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exmajor

Tex,

I agree with you and Ron about the ongoing SCAC vs. ASC debate, Ron is right in that MC needs to show more than an 8-2 season before being crowned better than any SCAC team and UMHB is the class of the two conferences when it comes to football currently.  I don't think Dubose was thinking too much about how we on the boards would take his comment about the level of competition and maybe he is setting himself up here, but the bottom line is this should be a great game between two very talented teams this year!

As far as your feeling towards Dubose, I personally care more about whether he "boinked" (have not heard that one in awhile) his sec. or not and how he has handled that situation since because that is a measure of character.  Despite his x's and o's philosphy in the past and his football decisions at Alabama, he has proven he can coach football at Millsaps.  It is ultimately more of a concern whether he can help instill good character traits in young men, most all of whom will not be playing football past college.   

Josh Bowerman

Coach DuBose's comment is a bit on the ballsy side, I'd have to agree.  His personal issues aside, I think that he's given the DIII community more than ample ammunition to question his professional decision making process during his tenure at Millsaps--and comments like this, while great for newspaper sales, do lead one to wonder what is going on in that head of his.  Even with all of that taken into consideration, I do think that the Coctaws are competitively comprable to both Trinity and Millsaps, at least this year. 

It should be pointed out, however, that Mississippi College has been picked to finish third in the conference by almost everybody who knows anything about the ASC.  I point that out lest anyone get fished in by the preseason top 25 poll.

Having seen both play last year and knowing what they've got coming back, I give MC's offense a very slight edge of Millsaps defense.  I give the Major's offense a very significant edge over the MC defense, however. 

If Coach DuBose has learned anything about DIII football in the past year, he will play his starters the entire game.  And, in doing so, the Majors ought to walk away with a victory.  Not a blowout, but something in the 7-10 point range, in my estimation. 

That's the way I see it happening, at least.

"Without struggle, there is no progress."--Frederick Douglass

Tex

Quote from: exmajor on September 03, 2008, 02:05:23 PM
Tex,

I agree with you and Ron about the ongoing SCAC vs. ASC debate, Ron is right in that MC needs to show more than an 8-2 season before being crowned better than any SCAC team and UMHB is the class of the two conferences when it comes to football currently.  I don't think Dubose was thinking too much about how we on the boards would take his comment about the level of competition and maybe he is setting himself up here, but the bottom line is this should be a great game between two very talented teams this year!

As far as your feeling towards Dubose, I personally care more about whether he "boinked" (have not heard that one in awhile) his sec. or not and how he has handled that situation since because that is a measure of character.  Despite his x's and o's philosphy in the past and his football decisions at Alabama, he has proven he can coach football at Millsaps.  It is ultimately more of a concern whether he can help instill good character traits in young men, most all of whom will not be playing football past college.   

My basic point was that he is prone to popping off, saying things I believe he ends up regretting and that a dark cloud tends to follow him.  Character does matter, I 100% agree with you.  As a parent, you place your son into the hands of a coaching staff for 4 years.
"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son." -- Dean Wormer

AF4

being a closet Auburn fan ...heck.... no closet... they fed my family for a long time... so being an Auburn fan....and having lived in UCLA for a good while... i'm enjoying the dubose discussion like a drunk monkey

tex mention class and that fellow in the same sentence..... i never would.

last years MC loss... the first verbage out of his mouth after the miss miracle... (some one else brought up his secetary at bama...i ain't going there as that would b a bryant tradition)...northview highschool in dothan (although he did rebound at luverne).....  i never thought much of him after ed scissom fumbled the ball for bama at the end of a game, Auburn recovered kicked a field goal and won.... and he literally threw scissom and coaches (he fired them.....not his fault..even if he is the head coach) under the bus

win or lose...it don't matter.... i am proud he now resides in mississippi

(did anyone here feel my strong opinions...welcomed or not)

good luck in the scac this yr.... i will pull for yalls champ to compete well in the dance (even if it is a dubose coached team)

keep the faith
"Have laparoscope, Will travel"

Ron Boerger

Quote from: AF4 on September 03, 2008, 04:31:44 PM

good luck in the scac this yr.... i will pull for yalls champ to compete well in the dance (even if it is a dubose coached team)

keep the faith

Amen to that.  Been too long since we got a W in the postseason.

AF4

u no..... i re read my message.... and all i can say is i was way to hard on dubose

he knows more about football in his little fanger than i do in my whole dumb body....


sorry for the outburst of tempory insanity...i am given to fits of stupidity.. it comes with 28 yrs of standing behind a mare and trying to put your hand in her fanny..... i been kicked one toooo many times

keep the faith
"Have laparoscope, Will travel"

DPU3619

Quote from: AF4 on September 03, 2008, 07:29:01 PM
it comes with 28 yrs of standing behind a mare and trying to put your hand in her fanny..... i been kicked one toooo many times

Gotta say I've got absolutely no idea what to make of that.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Wes Anderson on September 03, 2008, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: AF4 on September 03, 2008, 07:29:01 PM
it comes with 28 yrs of standing behind a mare and trying to put your hand in her fanny..... i been kicked one toooo many times

Gotta say I've got absolutely no idea what to make of that.
AF4,

Yeah, I know what you mean! :D

Tex

Quote from: Wes Anderson on September 03, 2008, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: AF4 on September 03, 2008, 07:29:01 PM
it comes with 28 yrs of standing behind a mare and trying to put your hand in her fanny..... i been kicked one toooo many times

Gotta say I've got absolutely no idea what to make of that.

Haha, I'm worried to report I understood it perfectly.  :)
"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son." -- Dean Wormer

golden_dome

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Quote from: Josh Bowerman on September 03, 2008, 02:45:57 PM
It should be pointed out, however, that Mississippi College has been picked to finish third in the conference by almost everybody who knows anything about the ASC.  I point that out lest anyone get fished in by the preseason top 25 poll.
Josh,
   I would disagree with that statement. HSU was picked ahead of MS College by one point in the ASC preseason poll, which is voted on by 27 of the most knowledgable ASC people consisting of coaches, SID's and media. So the votes were split pretty much 50/50 between the two schools for 2nd and 3rd place. I don't think I would say that is "everybody" voting MS College 3rd.  I personally consider MC third in the ASC until we're able to beat either UMHB or HSU, but the preseason poll was pretty much split down the middle on MC and HSU. Having said that, I think HSU will be greatly improved this year and MC will have to be that much more improved to finally beat them.
    The MS College/Millsaps game this weekend should be a great one. Two very good teams deserving of Top 25 consideration. MS College has steadily improved the last three years with Coach Joseph and will put another very good team on the field Saturday. Millsaps will also have a very good team, I was impressed with what I saw of them last year. After UMHB, I think Millsaps, Trinity, HSU and MC are all very closely bunched.

Josh Bowerman

Well, the two teams will get to settle it on the field in a few weeks, Chris.

Dave Campbell's Texas Football and this site also picked them third, though, so one point or not...
"Without struggle, there is no progress."--Frederick Douglass

golden_dome

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Quote from: Josh Bowerman on September 04, 2008, 12:31:55 AM
Well, the two teams will get to settle it on the field in a few weeks, Chris.

Dave Campbell's Texas Football and this site also picked them third, though, so one point or not...

Like I said, I personally would continue to put MC third until they are able to knock off HSU or UMHB, they have owned the Choctaws. The HSU defense was not normal for the Cowboys last season and I doubt it happens again this year. They will be very much improved and we already know HSU is going to put up a lot of points.

MC was third in Dave Campbell's book and on the Kickoff Preview. The Top 25 poll had MC a bit higher and the ASC preseason poll was pretty much split. I just wouldn't say everybody knowledgable about the ASC had MC third, or that MC's ranking is the result of uninformed voters.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: Chris Brooks on September 04, 2008, 12:11:44 AM
Quote from: Josh Bowerman on September 03, 2008, 02:45:57 PM
It should be pointed out, however, that Mississippi College has been picked to finish third in the conference by almost everybody who knows anything about the ASC.  I point that out lest anyone get fished in by the preseason top 25 poll.
Josh,
   I would disagree with that statement. HSU was picked ahead of MS College by one point in the ASC preseason poll, which is voted on by 27 of the most knowledgable ASC people consisting of coaches, SID's and media. So the votes were split pretty much 50/50 between the two schools for 2nd and 3rd place. I don't think I would say that is "everybody" voting MS College 3rd.  I personally consider MC third in the ASC until we're able to beat either UMHB or HSU, but the preseason poll was pretty much split down the middle on MC and HSU. Having said that, I think HSU will be greatly improved this year and MC will have to be that much more improved to finally beat them.
    The MS College/Millsaps game this weekend should be a great one. Two very good teams deserving of Top 25 consideration. MS College has steadily improved the last three years with Coach Joseph and will put another very good team on the field Saturday. Millsaps will also have a very good team, I was impressed with what I saw of them last year. After UMHB, I think Millsaps, Trinity, HSU and MC are all very closely bunched.

I thought this was quite reasonable, +1 Chris.

KentATM

having watched AC constantly get smashed when they were in the ASC versus becoming far more competitive in the SCAC makes me think the ASC is tougher top to bottom.

Now perhaps Coach Gage really is THAT good which gets me even more excited for this year but thats pretty much how I feel about it.

Carl Menist

The Millsaps Football Pregame show is scheduled for 7:00PM CST tonight and can be heard through the following link:

http://www.atwsportscast.com/Colleges/Millsaps%20College.htm

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