FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[SidApollo]

OK, I'm sure this has been explained, discussed, debated...over and over.

But I worked with Tim Rogers at Kalamazoo College, and just learned about a month ago that he had been "dismissed" at DPU. Now, I was looking at the Monon Bell thread, and I saw that he apparently, and it sound like rightly so, is suing the school for midhandling the situation.

Could someone who knows the situation inside and out please take some time to give me the inside scoop on what happened, or at least refer me to links or threads where it was explained.

I understand that the school is probably doing everything it can to keep it under wraps, but I know Tim Rogers would have done very well at DePauw, and I'm finding it hard to believe that they let him go.

Thanks so much...

[DPU3619]

Could someone who knows the situation inside and out please take some time to give me the inside scoop on what happened, or at least refer me to links or threads where it was explained.

If you've got some time on your hands, the explination and rather heated discussion that followed begins on page #125 of this thread and runs for a good dozen pages or so. 

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the situation sometime.  It'd be nice to hear from a former colleague who isn't waist deep in this mess.

I will say that his side of the story in the suit is the only side we know.  His side does indeed seem awfully "rightly so" for the moment. 

[frank_ezelle]

I'm sure there is a better way to insert this photo but I'm on the clock in 10 minutes.  Chris Jackson was the difference maker Saturday with 2 punts returned for touchdowns and a touchdown reception.  This photo is after the 2nd punt return and after this one Trinity was content to simply punt the ball out of bounds which resulted in great field position for Millsaps.  That's a stat that doesn't show up in the books but it is another way that Jackson made a huge difference.

That being said, it should be noted that all of the posts at the beginning of the season about the defensive scheme taking time to learn apparently were correct.  Millsaps allowed a touchdown fairly late in each half and they continued their theme of pressure creating turnovers.  The play of the defense is the most amazing thing considering the first 3 games of the season.

The offense was solid and I think they didn't run up a lot of yards partially because they were playing with a big lead and they didn't want to do anything that would slow down the clock or give Trinity a chance for a big play.  Tyson Roy was great in his brief appearance, but he went out early and Millsaps once again relied on freshman Kenneth Metzger who gave a solid performance in a huge game.

And to wrap things up:  (1) This was a great win because Trinity is a great program.  In my photos I included a photo of their banner that shows all of the SCAC championships and playoff appearances because it demostrates just what an accomplishment this was.  (2) Thanks to TU2698 for his compliment.  (3) I talked to Coach DuBose for the first time Sunday.  He is a very nice man and he says he is happy right where he is.  Yes, he could make more money somewhere else after this season but I hope he is ready to settle in one place where he can coach and have time for his family--I hope we are that lucky.  (4) And finally, I do have the photos from the game posted at the following link:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v283/Millsaps_Majors/ (go to Football 2006 and you will see the Trinity album)

[frank_ezelle]

Just a couple of added notes while I wait on a report to print.  Certainly Chris Jackson didn't get all of his return yards without help from his teammates but his numbers are impressive.  He returned the opening kickoff 49 yards.  The first punt he returned 67 yards for a touchdown.  Second punt was a 32 yard return.  Third punt was a 51 yard return for a touchdown and that was the last time they kicked to him.  That adds up to 199 yards of returns with 11:36 still remaining in the 2nd quarter and he also had a touchdown catch at that point.

For the Millsaps team, coming from a 1-5 SCAC record in 2005 to 6-0 in 2006 is quite a feat but it is even more impressive when you compare scores from year to year.  In 2005 Millsaps lost to DePauw 51-14, Centre 38-10, and Trinity 41-0.  In 2006 they beat these teams 31-7, 38-12, and 34-12 respectively.  While we are comparing road losses to wins at home, those are still improvements of 61 points, 54 points, and 63 points which is quite an amazing feat. 

Millsaps will have to play better on the road this week than they have in previous outings if they want to continue to round 2.  Hopefully Tyson Roy will be available for some action and hopefully receiver Eric McCarty will be closer to full speed to add another weapon to the passing attack.

[exmajor]

Frank,

CMU runs the wing-t offense and only passes when they have to according to their posters.  This will be quite a change from the offenses Millsaps has seen in the SCAC.

Now, from my quick research there are no direct links between Millsaps and CMU as far as common opponents go, but there are some common teams amongst the two schools when you dig a little.

CMU beat Colorado College 50-26
Colorado College lost to Huntingdon 21-14; Millsaps lost to Huntingdon 35-34
Colorado College lost to Rhodes 28-10; Millsaps beat Rhodes 14-6

CMU beat Chicago 27-0
Chicago lost to Depauw 31-6; Millsaps beat Depauw 31-7
Chicago lost to Wash U. 26-7

CMU beat Wash U 10-7 in 1OT
Wash U lost to Rhodes 6-3 in 1OT; Millsaps beat Rhodes 14-6
Wash U beat La Grange 31-21 (could go real deep here)

All this to say . . . well, not much, just some banter before the game and doing Kevin Bacon proud  . 

I hope Tyson Roy is healthy as well, in fact, Millsaps need everyone healthy.  CMU has the new field turf, so that should also be a nice factor for Millsaps.  Any other thoughts?

[historymajor]

BfB,,, my thoughts are that if any one conference has two schools THAT good, then one should be shipped out of region (as HSU was some years back)....  That way they don't face each other right away AND if they progress far enough might even meet up in the semis (saving a plane flight) or in the Stagg.

[Bill McCabe]

historymajor, you are trying to apply common sense to a nonsensical organization. 

[TigerDad]

Congratulations to the Millsaps College Majors football team ... 2006 SCAC Champs.  You guys played a helluva ballgame on Saturday and earned the title fair and square.  Good luck in the playoffs ... we will be wishing you all the best!  Don't just qualify this year ... GO DEEP.

Congratulations also to the Trinity Tigers ... fine season, men.  Just a bit short at the end, but then, almost everyone loses their last game ... just wish you could have played a few more, that's all.   Considering everything y'all had to overcome this year, you men did very well!  Congratulations especially to the seniors who have finished their football career ... you should all be very proud and pleased.

Work hard in the classroom, get rested (and healed) up ... then hit the weightroom and the track for next season.   We're backing you all the way, Tigers.

[exmajor]

The weather in Pittsburgh on Saturday is calling for a high of 48 with a few showers, Sunday it drops to 41 with rain/snow.  Looks like it will be cold, but not as bad as it could be for Millsaps!

[Ron Boerger]

NEW POLL

Can the doughty Major Men of Millsaps overcome travel, weather, playoff inexperience, AND the undefeated Carnegie-Mellon Tartans to post the SCAC's first playoff W since 2002? 

Or will CMU finally beat a good team?   

PS - Kudos to the one person who picked the Majors in a blowout last week.  Who woulda thunkit??

[BDTartan]

exmajor, one thing the weather report doesn't give you is the fact that CMU's campus is on Forbes which runs pretty parallel to the river system over there.  There is a sharp wind at times that sweeps off the river and runs right through Gesling stadium making it seem about 5 to 10 degrees cooler.  Also, that wind factor may play a role in the kicking game and possibly Millsaps pass game.  The fact of the matter is, you just never know about the weather in that section of Pittsburgh.  I've sat in the stands in jeans and a T-shirt for a half and then had to run to the car to get a hoody at halftime.

[consultant]

Nice insight about the potential weather conditions at Gesling by BDTartan.  It's nice to know that Millsaps will be playing on a synthetic surface that they are used to.  That will certainly help the Majors feel more comfortable.  Also, the wind factor can play a role in Jackson, too.  A portion of the Millsaps campus is situated on the highest point in Jackson.  The baseball field is the exact spot.  The football field is in a valley so to speak just below the baseball field.  Wind finds its way down into the valley and can contribute to some bad kicks from time to time.  It was rather windy for some of the Trinity game this past Saturday.  In any event, Millsaps will have to keep their composure this weekend with the newness of the events.  I hope that take time to enjoy the experience and take care of business.

Millsaps will be flying to Pittsburgh on Friday. 

[BDTartan]

Well, if they were planning on doing any sightseeing, there is plenty to do in Pittsburgh.  In fact, CMU's campus offers some things to see.  They have an excellent art museum.  Not to mention the world's most painted object, according to guiness, right in the center of campus.  Its a fence the students use for announcements.  I bet there is 2 foot of paint on the fence.

[consultant]

Some fun notes:

Let's build a stage:  Carnegie-Mellon has a phenomonal engineering school and started the first university program in drama.

Andrew who?  Andrew Carnegie insisted that his name be pronounced Car-NAY-ghee rather than CAR-nih-ghee.

Tastes like Sugar:  Perhaps CMU's most notable football highlight was winning the Eastern football championship in 1938 and then losing to Davey O'Brien and the National Champion TCU Horned Frogs in the Sugar Bowl.  Back then, CMU was known as Car-NAY-ghee Tech, and TCU was actually eligible to win a football national championship.  There was no threat of snubbing by a BCS oligarchy.  

They'll outwit their opponents:  As each of the member universities places a stronger emphasis on academics than athletics, this conference is sometimes referred to as the "Nerdy Nine" (even though there are now only eight members, four of which play football).

Brandeis University
(Judges)

Carnegie Mellon University   (Football)
(Tartans)

Case Western Reserve University (Football)
(Spartans)

Emory University
(Eagles)

New York University
(Violets)

University of Chicago  (Football)
(Maroons)

University of Rochester
(Yellowjackets)

Washington University in St. Louis  (Football)
(Bears)

[consultant]

FEED ME

Okay BDTartan....help us out here.

Any truth to this?

Primanti Bros. Sandwiches -- the most famous meal in Western PA so I hear.  Primanti Bros. is open 24 hours and (I think) 7 days a week.  An entire order of french fries is served INSIDE the sandwich.  Darn good eats....I think the Majors should all eat a meal there.  Cheap, too...right?