FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

I agree with Frank, TU2698. This becomes our business if he is declared ineligible, and not before.

[evacuee]

In hindsight I'll agree with that.   

[Pat Coleman]

That's probably a good idea. I remember how up in arms you got over your false assumption that I was accusing your alma mater of cheating somehow at home games. Imagine what it's like when Millsaps people read what you wrote, which is far more damning ...

[scaccommish]

SCAC Gridiron Weekly - Week 8
http://www.scac-online.org/football/102306footballupdate.pdf

[evacuee]

Okay, that wasn't about Millsaps, Pat.  Obviously you've not been faced with what I see daily around here which is high school graduates from small towns in Louisiana who can barely form a written sentence and I say that literally.  Here, on athletic scholarship, they get their hands held through the whole process and can barely stay in it.  I'm thrilled for the kid if he can make it at a school like Millsaps who's not going to provide those services, which is what I said before.   That's why it caught my attention.  The kid is performing a remarkable feat.  I was feeling totally apologetic about what I wrote until you had to stand up and beat your chest. 

[evacuee]

Frank,

That truly is not what I meant.  I've never had anything but respect for Millsaps as a school and I hope you recognized that in the face to face conversation that we had last spring in the hanger.  As for the player, read above.  If I have an accusation, I'm going to state it.  As part of my occupation, I have a deep rooted interest in student performance and not in cheating.  Still, I agree that his grades are not an appropriate topic of discussion in this forum and I won't mention it again.     

I think the anticipation of a big game in Jackson November 11th is probably getting people a little fired up. 

[Pat Coleman]

Perhaps that's a good note for you then as to how your previous comments can color how people perceive what you say later. I heard from two people who both thought I should have simply removed your post straight out.

[exmajor]

I just hope Millsaps' focus is on the week at hand at not three weeks from now.  I would not overlook Sewanee and espcially Rhodes, both home games for the respective teams.  We should reserve our chatter for Millsaps vs. Trinity until Nov. 5th or so.  If Millsaps does not take care of business it may be a mute point anyway.

[DPU3619]

Here's some news:

I was rolling hard through the mean streets of Greencastle late this afternoon when my old friends at WGRE reported that Tim Rogers has filed suit against DePauw University.

Haven't actually talked to anybody at WGRE with any info on the matter, just a story I heard over the air waves.

[evacuee]

For those of you that don't know, scholarship programs usually have an entire staff that is assigned to making sure the student-athletes remain eligible.  In the case of some that have never been held accountable for anything having to do with school, they are told precisely when and where to be every moment of the week, and are assigned tutors after having been told what classes to take.  Everything is paid for by the athletic department.  None of the schools in this conference has such a staff as far as I know, thus making student-athletes have to do everything "on their own."  If any grades have ever been given to student-athletes here, I know nothing about it and therefore would never claim it goes on elsewhere. 

[scacman]

Wow, BIG BROTHER is watching... PC Police meister....  TU2598 is a TU grad, who also happens to be in the Athletics Staff at D1 Tulane.  What he was trying to say (and he yhas alluded to it before) is that D1 scholarships athletes get unbelievable amounts of attention from people in his position to make sure that they attend classes, study, get all the help they need to stay out of trouble, and stay eligible.
No one that I know of from anywhere in DIII, let alone the SCAC can say that their admin offers those kinds of 'services' to student athletes.  He seems to know the area and the school and commented that he hoped at player FROM those environs, to those environs (Millsaps) would do well on his own,,, THAT'S ALL!!!!  Ease off Pat!

[tTU719803]

In hindsight I'll agree with that.   

Insert foot in mouth....

[SaintsFAN]

One thing has me curious.  Does anyone know how Juan Joseph is doing in school?  His high school's football program is incredibly good but the school is equally bad at getting all their great players into college.  We have one of his high school teammates here at Tulane, and he is one guy who's smart that was not ready for college.  If he's getting by on his own, good for him! 

Scacman,

to an unbiased observer, which I certainly am here, the above statement CAN be (and in my case, was) taken as a swipe at Juan Joseph because of the glowing endorsement of his High School teammate's readiness for college.  

I'm probably not the only neutral observer in agreement with both Frank and Pat's response here.  Its not a big brother is watching scenario-- imagine what kind of messages could be written on postpatterns, if there wasn't moderation of the board.

[DPU3619]

And now after a phone call or two, the rest of the details as I've been told.  This is from a few student journalists who've been doing some digging through records at the Putnam County Courthouse.

Right now, this below stands as a bit of hearsay, but it's what I know:

It seems that the suit alledges that there were some... discrepancies... between Coach Rogers and the administration on the philosophy of the hiring of assistant coaches.  It seems that the suit claims that the University was requiring Rogers to hire a certain number of (if not all) assistants that were minorities. 

Again, if I understand correctly, Coach Rogers wanted to be completely non-discriminatory in his hirings and hire his assistants based on other things than race.  It seems, according to what I've heard, that this discrepancy is what ultimately led to Coach's dismissal. 

I'm also told that there's some pretty damning evidence against the University in this situation.  My source seemed very surprised at some of the things that were unearthed.  I hope to get a peek at all these public records in the next couple days. 

Perhaps some of the things that the 4thandalong4 had to say aren't exactly that far off base.  Doesn't make me like him anymore, though.

[Li'l Giant]

Perhaps some of the things that the 4thandalong4 had to say aren't exactly that far off base.

I was thinking the same thing.