FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[redman04]

I'm sure you have been talking about this for pages, But just saw this on espn's website and I thought I would share! 



http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3083220&categoryId=2378529

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Just so you all know, Coach Mohr was on ESPN2's First Take just a short time ago. The show airs live from 10 AM - 12 PM EST. If you missed it, it reairs from 12-2 PM. You will see Coach Mohr in the 1-1:30 PM time-frame. However, they are showing and talking about the play the entire show... even asked Jim Fassel his thoughts on it (remember, he was the Offensive Coordinator for Stanford in the Cal-Stanford game that had "The Play").

[KentATM]

Is it good stuff? I understand TU's joy of pulling an important victory out of dire circumstances. I do think that TU players and staff are to be admired for not giving up until the final horn...and beyond. But is this good for the TU or Millsaps programs or the SCAC? This conference needs better competition across the board. To have the potential  AQ with a loss to Rhodes, that has again shown it has a long way to go to improve and DePauw still trying to find itself, will TU  go very deep in the playoffs? They still have to win 2 conference games and they should. Obviously this is a tough loss for Millsaps and every game counts in the season. It is a demanding effort to build a program and have it mature over time. The Majors will pull together to bounce back but it is a tough week in Jackson and for us who care about those players. Personally I know there are life lessons here for these men and it's too bad life lesson have to hurt so deep. I am not sure it is good stuff for Millsaps or the SCAC maybe for TU. I watched it live and now on video and I have the same feeling...please excuse me I am going to throw up.

The publicity its giving the two teams and by extension the conference is a great thing.  People will go online to look the two schools up and many will end up at the SCACs main page and will see all the other schools and perhaps each will get a couple students they other wise would not have. 

[formerd3db]

TU2698:

Your last sentence absolutely says it all.

[evacuee]

This is without a doubt a great thing!

It was a total brawl of a game.  So physical and tightly contested full of great efforts.  The winning play wasn't luck.  It was a great play by guys who refused to quit.  We should be so fortunate to see a game of this magnitude end this way. 

What is going to be tough is playing next week.  It's always tough to play the week following a huge game, but how does a team come down or back up after something like that happens?  I said last week that both teams would be flat, but obviously I never could have foreseen this. 

The SCAC is still up for grabs in my opinion.  If anyone has a shot to beat either team, this weekend is it.   Trinity at least doesn't have to travel, but their last conference home loss was to Centre in week 10, and the trip to Sherman isn't going to be any stroll through the orchard.  Get it?  Apple Field?  Oh I'm a riot. 

[evacuee]

Frank, maybe you could offer some insight here.

Official numbers show that 4032 people were in attendance in Jackson.  Last year's number was around 3700, and there's no way there were as many people this year as were there last year. 

Anyone know anything about that?

[DPU3619]

Frank, maybe you could offer some insight here.

Official numbers show that 4032 people were in attendance in Jackson.  Last year's number was around 3700, and there's no way there were as many people this year as were there last year. 

Anyone know anything about that?

Isn't there a different SID from this time last year?  That would be a good place to start.

4000 to somebody may not look like 4000 to somebody else.  *shrug*  That'd be my guess.

[MajorAlum80]

Its not a "great" thing.  People like the freak show play....they don't care about the teams.  Sportscenter didn't even bother to learn how to pronounce Millsaps ("Millsap") and said that Mike DuBose coached for Trinity.  People outside of those who keep up with D3 aren't saying "Did you see the laterals in the Trinity-Millsaps game?"  They are saying "Did you see that crazy lateral play on Sportscenter?"  No one has even bothered to say that the play determined the conference championship.

[DPU3619]

Its not a "great" thing.  People like the freak show play....they don't care about the teams.  Sportscenter didn't even bother to learn how to pronounce Millsaps ("Millsap") and said that Mike DuBose coached for Trinity.  People outside of those who keep up with D3 aren't saying "Did you see the laterals in the Trinity-Millsaps game?"  They are saying "Did you see that crazy lateral play on Sportscenter?"  No one has even bothered to say that the play determined the conference championship.

Then what is it?  Nothing?  A worthless waste of our collective time?

If that's the case, then why even try to promote Division III football?  Why should anybody other than players, students, parents, and alums care about what we're all doing here?  Why run the selection show on ESPNEWS?  Why put the championship on TV?

I'm sorry, but getting D3 out there whenever it's possible seems to be a good thing to me.  Maybe some people still think it's a bit of a novelty with that one Ohio team who wins all the time, and that's too bad.  But, I sure hear a lot more about it than I did five years ago.   

I say that, and all of the other attention D3 gets, is certainly positive.

[MajorAlum80]

Wes,

I think you misunderstood what I said.  Of course, I think any attention D3 gets is good and I wasn't saying that this was a bad thing for D3.   I was saying that I don't think the play will bring much national attention to D3.  The national attention is going to the strangeness of the play....not the teams.

[Ron Boerger]

Given that the last time Trinity got "national attention" for D3 was for having a QB suspended the week before the Stagg Bowl, I'll take this.  Every story I've read or seen has stated it was a D3 match up. 

[INQBScout]

The national attention is going to the strangeness of the play....not the teams. 

...and that's far better than no attention at all.  The enormous visibility this has received is very positive. sure, it is the "strangeness" of the play----but all of the attention is quite good in my opinion...

[INQBScout]

...and it was just the final story on ABC World News Tonight...

[Ron Boerger]

...and it was just the final story on ABC World News Tonight...

I just got an email from my brother saying that NBC also closed with it. 

[KentATM]

Its not a "great" thing.  People like the freak show play....they don't care about the teams.  Sportscenter didn't even bother to learn how to pronounce Millsaps ("Millsap") and said that Mike DuBose coached for Trinity.  People outside of those who keep up with D3 aren't saying "Did you see the laterals in the Trinity-Millsaps game?"  They are saying "Did you see that crazy lateral play on Sportscenter?"  No one has even bothered to say that the play determined the conference championship.

I completely disagree.  First off, Sportscenter initially got some things wrong however all day today ESPN has not.  I have heard both schools get mentioned many many times all day today (and yesterday)

Trinitys coach was even on First Take in an interview (that was replayed a few times this morning).  Skip Bayliss who I normally can't stand DID know this game was important in the SCAC race and DID start throwing off some facts about the school and then Pat McEnroe also gave Trinity credit for being a tennis power at one time.

It is good pub for both schools involved as more people have now heard their names and at least a few are likely to look them up and discover a bit about them and the conference. 

Oh, and that play DID NOT determine the SCAC championship b.c there are still a few games to play.  Won't you feel silly when AC derails Trinity and you realize that you guys have won the conference? (if you win out of course)