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Ron Boerger

I agree.  It's all been said. 

Trinity folks should go back in time about one year to realize how the folks at Millsaps feel this weekend.   Time to start worrying about how in the world to deal with UMHB. 

Tex

So, does anyone give Trinity a chance against UMHB?
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evacuee


Trinity has as good a shot at this one as they did whe...nevermind.

Tex

Quote from: TU2698 on November 11, 2007, 07:45:04 PM

Trinity has as good a shot at this one as they did whe...nevermind.


Hey!  none of that, none of that! 

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TigerDad

Congratulations to the Millsaps Majors on a fine 2007 season ... y'all have really helped put the SCAC in the spotlight this year and accomplished some great things.  A quick look at the SCAC conference stats shows the Majors proud.  Well done, men.  Two rings in a row proves you are legit.

If I came to Jackson, that's what I would tell you.  Nothing more needs to be said.
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Carl Menist

Quote from: TigerDad on November 11, 2007, 11:53:51 PM
Congratulations to the Millsaps Majors on a fine 2007 season ... y'all have really helped put the SCAC in the spotlight this year and accomplished some great things.  A quick look at the SCAC conference stats shows the Majors proud.  Well done, men.  Two rings in a row proves you are legit.

If I came to Jackson, that's what I would tell you.  Nothing more needs to be said.

Thank-you for your kind words and our congratulations go to Trinity as well.

In regard to the upcoming game I have no question as to weither Trinity can line up and play with UMHB. In fact, there are some areas that I think can be attacked and exploited were I think Trinity has mismatch advantages.

It goes without saying that a fine game will have to be played by Trinity to win, but that is what it should take to move on in the playoffs. Following is a post I made 4 weeks ago after seeing the UMHB - Mississippi College game in Clinton:

Went out to Clinton to see the Chocs play the #2 MHB Crusaders this afternoon on the afternoon of the Millsaps open date. Nine or ten of the Majors came out to see the game as well.

Kind of expected to see something like the New England Patriots based on the scores of MHB's games, their ranking and the hype. If I had not seen the game myself, ( 62 - 17 at the end of the third quarter), I would really wonder if MHB could be played with by just a very good D III football team and would further think that MHB was in the wrong league, maybe should be in D-1AA or at least D-2. This is not was I witnessed / observed today.

They have a fine team, good size linemen on both sides of the ball with good speed --- but  they did not look invinsible!

Trying to be objective, I really think MC could have played the game much more closely and even thought early in the first half, after they had been down 14 - 0,that they possibly could come back and win.

Didn't happen though, the Chocs got blown out.

Just an opinion, but in my opinion, MHB is beatable. They are a great team, but they are beatable.

Of note were at least 6, maybe 7, runs of over 75 yards for TDs. A turnover or two that translated to quick TDs for the Cru. All part of the game but I think the Chocs could have done better, much better at adjusting to stop the replication of a track meet type afternoon of rushing the ball and they could have taken better care of the ball when they had it.

For instance, on defense. MC had 9 people up tight in the box  for a while resulting in the "off to the races" off tackle dives and traps fo rthe Cru. Once the back hiit the hole and broke through the line, no one was there or even had the chance of getting there on an angle to make the tackle or slow the runner --- nobody. This may be somewhat understandable for one or two plays, but not 6 or 7. DOn't get me wrong, the backs were good --- good speed, but not NFL prototype 6"3 225 monsters that could fly. The primary back was no more than 6' tall, and weighed 180. A running back that a good D-3 linebacker, corner or safety should be able to tackle. MC made no adjustments in the first half and the consequences were devastating.

On offense, mismatches with the 6'4" MC wideout against the 5"8 or 9" Cru DBs were not fully exploited in my opinion.This was particularly noted in the first half when MC got the  ball on a turnover down in the red zone.  Seems like some kind of fade or fade comeback with a 6'4" versus 5' something 155 lb DB should have been at least tried.

I know it looks allot different from the stands, but getting lit up for 6 or 7 off tackle rushing TDs is something I have never seen and would not expect to see between two good college football teams.

The Cru were impressive, but I really think MC could have done more to counter act their strengths and successes in this afternons game.. I think that MHBs next opponent will make adjustments to stop the 75 plus yard TD after TD runs.

I also think any representative from the SCAC that might end up against "The Cru " in the NCAAs will make them win with something other than a bunch of 75 and 80 yard romps. Be it Steve Mohr from Trinity or Mike Dubose from Millsaps, my guess is they will have a defensive scheme that will not allow 6 75 to 80 yard rushing TDs.

MHB looks tough, very tough, but not invincible in my opinion.

Itis just too bad for MC that they couldn't have represented themselves better this afternoon. I think they have a better team than the score, stats showed for today.

In conclusion, I am satisfied that D-III is a proper classification for the Cru and that other good D III teams should be able to and can play with them.

Just an opinion, but in my opinion, MHB is beatable. They are a great team, but they are beatable.


Good luck Saturday and I hope your son has a great game. He certainly could inflict allot of punishment on the UMHB corners if he can get outside in space and be a big factor in the outcome.

I know you are proud of him. He is a very fine player.





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DePauwDad

I have been walking on air since the finish of Saturday's Monon Bell Game and haven't monitored this board. It appears  I have missed some spirited banter.

First off, thanks to everyone that posted some love for DePauw. Our team really struggled with injury this year and we all would like to "what if". The bottom line is that injuries, bad decisions, miracle plays, and funny bounces are why we strap on the helmets and play the game.

I am bummed that the SCAC only gets the automatic bid, because we deserve more. I think we at DePauw could do some damage now that we are healthy, but that is not going to happen.

I wish Trinity much good fortune as they carry our banner.

Just_that_kid

(Ponders) Politician...? Thank you! I've been called much worse things on this board!
Now I know there are several conspiracy artists in here and those who love taking what I say and making them out to be another, so in the most genuine and passive way I possibly can, I'm going to have to let some of you down.
At no point have I made any excuses for any losses this season. What's done is done. Millsaps had two losses this season and that's all that matters when it's said and done. You are 100% right about that. It is unfortunate.
That said, though, the point I was making, in my opinion, was a legitimate one. MC beat Millsaps, and so did Trinity. I was whole-heartedly congratulating both of those schools for their win. Regardless of what happened during the game, both of those squads (MC/Trinity) gave 100% until the very end, and should definitely be commended for their victories. I was being sincere in my praise, and if you choose to make it more or less than that it is, that's your choice. Regardless, my congratulations to MC and Trinity for fine wins and a fine season.
That said, my point is valid, and not even directed toward anyone. It think it's would have been something to consider if I were in the position to give pool C bids. I apologize that the statement was offensive, but again, it wasn't intended as such.
Without taking anything away from MC or Trinity (with all sincerity), if you truly believe that the MC game would have had been the same if Millsaps starters had played it through, I would like to meet your dealer. As for the Trinity game, well, the Man upstairs was looking down on them for 2 seconds long enough. There were at least three lateral blindly tossed perfectly into another's hands, and a perfect bounce. It was a once in a lifetime chance, and they pulled it off. It was an amazing play (despite not working out how I would've liked it). Moreover, honestly, have you seen my karma? Let's be serious now...
And about the quitting... If you've ever been a part of the game you'd probably know that no team that good, in the big of a game (Conference title/homecoming) is going to quit. Some cramped, some thought it was over, I'm sure there are tons of reasons and "excuses", but I truly doubt that anyone just decided that they didn't care anymore. Yes, quote DuBose to justify remarks, but truly think about what you're saying. What player in this world, especially non-scholarship D3 athlete would just quit in a game like that?
Lastly, I wish Trinity the best of luck. I hope they can represent the SCAC well. I just wish that other quality teams (Millsaps, DePauw, MC, etc...) from the real south could join Trinity in the endeavor...

Ron Boerger

9-1 will get a 2nd SCAC bid.  We just need to have the runner-up try that one year!

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Just_that_kid on November 12, 2007, 08:53:29 PM
Yes, quote DuBose to justify remarks,

No offense, kid, but it's not justification, it's evidence. Who knows better than the coach?
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Carl Menist

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2007, 09:15:57 PM
Quote from: Just_that_kid on November 12, 2007, 08:53:29 PM
Yes, quote DuBose to justify remarks,

No offense, kid, but it's not justification, it's evidence. Who knows better than the coach?

How many people have said things in the heat of the moment and later rethought what they said and apologized. It takes a big person to say I am sorry and that I made a mistake. I sure have.

It is my observation that that has happened at Millsaps and the coaching staff and team is moving forward in a positive way.

Like you just said, "who knows better than the coach"?

All in all, there have been allot less mistakes made as compared to right decisions over the last two years.

Now, as SCAC fans lets see how the Tigers can do over the next few days and hopefully weeks, get a little break and then get ready for next year. Should be a good one!

How about two SCAC and two ASC teams in the playoffs next year --- something POSITIVE  to shoot for!!



Just_that_kid

Truely, this is ridiculous. I compliment two teams and their work ethic, and IM made out to be the trouble maker. I think a few people in here need to look in the mirror and quit nit picking over everything I say--especially when it's not even the point of what I'm talking about.
It's been fun this season, and I will stay posted. Good luck to Trinity. I hope next year we'll have several SCAC and ASC teams able to make it. Be safe folks...

DPU3619

Came across this on YouTube.  About a minute worth of celebration after the Bell game.  They pick the Bell up off that cart thing and take it to midfield.

Whoever took this film did so from the Wabash side.  They also seem very pleased to post it.  Interesting.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Wes Anderson on November 12, 2007, 10:23:01 PM
Came across this on YouTube.  About a minute worth of celebration after the Bell game.  They pick the Bell up off that cart thing and take it to midfield.

Whoever took this film did so from the Wabash side.  They also seem very pleased to post it.  Interesting.
Carl, it is all about the Bell!

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