FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Ron Boerger]

  If you don't want to hear them, then don't ask.

There's a distinct difference between my disagreement with your reasoning and my not wanting to hear it.  Take it easy.  We both know that wasn't what I meant.

The last time I checked, this is a board for the discussion of such issues that we may disagree on.  And I was trying to discuss it with you.  But now I'm done because that's how your going to be about it.

Free country and relatively free board, do as you like.  Please note that your first response basically stated that I was "short-sighted" and "ignor[ant].   

[LA Major]

I do believe momentum is going to be a factor in the Millsaps-DPU game from the  kickoff.  The Majors are balanced with equally talented O and D with noticable improvement/development each week. I have been to the games mentioned and smart, hard nosed football most often creates turnovers. I think the Majors will win because this is a more seasoned mature team with a better understanding of what their coach expects of them. If I am wrong DPU wins in a close game. I personally believe Millsaps  will take care of their business in Greencastle.  This would be a big win for DPU but  Millsaps is focused on a championship and this is the next step. Both teams have something to prove.

[DePauwDad]

First off, thanks for the classy postings from DePauw and Milsaps fans. I cannot wait to see this game and I think both teams wil leave it on the field. I agree  with the hope that all leave the field physically intact.  I threw a score out to stimulate conversations, but I wouldn't want to bet on this game. Good players on both sides. Good luck to all.

[INQBScout]

First off, thanks for the classy postings from DePauw and Milsaps fans.

You beat me to it...I have been impressed (surprised?) at the posts regarding the DePauw-Milsaps matchup...entertaining with good  football perspective...partisan, yet lots of knowledge...and a level of respect...not like some of the juvenile jibberish that occassionally makes its way in here...

[TigerDad]

I hope you will enjoy the following article reprinted from (without permission, but with full and in-advance credit given to) The Onion, a satirical and quite hilarious website ... this seemed appropriate given the witty reparte of the past couple of weeks on this-here SCAC topic.  Enjoy!

You Will Suffer Humiliation When The Sports Team From My Area Defeats The Sports Team From Your Area

The Onion, April 18, 2001
sourcelink: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33426

As you can see from the calendar, the game is coming up this weekend. I'm sure you are as excited for it as I am, as our cities are rivals and have been for quite some time. Your confidence in your team is high, but rest assured, you will suffer humiliation when the sports team from my area defeats the sports team from your area.

On numerous occasions, you have expressed the conviction that your area's sports team will be victorious. I must admit that every time I hear you make this proclamation, I react with both laughter and disbelief. "Ha!" I say to myself with laughter. "What?!" I say to myself in disbelief. How could you believe that your sports team could beat my sports team? It is clear that yours is inferior in every way.

When the sporting contest begins, the players on your team will be treated as though they are inconsequential. It will be remarkably easy for my team to accumulate more points than yours. There are many reasons for this, starting with the inferior physical attributes of the players representing your area. Strength, speed, and agility are just three of the qualities that the players on the team from your area lack. The players representing my area, on the other hand, have these traits in abundance.

I would not be a bit surprised if the individuals on the team from your area were sexually attracted to members of their own gender. That is how ineffective they are on the field of battle.

Underscoring your team's inferiority is its choice of colors. It is ludicrous to believe that your team's colors inspire either respect or fear. Instead, they appear to have been chosen by someone who is colorblind or, perhaps, bereft of sight altogether. The colors for my team, on the other hand, are aesthetically pleasing when placed in proximity to one another. They are a superior color combination in every way.

While we are on the subject of aesthetics, let us compare the respective facilities in which our teams play. While my team's edifice is blessed with architectural splendor and the most modern of amenities, yours is a thoroughly unpleasant place in which to watch a sporting contest. I know of what I speak, for I once attended a game between our respective teams in your facility. Let's just say the experience left me wishing that my car was inoperable that day due to mechanical problems, rendering it impossible for me to get to your area to attend the game.

If you need another reason why the sporting franchise representing my area is superior, look no further than the supporters for the two sides. Not only are the supporters of the team from my region more spirited, but they are also more intelligent and of finer breeding than you and the rest of your ilk. In addition, the female supporters of the team from my area possess more attractive countenances and figures than yours. Some of the women from my side that I have observed could make a living by posing for pictures for major men's magazines. The women who cheer for your team, I'm afraid, are far too unattractive to do so.

One of the more pathetic aspects of the team from your area is the fact that only people in your immediate area possess an affinity for it. By means of contrast, the team from my area inspires loyalty and affection in individuals who live in many other geographic locations.

To illustrate this point, let me tell a brief story: Recently, I was on vacation in an area of the country far away from my own, and I saw many individuals wearing items of clothing that bore the insignia of my team. I approached one such individual and asked him if he originated from my area. He said no, explaining that he simply liked the team from my area and had for many years. Interestingly enough, during this trip, I saw no clothing or other paraphernalia bearing the insignia of your team.

Do you still doubt that the team from your area is inferior to the one from mine? Just look at our teams' respective histories. In the past, we have defeated you on any number of occasions. Granted, there were times when your team beat my team, but those were lucky flukes.

The day of the game will soon be at hand. And no matter how hard you pray to a higher power or how many foam accoutrements you wear in support of the team from your area, your team will be defeated. We will win and you will lose. This is your fate.

Prepare for humiliation. It shall be upon you at the designated hour.



Oh, and best of luck to all SCAC teams ... may you play your best injury-free games ...

[Just_that_kid]

TigerDad: That was funny! Great post, and definately fitting! Because Millsaps SEEMS to have more bloggers, does that mean we have the slight edge? 

[DPU3619]

Free country and relatively free board, do as you like.  Please note that your first response basically stated that I was "short-sighted" and "ignor[ant].   

Hmm.  That's not what I said, but you've done a fine editing job.  You choosing to not put weight in factors of this game by ignoring them does not make you ignorant and you know it.  Absolutely no reason to accuse me of such, Ron.  Come on.  Seriously.

I find it hard to believe that you'll accept one game's end result and pass the rest off as irrelevant.  I'll call that being short-sided about it.  You're the one who brought up the blinders argument, and from the way you've spoken, you're completely disregarding the previous results.  And if you want take offense to that, then let it be.  My sincerest apologies for trying to debate you on it.  It's not an insult to your character.  I just think it's awfully unfortunate to not be talking about the team that's STILL leading the conference in offense despite the score of last week's game.

I don't think a team can be fairly estimated as good/bad by the result of one game when they're missing one of the few reasons that make them a good football team.  And it seems to me that you disagree.  And that's fine.  Nothing wrong with it.  However, if you didn't like the opinion I posted, but don't want to defend yours, then don't respond in the first place.

[Ron Boerger]

'3619, I think you've stated your position, I've stated mine, neither of us have shown much interest in modifying them, and so there's not much point in further discussion.   You seem to think the only thing I'm paying attention to is last week's results when I've been following this conference since the site was opened, talked with all the coaches over the summer, picked Marks as the preseason MVP in Kickoff, et cetera.  OK, that's your perogative.   

May the best team win on Saturday.   

[Tex]

As an over-the-hill O-lineman,,,,  I can honestly say that I don't mind the accolades, but instead of relish, just give me mustard and onions!!!!

Most o-line guys I know would rather have a trip to IHOP over a bunch of pub. 

I take photos of my son's high school team in action.  I always take more line photos, both O and D, over anything else.  It does drive a few parents nuts, but it's the way it is. 

[Tex]

Oh yeah... losing sucks. 

My son's played for a team that has won a lot of HS games the past two years.  This year, lots of young players, brutal schedule, and they find themselves 0-4 going into district play. 

Trinity is a great education, but for my son and his buddy, they're sick of losing.  Trinity is looking like a great option, a winning option, for both of them. 

Milsaps-DePauw....  all your kids want to win this one.  All that "win or lose, ... " I know is the way your "supposed" to look at it.  But, for those kids, it's win or nothing. 

Was is Lombardi that said, "Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser"?

[oldmoose]

I think the quote is, "Show me a good and gracious loser, and I'll show you a failure."

Knute Rockne / Notre Dame

[Just_that_kid]

Tex: In the SCAC, it's win or go home. One loss could end your playoff shot.

To the rest: Now now gentlemen. Let's be civil. We can agree to disagree, but it's all of and games. Either Millsaps and DePauw will learn a lesson in humility this weekend.

...and some of us will also. We'll see how these predictions pan out.

[historymajor]

Tex,,, I'm not a big IHOP fan... just point me to the 'pub'

[roocru]

Oh yeah... losing sucks. 

My son's played for a team that has won a lot of HS games the past two years.  This year, lots of young players, brutal schedule, and they find themselves 0-4 going into district play. 

Trinity is a great education, but for my son and his buddy, they're sick of losing.  Trinity is looking like a great option, a winning option, for both of them. 

Milsaps-DePauw....  all your kids want to win this one.  All that "win or lose, ... " I know is the way your "supposed" to look at it.  But, for those kids, it's win or nothing. 

Was is Lombardi that said, "Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser"?

Tex, Don't limit your options to Trinity.  Your son and others could be the ones to help turn the Roos into winners.  They are not that far away right now in my estimation.  They might play a lot earlier as well! 

[Josh Bowerman]

The academics are just as strong at Austin College as at Trinity, too.  Biggest difference is the engineering at Trinity, though AC has a 3-2 program.

In Texas, AC can't be beaten, IMO, for it's foreign languages and pre-med, pre-law programs.

Just my humble .02 worth, though I'm admittedly more than a little biased.