FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[TXMike]

As has happened to even the best officials, the F mistakenly signalled possession to DU even though he saw TU with the ball.  In the ensuing discussion, someone mentioned that TU had indeed blocked before the ball had done 10 yards,  That is a foul.  Since TU had the ball, DU had to accept the penalty which means 5 yards from previous spot (30) and rekick.  Refs hate long drawn out conferences as much as anyone else but if that is what it takes to make sure a play is handled correctly, so be it. 

[DPULefty22]

Hey, Wes:  Thanks for providing the link to that very flattering photo of one of DePauw's kickoff coverage men signalling "first down" to the Trinity Tiger bench.  I'm sure the whole DPU community will be proud of the fine sportsmanship displayed here.  Or was he signalling to the timekeeper in the pressbox?

Perhaps you should send this photo to the "home office" along with your earlier complaints.  Did you pick that particular photo for some Freudian reason?



Here's the link (slightly smaller version that doesn't overfill my screen):
http://tigerpics.smugmug.com/gallery/6309718_2s9zu#398100654_3izHy-L-LB

(Tex ... good shot!)

OH NOES, the dreaded middle digit. Something something moral fiber, blah blah what is this world coming to, yadda yadda should be ashamed...

I thought it was pretty damn funny. I'm sure many worse sentiments are shared verbally in the heat of 60 minutes worth of battle.

Moving things forward... anybody who's seen Colorado College this year, what's going on with their offense? They shredded DPU last year in the Springs, and that was when DPU had some experience in the defensive backfield. But it doesn't look like they're having the same kind of effectiveness offensively this season.

[Tex]

As has happened to even the best officials, the F mistakenly signalled possession to DU even though he saw TU with the ball.  In the ensuing discussion, someone mentioned that TU had indeed blocked before the ball had done 10 yards,  That is a foul.  Since TU had the ball, DU had to accept the penalty which means 5 yards from previous spot (30) and rekick.  Refs hate long drawn out conferences as much as anyone else but if that is what it takes to make sure a play is handled correctly, so be it. 

I have a friend that's a local official and I've watched him work a few 5A HS games.  I'm convinced those guys are in a thankless job and honestly try to do the best they can. 

[TXMike]

They (we) do and I have great understanding for judgment call mistakes, (i.e was there enough contact for pass interference, was that block really in the back, etc).  People see things differently, a person might not have good enough physical skills to get in the right place at the right time, visual acuity is not equal, etc etc  But I have no sympathy when guys make mistakes that are rules-oriented, especially when it is not some rarely used rule.  The one thing they (we) can control is how much we study and learn the rules.  No excuse for not knowing them. 

[D3_DPUFan]

Oh, and one more thing, here's a photo uncovered about that onside kick fiasco.  Seems like the FJ is fairly certain that DePauw has it.  Start there and proceed the next several photos until the FJ magiaclly changes his mind and then the mysterious huddle begins.

Also, I wonder who on the TU sideline made Joeckel so mad so darned angry.

Nice photo...ref's, you're number one, baby.   and actually, Wes, I believe that is #25 Thomas Wrona, not #75 Joeckel, who is unfortunately out for the season with a knee injury.

[DPU3619]

Also, how is that all these folks here are speaking with such authority on this issue?  Is there a video out there that shows this to be the case or is it simply a report from a guy that was there?  

Anyway, I ask that rhetorically as I'm going to quit talking about it.  Time to concentrate on my Tennessee travel plans.  

I'm answering anyway.  It was noticed by both DePauw coaches and DePauw staff.  I'd say they are certainly persons of "such authority" to understand the rules properly.  There's no reason to lie about such a thing.  I'm sorry that it actually happened, but this isn't being made up.

Nice photo...ref's, you're number one, baby.   and actually, Wes, I believe that is #25 Thomas Wrona, not #75 Joeckel, who is unfortunately out for the season with a knee injury.

Thanks for the correction.  Got an email that I had misindentified Dave, as well.  Sorry.  The finger is an unfortunate side effect of those sequence of photos, but since nobody could seem to understand the situation, I thought it would help to shed a little light on that very confusing sequence of events.

[D3_DPUFan]

Moving things forward... anybody who's seen Colorado College this year, what's going on with their offense? They shredded DPU last year in the Springs, and that was when DPU had some experience in the defensive backfield. But it doesn't look like they're having the same kind of effectiveness offensively this season.

I noticed the same thing...I think they were definitely one of the better offenses DePauw faced last year...we were fortunate to scratch and claw for a double OT victory...my guess is they lost some personnel and have changed offensive schemes...but don't know for sure...   

[Tex]

Moving things forward... anybody who's seen Colorado College this year, what's going on with their offense? They shredded DPU last year in the Springs, and that was when DPU had some experience in the defensive backfield. But it doesn't look like they're having the same kind of effectiveness offensively this season.

I noticed the same thing...I think they were definitely one of the better offenses DePauw faced last year...we were fortunate to scratch and claw for a double OT victory...my guess is they lost some personnel and have changed offensive schemes...but don't know for sure...   

The one TU game I got to see live last year was the CC game.  They must have a different QB this year, one with a lot less arm.  The guy from last season did connect on some nice passes in that game.

[DPU3619]

Jon McDonald is actually back, which is what is so perplexing about the whole thing.  Even losing a couple of his leading pass catchers shouldn't lead to that much of a drop off in prodcution. 68 passing yards per game.  Blech.

[roocru]

On another note;   

I am proud of the resurgence of the Roos!  I have not seen Rhodes since AC joined the conference.  Can anyone give me some info on their offense, defense, best players, etc.?  What can I expect when I watch the Homecoming game this weekend??

One more try!   

[D3_DPUFan]

The one TU game I got to see live last year was the CC game.  They must have a different QB this year, one with a lot less arm.  The guy from last season did connect on some nice passes in that game.

Yep...and I seem to remember a nice TE for them as well...anyway I think they put up some nice offensive nuymbers last season.

Jon McDonald is actually back, which is what is so perplexing about the whole thing.  Even losing a couple of his leading pass catchers shouldn't lead to that much of a drop off in prodcution. 68 passing yards per game.  Blech.

wow...wonder if he has been hurt???

[bbunch]

On another note;   

I am proud of the resurgence of the Roos!  I have not seen Rhodes since AC joined the conference.  Can anyone give me some info on their offense, defense, best players, etc.?  What can I expect when I watch the Homecoming game this weekend??

One more try!   

Defensively pretty strong...

6th in the nation in rushing defense (1st in the SCAC)
26th in total defense (2nd in SCAC)
1st in the nation in sacks
4th in the nation in tackles for loss

See http://web1.ncaa.org/football/exec/rankingSummary?year=2008&org=573

Stats do not look so favorable on the offensive side...


Bryan

[fatboy]

I might be wrong and don't jump me if I am but I thought the AA had new clock rule that the clock would start shortly after a ball is ruled incomplete.  The expectation being within the last 2 minutes of either half.  That is my understandeing.

Just trying to Help!

[Pat Coleman]

That's true for out of bounds plays, but not incomplete passes.

[roocru]

Congrats to AC's Ross Hasten & Matt Finke for bing named SCAC offensive and special teams players of the week respectively. 

Interesting that Rhodes' Desmond Hendricks was named defensive player of the week as well.  Kind of sets the table for the game this week.