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Li'l Giant

Quote from: TigerDad on April 21, 2007, 07:55:57 AMIndeed.  And the Benson-UIW football announcement comes on the heels of recent news reports that University of Texas at San Antonio (UTSA) is also considering adding a football program ... this one to be NCAA Division I! 

Getting crowded in the Alamo City!

As a St. Mary's alumnus it bothers me that they're leaving themselves out of the football conversation. Why StMU wouldn't want to take their rivalry with UIW to the gridiron is beyond me.

Of course, the status quo has always been good enough for St. Mary's.
"I believe in God and I believe I'm gonna go to Heaven, but if something goes wrong and I end up in Hell, I know it's gonna be me and a bunch of D3 officials."---Erik Raeburn

Quote from: sigma one on October 11, 2015, 10:46:46 AMI don't drink with the enemy, and I don't drink lattes at all, with anyone.

Ralph Turner

Senior Abilene Reporter-news columnist Bill Hart speculates that UIW could join the Lone Star Conference as a full member for the sake of football scheduling.  I wonder if the invitation has been offered.

That departure would put big pressure on the Heartland Conference to find another (non-football-playing) member. 

UIW might give the LSC's TAMU-Kingsville a travel partner is the conference needed to adjust the format for scheduling games.

As for talent, I still maintain that there is more talent "burned-out" or sitting on benches to fill vacancies than we can imagine.  It is an attitude change about D3 that we need to inculcate into student-athletes in Texas.

Warren Thompson

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Quote from: Li'l Giant on April 22, 2007, 09:57:02 PM
Quote from: TigerDad on April 21, 2007, 07:55:57 AMIndeed.  And the Benson-UIW football announcement comes on the heels of recent news reports that University of Texas at San Antonio (UTSA) is also considering adding a football program ... this one to be NCAA Division I! 

Getting crowded in the Alamo City!

As a St. Mary's alumnus it bothers me that they're leaving themselves out of the football conversation.

There was a time when the Rattlers did play football. In the 1930s ands 40s they had some very competitive teams and travelled across the country in their own bus. In 1916 they had a coach by the name of Eisenhower (he later went on to gain a bit of fame, as I recall).

Li'l Giant

Quote from: Warren Thompson on April 23, 2007, 06:56:09 AMThere was a time when the Rattlers did play football. In the 1930s ands 40s they had some very competitive teams and travelled across the country in their own bus. In 1916 they had a coach by the name of Eisenhower (he later went on to gain a bit of fame, as I recall).

The team photo featuring Eisenhower is displayed prominently in St. Louis Hall (the administration building now) on campus.

And while that's a proud history, it's still just history.
"I believe in God and I believe I'm gonna go to Heaven, but if something goes wrong and I end up in Hell, I know it's gonna be me and a bunch of D3 officials."---Erik Raeburn

Quote from: sigma one on October 11, 2015, 10:46:46 AMI don't drink with the enemy, and I don't drink lattes at all, with anyone.

Warren Thompson

Li'll Giant:

If UIW gets Benson greenbacks for football, perhaps St. Mary's can prevail upon fellow-autodealer Red McCombs to fund its program.  ;)

Ralph Turner

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Quote from: Warren Thompson on April 23, 2007, 08:00:06 AM
Li'll Giant:

If UIW gets Benson greenbacks for football, perhaps St. Mary's can prevail upon fellow-autodealer Red McCombs to fund its program.  ;)
Actually Mr. and Mrs. McCombs have been significant benefactors of Southwestern.  He formerly served a Chariman of the Board of Trustees. :)

Note the 2 buildings named for the McCombs.

Warren Thompson

Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2007, 08:44:33 AM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on April 23, 2007, 08:00:06 AM
Li'l Giant:

If UIW gets Benson greenbacks for football, perhaps St. Mary's can prevail upon fellow-autodealer Red McCombs to fund its program.  ;)
Actually Mr. and Mrs. McCombs have been significant benefactors of Southwestern.  He formerly served a Chariman of the Board of Trustees. :)

Then perhaps McCombs could fund a revival of football at Southwestern.  ;D
The institution dropped the sport sometime in the 1950s, I believe.



jaycee

DPU 3619, I hoped you joined me in celebrating the announcement that Bottoms is retiring. Word is already out that this WILL NOT be an internal hire as many feel changes need to be made. This is the first domino to fall. Expect Jimmy to be next, he is not exactly popular on campus or with the alums/trustees. Cotton will not want to go through change and retire.

If the powers that be do it right (replacing those just mentioned), DPU Football may finally reach it's potential.

Li'l Giant

Quote from: Warren Thompson on April 23, 2007, 08:00:06 AM
Li'll Giant:

If UIW gets Benson greenbacks for football, perhaps St. Mary's can prevail upon fellow-autodealer Red McCombs to fund its program.  ;)

Bill Greehey has been St. Mary's sugar-daddy. The athletic center and business school are named for him. He has given something like $30 million to St. Mary's over the years. I guess he doesn't like football. ;)

Quote from: Warren Thompson on April 23, 2007, 08:53:53 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2007, 08:44:33 AM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on April 23, 2007, 08:00:06 AM
Li'l Giant:

If UIW gets Benson greenbacks for football, perhaps St. Mary's can prevail upon fellow-autodealer Red McCombs to fund its program.  ;)
Actually Mr. and Mrs. McCombs have been significant benefactors of Southwestern.  He formerly served a Chariman of the Board of Trustees. :)

Then perhaps McCombs could fund a revival of football at Southwestern.  ;D
The institution dropped the sport sometime in the 1950s, I believe.

I read somewhere that McCombs played football at Southwestern and transferred to Texas when Southwestern dropped football. Of course, he gave UT $50 million to name their business school after him.
"I believe in God and I believe I'm gonna go to Heaven, but if something goes wrong and I end up in Hell, I know it's gonna be me and a bunch of D3 officials."---Erik Raeburn

Quote from: sigma one on October 11, 2015, 10:46:46 AMI don't drink with the enemy, and I don't drink lattes at all, with anyone.

DPU3619

Quote from: jaycee on April 23, 2007, 11:10:14 AM
DPU 3619, I hoped you joined me in celebrating the announcement that Bottoms is retiring. Word is already out that this WILL NOT be an internal hire as many feel changes need to be made. This is the first domino to fall. Expect Jimmy to be next, he is not exactly popular on campus or with the alums/trustees. Cotton will not want to go through change and retire.

If the powers that be do it right (replacing those just mentioned), DPU Football may finally reach it's potential.

I most certainly did, my friend.  While everybody was celebrating some bike race on campus this weekend, I took the opporunity to enjoy the end of this troubled tenure.  I am happy to hear that the hire will come from somewhere else.  I had not heard that yet.  I was a little nervous that if/when Bottoms eventually chose to hang it up/got fired that Abraham or someone else in the Cabinet would get promoted. 

The sooner the entire Cabinet turns over, the better.  Not just as far as football is concerned, either.  Better for the entire University and its current student body, as well.

tTU719803

Quote from: DPU3619 on April 20, 2007, 10:55:50 AM
Seems like Coach Mohr does this just about every summer nowadays.

Might "Hurricane Steve" move its course across 281 to Incarnate Word?

On one hand, scholarship football would be great for San Antonio, but too bad it has to be offered at a joke of a school like Incarnate Word.  Unless you're going to be in health care, that place is worthless.  You might as well get a degree from Phoenix Online.

I don't see why Mohr wouldn't want that job.  He does a great job recruiting at a place that is very tough to recruit kids to now...imagine what he could do with scholarships to offer!

evacuee


What type of kids want scholarships to "worthless" schools?  I think Coach Mohr is still at the D3 level because he appreciates the pervasive mentality that student-athletes are students before they are athletes.  There is a massive difference in attitude when you throw scholarships in.  Certainly not all, but most guys on scholarship to play football are looking at the NFL.  They might have absolutely no shot, but if they are going to go to a "worthless" school because they can play football on scholarship, classes are probably not at the top of their priority list, and such a mentality breeds all types of problems, both on the field and off.   

That said, I don't mean to speak for him.  I'm sure he's thought this issue through, and I'm curious to know what his position on it is. 

Warren Thompson

Is UIW truly "worthless," as claimed above ... or are we being treated to some snobbishness from their neighbors on Hildebrand Avenue?

Li'l Giant

Quote from: Warren Thompson on April 24, 2007, 01:38:36 PM
Is UIW truly "worthless," as claimed above ... or are we being treated to some snobbishness from their neighbors on Hildebrand Avenue?

I suspect the latter.
"I believe in God and I believe I'm gonna go to Heaven, but if something goes wrong and I end up in Hell, I know it's gonna be me and a bunch of D3 officials."---Erik Raeburn

Quote from: sigma one on October 11, 2015, 10:46:46 AMI don't drink with the enemy, and I don't drink lattes at all, with anyone.

Warren Thompson

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Quote from: Li'l Giant on April 24, 2007, 02:48:34 PM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on April 24, 2007, 01:38:36 PM
Is UIW truly "worthless," as claimed above ... or are we being treated to some snobbishness from their neighbors on Hildebrand Avenue?

I suspect the latter.

So do I, and I'm a Trinity grad (from back in the Dark Ages when Trinity was struggling to define itself academically and assaying big-time football by, e.g., playing the likes of Mississippi Southern, Texas Western, and Mississippi State).  :'(