FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

buckydunk · February 17, 2006, 12:45:52 PM

Well, I won't go into too many details, but when I said that some "Rhodes players took exception", I was being nice. You can figure out the rest.
Rose won for the first time at Rhodes this past year, so everyone was up after the game, while Rhodes (it was their homecoming) was the opposite... which led to the "mouthing". It was not a "fight" and was never going to be one, just a shouting match.

coachr · February 17, 2006, 08:42:53 PM

I watched that game, I saw someone get taken out, it appears that the right person learned a lesson at the end of that game. I do congratulate the Rose Hullman players, they were the better group that day. But I am pretty sure if I was on that field that day that loud mouth moron on Roses's sideline would have been taken out right after halftime. Some (not all) of their coaches were loud mouth jerks the entire game. But everyone has a right to act as they like, it just so happens that some people do have to pay the price for their actions.

tigerdadplm · February 17, 2006, 09:09:23 PM

Quote from: buckydunk on February 16, 2006, 10:01:33 PM
Renegade program... Marian college? They have never had/played football yet! What are you talking about? Coach(es) Karras' like to have fun... they played ball at Northwestern and still think that they can "whip" anybody. They are from the "region" in northwest Indiana and are typical "Bears" type guys. Against Rhodes this year after the game was sealed at the end... coach Ted and his brother Tony did their traditional "chest butt" and it was fairly close to some Rhodes players who thought that the Rose coaches were "mocking" them. They took exception and started to mouth the Karras', and of course, that is all it took! The (RHIT) players had to hold them back! Of note, Tony had to have knee surgery after the season because when he and Ted did that "chest butt" thing, he landed wrong and tore it up!

Renegade as in they are NAIA (Not Actually Intercollegiate Athletics)...the entire Karras family has little class and you have to look no further than your post. I enjoyed watching DPU put 60 on them this year. That staff deserved every bit of it. And as Karras hobbled off the field he could not contain himself from shouting curses at the DPU sideline. The guy is bad for college football in my opinion I don't care if he is from the "region" or not. My grandfather always told me that "the scared dog barks the loudest"

buckydunk · February 17, 2006, 09:46:46 PM

Probably mad about the DePauw starters being in well into the 4th qtr. when they had 60 on the board. Word is, that is why they are not playing anymore.

warriorhog51 · February 18, 2006, 01:45:01 PM

From what I saw Karras was not as big of a jerk on the sideline of the DPU game this year as he has been the last couple of years. Maybe DPU going up 21-7 with 12:00 left in the first made him decide that he was going to have to actually coach instead of just taunt DePauw's players and staff. DePauw and Rose are not playing anymore because Rose is leaving to go to the HCAC and Austin is coming to the SCAC in their place.

buckydunk · February 19, 2006, 12:13:20 PM

True about the schedule (see below) and the league switch, but Rose had a couple of open spots to fill this year.
Earlham has been the first game for awhile and that was not going to change. MSJ has been the second game for the last two years and will remain, but be a league game in 2006. Concordia had been on the schedule for the last two years, but that was suppose to end last year.
North Park was another surprise that showed up when the schedule came out.
The athletic dept. at Rose stated that in 2007, Rose will try to pick-up maybe Centre or Sewanee out of the SCAC again as a non-league game, because (I think) Concordia is only a one year thing. I think Rose fans were surprised that DePauw didn't remain. It is too bad, they are only 40 miles apart and makes for a nice "mini" rivalry. Too bad that the actions during and the competative nature of the game (on either side), effects decisions to not play in the future.

Sat., Sept. 2     Earlham College
Sat., Sept. 9    College of Mount St. Joe
Sat., Sept. 16    Concordia University (Ill.)
Sat., Sept. 23    at North Park University

tTU719803 · February 20, 2006, 11:46:05 AM

I think Rose would rather keep their powderpuff schedule (Concordia? Earlham?) than have a tough game against DePauw.

Chicago Freakshow · February 20, 2006, 12:58:50 PM

whoever this tiger dad is has to be messed up. first of all, depauw is the only D3 school who thinks they are #1 yet have never made it to the playoffs! Ha Ha!
And dont talk about rose's "powderpuff schedule". depauw didnt have the balls to play trinity. depauw was the scac champ by default. sure they did kill rose but chose not to play trinity! so you depauw poor souls, you aint got nothin to even whisper about.

Chicago Freakshow

tTU719803 · February 20, 2006, 02:34:10 PM

Don't even start about DePauw ducking Trinity. That had nothing to do with their team and more to do with the administration not wanting to send their kids down here to play.

Yes, DePauw ended up as co-champs, but I'm sure they would rather have played Trinity and risked losing that status for a shot at the outright title than not playing at all. That's more than you can say for Rose, who schedules some of the worst teams they can find, and then wonders why they get walloped when they play DePauw and Trinity.

TigerDad · February 20, 2006, 03:08:09 PM

Just a point of clarification ... "TigerDad" and "tigerdadplm" are different posters with different opinions, comments and styles.

"TigerDad" (that's me) is a Trinity dad and fan with no knowledge about nor comment on other SCAC coaches or their styles ... just thought I'd point that out.

Just a suggestion, "plm" ... you're certainly entitled to express your thoughts as you wish, but you might think about using a different post name to avoid confusion ... $:-\$

How about "Ralph Turnor" or "K-Mark"

warriorhog51 · February 20, 2006, 04:03:57 PM

DePauw's schedule was already finalized and only has one open spot for Austin to come in, and that's the vacancy that Rose made by leaving. DePauw is starting a home and away series with Anderson for the next several years, which is filling that week 1 opening where they played Welsey this past year. I am sure there are lot of people on both sides that would have like to keep the Rose-DePauw "mini" rivalry going. I am sure that one day it will get started again.
Also, Chicago Freakshow, I don't think you know anything about the DePauw-Trinity situation from this year. The decision was made by administrators late in the day on Thursday to not make the trip. If you ask any of the coaches or players I am sure they would have preferred to go, even with hurricane Rita on her way. Also, attempts were made to reschedule the game, but nothing was able to be worked out. So, don't say that Depauw did not have the balls to play Trinity because I am sure they would have played in the middle of the hurricane if they could have.

buckydunk · February 20, 2006, 04:23:15 PM

Quote from: ttu719803 on February 20, 2006, 02:34:10 PM

That's more than you can say for Rose, who schedules some of the worst teams they can find, and then wonders why they get walloped when they play DePauw and Trinity.

Since 2003, Rose has scheduled Wash U., Wheaton, Carnegie Mellon & Mt. St. Joe... yeah, I see what you mean, a bunch of cupcakes!

tTU719803 · February 20, 2006, 05:15:41 PM

Wash U.? Were they plaing them in the late 90's, because that's the last time Wash U was any good. Then there's Earlham, Concordia, and Oberlin whom they played a total of 7 times compared to twice for Carnegie Mellon and Wheaton (since 2003).

Is it a coincidence that their records have "improved" since 2003, or could it be due to the fact that they replaced CMU and Wheaton with Concordia and Oberlin?

buckydunk · February 20, 2006, 06:16:26 PM

You are the one who said "worst teams they can find". Rose schedules according to the athletes that they can recruit. That scope is limited to the curriculum. I think they do a good job of mixing the "good" with the "bad".

historymajor · February 20, 2006, 07:17:59 PM

Let's all get over the FACT that DePauw cancelled the trip to TU and was NOT able to reschedule it.

I have made my opinions clear that DPU gambled, and it back-fired.

So DPU is still hungry to GET to the playoffs and TU is hungry to STAY in the playoffs. RHIT is officially GONE, and AC is IN. Has anybody heard the definitive WORD on CC?

With a new voice from Chi-town on the board.... let's keep it friendly and look forward and NOT back.

I understand the recruiting difficulties that RHIT endures. TU doesn't necessarily appeal to the same engineering geeks, but has equally high admission standards. I'm told that 1300 SAT doesn't get you in to TU without many other +'s... go figure!