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depauwtigers1

Quote from: depauwtigers1 on October 25, 2006, 09:09:33 PM
DePauw won the SCAC.  How could the team be SCAC co-champs if TR was not ready for the job.  After the Tigers trounced Hope in 2006, the Hope Head Ball Coach told TR "That was the best coached DePauw Football Team he ever played."  It sounds like you have an issue with one recruiting situation.  That story does not sound like his recruiting style at all.  Just my personal opinion.

Sorry all, I meant the 2005 season, when DePauw played at Hope.

DPU3619

By the way,

Beat Centre.  That seems a lot more important to me than all the bickering I've done over the past day or two.

4thANDaLONG4

Hey Wes,

Alluding to our previous conversations, you know nothing of what it takes to play quarterback, let alone trombone.  Look at the stats all you want, your opinion is irrelevant.  Let the coaches decide.  I know more about coaching than you, and I gladly keep my mouth shut.  Both kids are good kids.  If I was a betting man, i'd bet on a DICK any time ( I realize I just opened myself up for some good ones).  Stick to the AM/FM dial "Disc Jockey."

depauwtigers1

Quote from: DPULefty22 on October 25, 2006, 09:40:32 PM
Quote from: depauwtigers1 on October 25, 2006, 09:11:24 PM
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Wow, convincing argument. Way to back it up with statisical analysis, visual observations, and the like... oh, wait a second...


Lefty:  2005 DPU 51  Millsaps 14
           2006 Millsaps 30+ something  DePauw 7
Is that enough Professor?  You must be a MW guy with a baseball tag of lefty?
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DPULefty22

Quote from: depauwtigers1 on October 25, 2006, 10:02:40 PM
Quote from: DPULefty22 on October 25, 2006, 09:40:32 PM
Quote from: depauwtigers1 on October 25, 2006, 09:11:24 PM
Wow, convincing argument. Way to back it up with statisical analysis, visual observations, and the like... oh, wait a second...


Lefty:  2005 DPU 51  Millsaps 14
           2006 Millsaps 30+ something  DePauw 7
Is that enough Professor?  You must be a MW guy with a baseball tag of lefty?

Close your quote tags, professor.

Me, I'm a believer that games are won and lost by players on the field, and I think DePauw had some better players on the offensive side last season, while Millsaps has much better players on all sides of the ball this season. That's a pretty specious argument you've made there, guy.

Also, I wasn't aware only baseball players could be lefties. But it's like I said, I'm not a Rogers guy, a Walker guy, a Lynch guy or a Morouzis guy. I'm a DPU football guy. That's it, and that's all.

4thANDaLONG4

Hey Lefty,

Did you play at DePauw?  I know a few leftys that played both.  I know where you are coming from.

DPULefty22

Quote from: 4thANDaLONG4 on October 25, 2006, 10:10:57 PM
Hey Lefty,

Did you play at DePauw?  I know a few leftys that played both.  I know where you are coming from.

I'm actually still a student here, but my playing days ended in high school. I've got no ulterior motives to speak of. As a member of the student media I've dealt with three different coaches since I've been here and I've found each man to be nothing short of accomodating and classy. That's where I'm coming from.

depauwtigers1

I agree with you Lefty.  But who is responsible for the development of a player?How does the player learn a stance, alignment, key, technique, and execution?  In my dealings with DePauw football, the people involved with the football program think like yourself.  I on the other hand belive that coaches are incredibly vital to the players development, and productivity.  Too many people at DePauw think that telling a player "it's a game of inches" and then roll the ball out and see what happens, is coaching.

DPULefty22

Quote from: depauwtigers1 on October 25, 2006, 10:15:50 PM
I agree with you Lefty.  But who is responsible for the development of a player?How does the player learn a stance, alignment, key, technique, and execution?  In my dealings with DePauw football, the people involved with the football program think like yourself.  I on the other hand belive that coaches are incredibly vital to the players development, and productivity.  Too many people at DePauw think that telling a player "it's a game of inches" and then roll the ball out and see what happens, is coaching.

You make a fair point, and one I won't dispute, about the importance of actual instruction from a coaching staff. But just as I'm not willing to judge Rogers's ability to do such a thing on one season here, I'm not going to judge Walker's ability to do such a thing based on less than one season here. And I don't necessarily think it's even my place to do so, considering I'm not in the locker room or on the practice field on a daily basis.

DPU3619

Quote from: 4thANDaLONG4 on October 25, 2006, 10:00:55 PM
Hey Wes,

Alluding to our previous conversations, you know nothing of what it takes to play quarterback, let alone trombone.  Look at the stats all you want, your opinion is irrelevant.  Let the coaches decide.  I know more about coaching than you, and I gladly keep my mouth shut.  Both kids are good kids.  If I was a betting man, i'd bet on a DICK any time ( I realize I just opened myself up for some good ones).  Stick to the AM/FM dial "Disc Jockey."

Look, dude.  It's just a discussion.  I'm just discussing it.  I'm not criticizing anybody, let alone you.  I'm not arguing that Spud should or shouldn't be in there on Saturday. 

I don't know what substance it is that is making you completely irrational but try real hard to understand this for me:  Football fans get together and discuss the game of football.  Sounds weird, I know.  I need you to hang in there with me right now, OK big guy?  That there are other people besides players that actually enjoy Division III football. 

Is my opinion irrelevant to Saturday's game?  Yup.  But it's got about as much weight as yours, Lefty, depauwtigers1, scotty, anybody else on this site, Coach Rogers, or the Easter Bunny's does right now. 

I am apparently missing the point that you are the greatest person and the greatest DePauw man that ever lived.  I'm a complete dunce because I didn't coach as long as the "legend" that is the son of a legend.  Just because your Daddy is who he is does not make you a great Coach or somebody that I should bow down as worship as "better than me" around these parts.  Write that down.

Coach Rogers is your boy and I'm fine with all that.  You feel some obligation to stick up for your friend.  It's kind of heart-warming, actually.

Don't get me wrong. I like the man.  He was kind to me when I helped him in spring ball and understood when I couldn't come back and be a student assistant in 2005. 

However, that's in the past.  I don't care about all that junk.  DePauw has a new football coach and your opinion of him is, as you say, "irrelevant". 

This team doesn't have a huge fan base around this board, and I'm trying to provide it.  I'm not sure why that's causing you to spout off all this silly babble about what I don't know.  I'll admit to not playing college football.  The term coach is also a very very loose one.  In fact, I was less of a coach and more of a film guy, but those are unnecessary details. 

I'd love to hear what you think about quarterbacking sometime, Tony.  You'd have so many revelations to open up my eyes to new parts of football I've never seen.  You mean forward passes are legal nowadays?  Well golly, I guess I sure do have a lot to learn.

DPU3619

Also, I, in fact, do not know how to play trombone.

frank_ezelle

I was watching part of the Tavis Smiley show last night and he was interviewing a conservative political writer.  This writer was angry at President Bush for abandoning the far right and he was urging all Republicans to vote Democrat this election or at least don't vote at all.  His logic, which I find twisted, is that the Republicans deserve to lose.

I thought about that after reading all of the recent DePauw posts.  Unless there are some of you who are intent on disrupting this year's team (which I doubt), I would suggest that you bury the hatchet and stop arguing about head coaches and starting quarterbacks.  It seems to have gotten to a point where it could only do more harm than good.

And now that I've given all the DePauw posters something that they can agree on, namely that I should keep out of their business, maybe we can talk about the games this weekend. 

The key game is obviously Rhodes at Trinity.  I don't know anything about the Trinity offense but in their last two games (both on the road) they scored 24 at Huntingdon and 17 at Centre.  As my only point of comparison, I saw Millsaps at home score 34 against Huntingdon and 38 against Centre. That may all mean nothing, but it seems to indicate that Trinity might not be quite up to their normal high standands on offense this year and that makes me think that Rhodes can win this game.

Rhodes seems to be extremely strong on defense this year.  Can the Rhodes defense hold Trinity to two TDs or less?  I think that's what it will take for Rhodes to win.  This is just my very uneducated guess, but I think the Rhodes scoring potential Saturday is 17 at the most and that's thinking that the defense might get a TD.  That puts a lot of pressure on the defense to play error free.  I think it is too much pressure and I see Trinity winning somewhere in the 21-10 range with one of the Trinity TDs coming from the defense or special teams.  Anyone else care to offer a prediction?
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Quote from: frank_ezelle on October 26, 2006, 08:38:13 AM
I was watching part of the Tavis Smiley show last night and he was interviewing a conservative political writer.  This writer was angry at President Bush for abandoning the far right and he was urging all Republicans to vote Democrat this election or at least don't vote at all.  His logic, which I find twisted, is that the Republicans deserve to lose.

Well he got his face time and now he will try to sell his own agenda. In that case, it was all about him.

Great post, Frank!

4thANDaLONG4

Point Taken Wes, guess I should post while having a beer.  By thew way I don't know much about football, but I was on role with the whole "Spud" thing.

scotty

Quote from: 4thANDaLONG4 on October 25, 2006, 09:52:24 PM
DePauwTigers1- They won the SCAC in 2005 not 2006.
Scotty- "Rogers was not ready for the position", you must be good friends with current HFC or a relative because that is what he was telling the Crawfordsville natives. I would be interested in what evidence exists that he was not ready. These are the facts that I am aware of: winningest coach in the modern era at Kalamazoo College, offensive coordinator at Cornell University who posted the biggest turnaround in Ivy League history while he was there and took the DePauw Tigers to an undefeated SCAC Championship in 2005. Why was he not qualified? How is the current ADEQUATE HFC more qualified?

i never have met Coach Walker...my comment about "not ready for the position" is based on my belief that a head coach at a Depauw type institution not only requires football coaching skills but strong people skills...
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