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(El Tea Gray---re: Trinity's 1st Half Penalties and BSC Stat Sheet Errors)


I counted either 107 or 108 yards in penalties for Trinity in the 1st Half. That would leave 5 or 6 yards in penalties for the Tigers in the 2nd Half!

Also, the BSC Stat Sheet has confused Robert Davidson SO QB with Johnny Landino SO DB; as well as confusing Kyle Lewis SO RB with Brandon Grenier SR DB. Davidson and Landino both are listed as wearing #16 and Lewis and Grenier both are listed as wearing #24; they however are not on the field at the same time as one plays "O" and the other "D".

Good win, "O" cranked-up in the 3rd Qtr and the "Black Flag" really made it's presence known in the entire 2nd Half. As in years past; four games are in the books and the team is just about where it needs to be.


                                                                         

[TE4SAPS80]

CONGRATS to Rhodes on the Suprise win, I'll will even admit that they proved me wrong this week.  Just like I said though, never count them out. Also Congrats to Millsaps on the big statement over DePauw, they continue to amaze me.  I watched the whole game online, and they were dominant on both sides of the field.  DePauw's only scores came from a long chunk and on the last play of the game.  Most people can't help but look at the great offense, but the defense might be all the more amazing when you think about how others have faired against them.

[DPU3619]

Worst loss This ties the worst loss for DePauw in 12 years. They lost to Albion in 1996 by a 51-9 score. 

I don't think they played very well today, obviously, but even if they did, I don't know how much of chance they had against Millsaps.  Very rare you see Spud go something like 8-23.  He's much more accurate than that.

Millsaps is a REALLY good football team.  Like Top 10 good.

[frank_ezelle]

"How good is Millsaps" is a very good question.  Last year the Millsaps Men's Basketball team gave eventual national champions Washington a tough game on the Bearcats home court before losing in the final 8.  This came just a couple of years after the 2006 Millsaps baseball team was one out away from making the D3 World Series.  I guess it isn't farfetched to think that the Millsaps football team might be good enough to be included in the discussion about national championship contenders, but I don't have the knowledge needed to give a confident opinion.

Maybe the answer to the Millsaps question revolves around the question of how good has the Millsaps competition been this season:

-----The biggest question involves the trio of MS College, Louisiana College and Hardin-Simmons.  Are these schools somewhat comparable since HSU beat MS College 35-27 and LA College 36-28, and then MS College beat LA College 21-19?  It seems like these teams are all competitive, with HSU being about a TD better.  And as you know, HSU gave UMHB a pretty good game today. 

-----If MS College is a pretty good team, then it is impressive that Millsaps beat them 42-6.  I know it was the first game of the year, it was a rivalry game, and MC has converted from a passing team to a running team in mid-season, but MC was considered at top-25 team at the time.

-----If LA College is a pretty good team, then maybe Rhodes isn't such a bad team despite the 49-2 loss to Millsaps.  Afterall, Rhodes only lost at LA College 14-3, they beat Birmingham-Southern 35-7, and today they beat a previously unbeaten Washington U. team 28-10.  Take away the Millsaps game and their season looks fairly good.

-----Then you have today's DePauw game.  Millsaps led 35-7 at the half and they had fumbled away a scoring opportunity at the DePauw 5-yard line and they had dropped a 1-yard pass in the end zone on 4th and goal.  Millsaps had 456 yards of total offense at the half against a team that was undefeated and considered to be a fairly solid team.

If you ignored the Millsaps game on their schedule, I think most folks would say that MS College, LA College, and Rhodes are having good seasons.  Millsaps has won these games by a combined score of 146-21 with Juan Joseph only playing in the 4th quarter for one series in these 3 games (that was at Rhodes when Millsaps could only dress 52 players).  Are there other teams in the nation that would have done the same?  Probably yes, but how many teams is the question. 

It's an interesting discussion but as we all know it comes down to Millsaps continuing to improve throughout the season and then winning at Trinity in November.  That should be one heck of a game.

[Major Rev]

Had to drag my family away from the beach today to make the last quarter of the Depauw/Millsaps game.

Juan Joseph had left the game late in the first half and Spud Dick went out late in the third quarter.  Both had gotten a good lick - and I hope both, who are fine athletes, will be back in full swing next week.

Joseph had gone 33 of 43 before leaving the game with a 35-7 lead at the half.  Millsaps had 590 yards of offense with 200 coming on the ground.

Also, watch out for Burt Perreira, last week's SCAC Offensive Player of the week, who after today has now rushed for TD, and also thrown and caught TD passes during the first half of the season.

One of the busiest kickers in the SCAC, Taylor Russolino had his first PAT miss today, going 7 for 8 on the game.

I've definitely seen Depauw play better games, but what I think we were seeing was a Millsaps defense with a lot of depth maturing as it moves into the second half of the season.

I agree with Wes; this is a GOOD football team.

[Ralph Turner]

Please remember that the Rhodes LC game was played in the remnants of Hurricane Ike and rescheduled to Sunday.

The field was a mud pit that day.

[Major Rev]

That Oct. 18 Depauw-Trinity game should shed some light as well...

You've got to be elated these days with two teams from SCAC and ASC both doing so well ...

[Tex]

(El Tea Gray---re: Trinity's 1st Half Penalties and BSC Stat Sheet Errors)


I counted either 107 or 108 yards in penalties for Trinity in the 1st Half. That would leave 5 or 6 yards in penalties for the Tigers in the 2nd Half!

Also, the BSC Stat Sheet has confused Robert Davidson SO QB with Johnny Landino SO DB; as well as confusing Kyle Lewis SO RB with Brandon Grenier SR DB. Davidson and Landino both are listed as wearing #16 and Lewis and Grenier both are listed as wearing #24; they however are not on the field at the same time as one plays "O" and the other "D".

Good win, "O" cranked-up in the 3rd Qtr and the "Black Flag" really made it's presence known in the entire 2nd Half. As in years past; four games are in the books and the team is just about where it needs to be.


                                                                         

One of the parents reminded me in the airport, it was pretty much the same ref that nearly all the penalties in the first half.  Ironically enough, he happened to be the side line guy that was right in front of the BSC bench.  He got an ear full the entire half.  I'm not sure, but I think he was on the TU side for the 2nd half. 

[Tex]

In our last two games, Trinity has come out and blown up after half time.  I'm not sure if it's better conditioning or if our coaches are just making really really good halftime adjustments.  Maybe a mix of both?  BSC kept shuttling in D-linemen during the 2nd half and they looked pretty tired.  It wasn't warm in the stands, sitting in the shade with a breeze blowing.  But, it looked pretty warm on the field. 

Unfortunately, Trinity had a 90+ yard kick off return called back on a holding penalty.  Admittedly, I never even saw the flag tossed until after the player hit the endzone.  I have no idea if it was a legit call or not.  But, it was a fantastic runback that was negated. 

I am seeing the effects of travel on the visiting teams in the SCAC.  There is a very real home field advantage due to travel. 

[golden_dome]

Worst loss This ties the worst loss for DePauw in 12 years. They lost to Albion in 1996 by a 51-9 score. 

I don't think they played very well today, obviously, but even if they did, I don't know how much of chance they had against Millsaps.  Very rare you see Spud go something like 8-23.  He's much more accurate than that.

Millsaps is a REALLY good football team.  Like Top 10 good.

Wes,
  Like I said earlier this season after seeing Millsaps in the opener, I thought they would be a top ten team and have an easy time with a SCAC schedule. I'm not sure how high I'd put them because I haven't looked around the nation much this year. I think they  would struggle against last year's UMHB team, but that was a consensus top 3 team. After seeing the UMHB-HSU score from today, they are probably right there with this year's Cru team.

   I wouldn't use MS College to compare scores because there have been too many changes in our team, and it's not a good gauge comparing them to other teams, but I think Millsaps is significantly better than HSU right now. That could change as the season goes along. UMHB is a bit down and they've had a few big injuries already, so they are vulnerable. I don't know how the rest of the South Region is doing, but I would not be surprised if the Majors are the top team this year.

   One other thing to consider is that a negative perception of the SCAC has hurt this year's Millsaps team as well in the polls. SCAC teams have lost in the 1st round of the playoffs by an average score of 35-10 the last four years including three Trinity losses to UMHB by scores of 32-13, 35-6 and 52-23 last year. Though Trinity is undefeated right now, they have been unimpressive. I think Millsaps runs the table and handles Trinity by a couple touchdowns as long as they don't get bored with inferior opponents and overlook someone good enough to give them a game.

   This year's Millsaps team in my opinion is the best the SCAC has produced since Trinity's run in 2002 and I could certainly see them slotted somewhere between #5-10. I would like to see a Millsaps-UMHB matchup. On paper this UMHB team is a notch or two below their last 2-3 teams, but I'm sure they still have a solid team and that could be a very good game.

[DPU3619]

This year's Millsaps team in my opinion is the best the SCAC has produced since Trinity's run in 2002 and I could certainly see them slotted somewhere between #5-10. I would like to see a Millsaps-UMHB matchup. On paper this UMHB team is a notch or two below their last 2-3 teams, but I'm sure they still have a solid team and that could be a very good game.

I agree with that.  I know a lot of Millsaps fans aren't putting the cart in front of the horse quite yet, proverbially speaking. That being said, if I were a Millsaps fan, I'd really start pulling for Hardin-Simmons and/or Trinity to make the playoffs.  That'll keep Millsaps away from Belton (or the Cru away from Jackson, either way) for at least a couple of rounds.

[Ron Boerger]

Wes,

Not sure that would be the case if 9-1 HSU and Trinity both get in (in addition to undefeated UMHB and Millsaps).  The AA would probably send Trinity to HSU and match up UMHB and Millsaps in the first round.  UMHB and Millsaps are within the 500 mile "no fly" zone (if the AA can read maps better this year), so both flights and first-round conference rematches would be avoided.  HSU is > 500 miles away from Millsaps as, I believe, is TU.

Fairness would be avoided, too, but the AA threw that old canard away a long time ago.

If only HSU gets in, the AA probably sends the Cowboys back to Belton and finds someone else to send to Millsaps. 

I still have hope that Trinity will be the one coming out on top in the SCAC, but watching the Majors destroy teams week in and week out certainly makes it seem less likely.  Stranger things have happened, tho.   

[Ron Boerger]

Also, Rhodes' upset yesterday puts them back into the picture, if not for the SCAC championship then a possible spoiler for the rest of the teams in the conference.

[DPU3619]

Good point.  Didn't think about that.  So maybe they only want one of them to get in.....

[golden_dome]

I still have hope that Trinity will be the one coming out on top in the SCAC, but watching the Majors destroy teams week in and week out certainly makes it seem less likely.  Stranger things have happened, tho.   

Ron,
    It's hard to compare teams without any film or having seen them in person, but on paper this year's Millsaps team is head and shoulders above the rest of the SCAC. But, pride and tradition are huge with programs like Trinity and I'm sure they aren't going to roll over and die with that home winning streak on the line. It should be an interesting game.