and-outs of the Trinity situation, but I probably would have handled it much worse than he did. The rumor mill tells me he tried to put up a plan that wouldn't bring overall record in for the tiebreak (opponents record instead.. which DPU ended with a hearty margin of victory in), which screwed DPU right from the start. Apparently, (again.. just rumor) all the other coaches and AD's shot it down and went to overall record. I'd imagine its probably pretty easy to lose some friends over a situation like that... especially (and I've learned this from being with teams when they go south) when you coach for that damn Yankee school to the North. Not all schools are like that...but I don't think DPU is exactly....welcome wherever they go. That's the feeling I get when I travel with them.

HunterT · November 23, 2005, 02:09:36 PM

ttu71...

I don't think at all that I should have gotten first team. Altman definately deserved that, he had an amazing season. Just a shame that this Trinity team was not the same as the ones that I've played against before, he could have had a lot more opportunities. My honest opinion is that I should have gotten 2nd team. The stats explain it all in my opinion. Especially for my position.

frank_ezelle · November 25, 2005, 11:18:26 AM

I guess this is a "better late than never" post. Earlier this year a link was posted here for Millsaps sports photos. Apparently a fair number of the football players were unaware that photos were being posted on the internet throughout the season. For those who are interested, here's the link to photos for all of the Millsaps sports programs and you just click on the football link and then the various photo albums from the season:

http://photobucket.com/albums/v283/Millsaps_Majors/

Each player should have received a Photo CD for the 2005 season. If you haven't gotten yours (check your campus PO Box), contact me and I'll get one to you.

etg · November 28, 2005, 08:13:23 PM

(El Tea Gray) ("The Texas Bracket"

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If SCAC + ASC is a "real bracket" we need to try playing some defense? In playoff football everyone knows "D" wins games!

I would really, really like to see TU's Black Flag take on Wesley's great offense (oh well, maybe next year). The last time the Tigers played Wesley in the playoffs the BF held them to 3 points (21-3 TU) in the rain.

I just can't wait to see next years edition of the Black Flag; if the Tiger offense can only jell during August.

historymajor · November 29, 2005, 07:15:18 AM

ETG (-11),,, I (-5) think you're right on the mark with your assessment of the BF's re-emergence and the needed maturity of the "O". Jake and Blake need to develop some confidence in the deep passing game and stretch the field. The O and D lines need to hit the weights over the winter and come back 20-30 lbs bigger/stronger and I think we'll be fine. I can't wait to see how the young running backs mature in the next few years too!

tTU719803 · November 30, 2005, 11:08:33 AM

The Tigers will have a lot of good young talent coming back on offense. The Baer kid should step in to grab the starting RB spot. He looked good in mop up time this year, he's going to be something special. I also hear there is another pretty good freshman RB on the TU scout team. Losing Kelner will hurt, but the WR's will still be loaded, and I heard there are some really good freshmen in the freshman class. The O-line will be the big question mark with only Farney set to return. Let's hope those young guys step up.

Bill McCabe · December 05, 2005, 07:08:33 PM

etg, I thought Trinity's defense was outstanding against UMHB. They may have been undersized compared to UMHB's line, but the defense was championship caliber. The o line had a hard time with UMHB's d line.

etg · December 05, 2005, 07:26:37 PM

Bill Mc,
You are absolutely right-on, that is the reason I said earlier that I would really, really like to see the TU Black Flag go against Wesley's great offense (against Whitewater's offense as well). The Tiger offense needs to gell this summer, if so 2006 could be another TRINITY year?

B/L Tiger · December 06, 2005, 01:15:43 AM

Quite a bit of offensive gelling for the kind of TRINITY season I think etg is referring to.

evacuee · December 06, 2005, 04:26:34 PM

Gelling is not this issue. They were at the top of their game in week 10. They didn't have the offensive fire power this year. The Tigers had two pretty good tailbacks, but neither was a game breaker like Boyce and I don't think either was even as good as Federle. I think JJ only had 1 touchdown. They did great WORK, which is great for a conference title. With so many teams competing for the same national title, you need fire power. You need home run hitters to win in the playoffs.

TU didn't have that in the backfield, and they didn't have it at WR, as evidenced by not scoring in the second half despite getting deep in UMHB territory three times. In truth, that can be attributed to the pass rush, but the Tigers really didn't have scorers among them. Even Kelner, who was really a good player, I think would have been an extra on some of the better teams that the Tigers have had.

What concerns me is whether or not the players believe they can win again in the playoffs. And hopefully, they won't get complacent with their stranglehold on the SCAC. It seems that the playoffs are the only true challenge for the Tigers right now, and it's tough to have to wait ten weeks to finally face that challenge.

Ron Boerger · December 07, 2005, 11:40:40 AM

I guess what I wonder is whether or not TU can get some team speed back on offense. The WRs weren't fast enough to get much separation which in turn led to the lack of a deep passing game. The running game was OK given that opponents didn't have to worry much about the deep ball (with the notable exception of TLU). I am looking forward to seeing what young Mr. Baer brings to the running game next season - I think he can be very good as a feature back.

There's a lot more competition for the D3 athlete in Texas these days. I believe that UMHB has drawn off a number of potential athletes given their recent success and good showing in last year's Stagg Bowl. Trinity's unfortunate trip to Salem, on the other hand, likely hurt recruiting. The ASC schools are focusing on their programs and getting some significant transfers from "upper" divisions (QBs Ty Sellars at McMurry, Adam Johnson at HPU to name two of the most visible). Trinity's costs are pretty high compared to its local foes ... the stadium is less than impressive (tho that will be addressed in the next couple of years) and then there is the difference in admission standards between Trinity and the teams it encounters in the first round. All those factors combine to make recruiting at TU a difficult proposition.

I also think that DePauw is building a very solid program under their new coach. Given their play this year they will be a challenge next season. If TU has ETBU on the schedule (which I have heard), that too will be a challenge before the playoffs!

Ralph Turner · December 07, 2005, 02:16:36 PM

BFB, I think that there are a large number of very good student-athletes who are attracted to strong academic schools like Trinity.

When my children were at Lake Highlands HS, they sent one-two players a year to the Ivy League on what looked like an "academic" scholarship with a specialization in Linebacker or defensive lineman. Yeah, their SAT scores and academic rec's were good, but we knew why they had gotten the invitation (and were happy for them).

All Trinity needs is 3-5 strong athletes with acceptable academic skills to fill the skill positions.

Once a Ty Sellers or an Adam Johnson has gone to a school, that "takes" out that school for consideration by another transfer until he leaves.

etg · December 07, 2005, 05:41:22 PM

B/L Tiger, Bonzo, TU2698,

IMHO "quite a bit of offensive gelling" = no 9 yard line fumble + no 2 interception runbacks + 2 more offensive TD drives. With both a good class and hard work in August this seems manageable for Coach Mohr and Staff. If so, this would yield a lot closer to the "kind of TRINITY season" that I referred to. Again, the Black Flag must lead the way.

Who really knows