FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[DePauwDad]

Can anyone update me on the nature of the Marks injury?  Will he be back?

I gather he's getting better.  I heard it was a bruised knee and that it was a bit more serious than first thought.  I haven't heard either way what his status is for this weekend, but it's only Monday.  Even if I do hear, there's nothing saying it's right.  Missed the bullseye entirely on the Millsaps game.

I would agree that the information is not reliable. Marks injury has been much more significant than originally thought. Also, the injuries to other key starters has played a significant role in DePauw's recent struggles. They missed key starters on both defense and offense against Millsaps and again Saturday at BSC. #31's absence gets the press (as it should), but #47 and others are sorely missed.

[cush]

Rollins at the d3 level for football would be a monster considering the talent in the state. As for travel, the school does have a nice endowment, i think something like 300m + you got southwest airlines going into orlando, which probably isn't much more than a bus in group fares. No doubt they would be a nice addition  to the scac but that sure would spread the league more but if colorado college can do it, so could rollins.  Of course,  rollins could also follow the path of wofford at the d1-aa level in the southern conference, if they really got serious about a football program. It seems wofford is riding the coattails and $'s of the the carolina panthers into d1-aa so maybe rollins could hook up with an nfl team to offset the cost. Yet, given the size and nature of wofford, i would think suiting up against  the likes of Sewanee and rhodes would be a better fit + they wouldn't have to give out scholarships.  I guess this all goes back to a lack of d3 football in the south, something that could be fixed  if rollins, wofford, emory, hendrix,  and  centenary ever get the football bug.

[Ron Boerger]

Probably this story:

http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stories/100207add.html

Thanks, Pat.  Knew it was familar for some reason.   

As Pat's story points out, part of the reason for the slump is facing more difficult competition, and last year's senior class, not this year's, was the first. 

[Ron Boerger]

Rollins at the d3 level for football would be a monster considering the talent in the state. As for travel, the school does have a nice endowment, i think something like 300m + you got southwest airlines going into orlando, which probably isn't much more than a bus in group fares. No doubt they would be a nice addition  to the scac but that sure would spread the league more but if colorado college can do it, so could rollins.  Of course,  rollins could also follow the path of wofford at the d1-aa level in the southern conference, if they really got serious about a football program. It seems wofford is riding the coattails and $'s of the the carolina panthers into d1-aa so maybe rollins could hook up with an nfl team to offset the cost. Yet, given the size and nature of wofford, i would think suiting up against  the likes of Sewanee and rhodes would be a better fit + they wouldn't have to give out scholarships.  I guess this all goes back to a lack of d3 football in the south, something that could be fixed  if rollins, wofford, emory, hendrix,  and  centenary ever get the football bug.

Rollins has a pretty long history in D2 ... numerous national championships in tennis and golf (and water skiing!) ... don't see them really going the D3 route.  Pity because academically and from a size perspective they are really a much better fit in the SCAC than where they are now. 

Also, air travel is *much* more expensive than bus travel, especially given the distances SCAC teams have to travel.  Their travel budget in the SCAC would dwarf their current budget given that they're playing a bunch of other FL teams now and are smack dab in the middle of the state so nothing is too far to begin with. 

I've said this before, but the SCAC said a couple of years ago that they wanted to grow to twelve schools and now they have.  Just don't see them taking anyone else on but to replace someone who wants to go elsewhere.   

[SaintsFAN]

Probably this story:

http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stories/100207add.html

Pat,  who wrote THAT garbage??   


Nice work...good to see a D3 column out there...

[Pat Coleman]

It's not my best work but they wanted to have D-III presence on the site again and were willing to change some things from the last time I wrote for them in order to make it work.

[Matt Gaunt]

I heard Mark's has a quadriceps contusion (read: big bruse in the front thigh muscle).  I would think he'd be back in another week or two if he's been following the athletic trainer's orders.

[jekelish]

I don't disagree with the general direction you're coming from, Kent, but like the fact that the games are free of charge.  I'm afraid that, at this point, we'd have even fewer fans than we already do if we were to charge, and the gate receipts wouldn't be generating more than a thousand or two at the most anyway.   

oh I definitely have no problem with the games being free, but w/just a little effort, they could make a decent amount selling snacks.  Right now I think our only options for purchase are hot dogs, school lunch size bag chips, a couple different candy bars, prepackaged nachos, M&Ms, water and coke.   I just wonder what all it would take to bring in things like personal sized pizzas, burgers, more than one soda choice etc etc etc.


but besides that, I wonder which of our facilities need upgrades.  Our tennis courts are getting moved and redone and the baseball field FINALLY is no longer a joke.  I guess the soccer fields could use some stands but I don't know how everyone else does it.  I kinda want to get our LAX program moved up to varsity from club and am trying to get a bunch of my buddies that played (i was merely their team heckler) to get some money together but right now thats just a pipe dream.

i'm late jumping into this conversation, but FYI Kent, the AC athletics department doesn't handle the concessions.  it's all Kiwanis, with the athletics department not getting a dime out of it.

there used to be an admission charge, but at the end of the year the cost of the tickets themselves along with the cost to pay staff to sell the tickets didn't result in nearly enough money to make it worthwhile, so they scrapped ticket sales altogether.

[KentATM]

thanks for the info Jekel.  I knew the money from concessions went to Kiwanis but I didn't realize the school had pretty much nothing to do with it.  I will have to figure out who to get in touch w/then b/c they really need to give us more options.  I have been to little league baseball games that have better choices.  That shouldn't happen no matter how small your college is.

When did they last charge for tickets?  I don't remember them charging as far back as 01 (unless I crashed the gate and didn't know)

[KentATM]

whoever wins that game will lose to AC and the loser will beat them.

just my guess.

[KentATM]

i mean that if Trinity beats DePauw, AC will beat Trinity and lose to DePauw.

if DePauw beats Trinity, AC beats them and loses to Trinity. 

I have no good reason to feel this way.  I just do.

[DPU3619]

What is the thinking of the group on the Trinity - Depauw game this Saturday?

I just don't know how healthy DePauw is going to be. 

No word on Marks. FB Brett Claxton missed Saturday yet again.  DL Mike McNelis didn't play against BSC.  I also don't see CB Reed Scherer in the box, which makes me think he didn't play.

That's going to be a big part of it.  How many of those guys are going to go?  DePauw needs all hands on deck, and if they don't have it, it's going to make it an uphill climb.

[Ron Boerger]

I can't figure this weekend out at all. 

Trinity historically is not a great road team; in the last six or seven years all of their regular-season losses but one (against then-NAIA power Azusa Pacific) have come on the road.   Last week's loss to Rhodes falls into that pattern, plus it was the first time in over a month they had left the confines of San Antonio - and the competition during those weeks, with the exception of Colorado College, were sub-.500 teams. 

DePauw has also struggled the last three weeks without Marks, and from the discussion here there have been other injury issues.  It would not surprise me, though, to find out that some of the folks who did not play last week were held out to get better for this week's game.  It's important to note that the two narrow wins in the last three weeks were both on the road.

So ... both teams need to win to keep playoff chances alive.   DePauw is the one upper-tier SCAC program to never defeat Trinity, but is this finally the year?   A healthy Marks would be a huge help. 

One thing you can be certain of:  the Tigers will win.   

[Bill McCabe]

Ron,  who would you say is the favorite today to win the conference?  What are the key games coming up?

[Ron Boerger]

Since seeing them in week 2 and given results to date I would have to put Millsaps in the driver's seat.  This week's Trinity@DePauw game dictates what the key games are the rest of the way.  If Trinity wins, it's Trinity@Millsaps; if DePauw wins, it's DePauw-Wabash because Millsaps would effectively have a two game lead on DPU and Trinity, and I think DPU can win out if they get healthy and possibly get a pool C bid with a defeat of Wabash in the Monon Bell game. 

With respect I don't see 1-1 Rhodes, 2-2 Austin, or 2-2 Centre being in the mix.