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wabashcpa

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Not sure DePauw is a fair comparison either due to the rivalry aspect of the series.  It is truly a "you can throw the records out the window" type of game.

That said, I believe Millsaps has been underrated all year.  My comment was based purely on current poll position.  No way Millsaps on a bye week leapfrogs a Wabash team who for all intents and purposes clinched the NCAC yesterday.  I do think North Central jumps over them due to beating down a higher ranked Wheaton team. 

For what it's worth, I would probably have Millsaps ahead of Wabash as well, but I was surprised earlier in the year that DePauw wasn't getting more recognition, and based on their season year-to-date, that lack of recognition has been justified.  So, I defer to the pollsters here.

Hopefully we'll get to see whose better with a head-to-head matchup.  :)

DPU3619

Quote from: wabashcpa on October 26, 2008, 09:19:39 AM
Not sure DePauw is a fair comparison either due to the rivalry aspect of the series.

I agree with that.  We talk so often about how the better team doesn't necessarily win that football game.  

I don't necessarily think that comparing scores from past years is an accurate representation of where both football teams stand, particularly when one has a different coach than they had during the time period when you're comparing scores. 

If you ARE going to do that, then I think it's noteworthy to compare overall results, as well.  Wabash went to the final 8 last year while Millsaps sat at home.  The opposite happened in 2006, but Wabash was 8-2 and got left out while Millsaps got in at 7-3 because they won the Pool A.  Maybe part of that is scheduing, but I think it's still a valid point if we're talking about comparing scores.

frank_ezelle

#5552
I really need to put smiley faces in all of my posts.  :) ;) :D ;D :o 8) ::) :P :) :)

The polls are nice because they show a level of respect, but at some point the actual number by your team isn't very meaningful.  It is a well educated guess based on insignificant information. 

At this point in time there seems to be a general concensus around the nation that Coach DuBose, his staff, and his players have combined to become a really good team.  While I doubt that many see Millsaps as a primary contender for the national crown, I believe many see them as a team that might be a factor in the national picture.  That's an amazing achievement when you look at where this program was in the 2005 season.

I have no idea if Millsaps should be ahead of Wabash or Muhlenberg or UMHB, and who's to say that Millsaps should be ahead of all 9 of the undefeated teams that are spread throughout the poll from #9 to #25?  More information will come this week and then in the NCAA playoff, which is where I think both Millsaps and Trinity will end up regardless of next Saturday's outcome.  One thing that I can say with certainty is that if Millsaps is in the playoffs, it will be a far superior Millsaps team than the 2006 team that got this amazing turnaround started.
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MajorDad

The only comparison that matters is the one where Millsaps meets Wabash in the playoffs, other than that, it's blah blah blah because on any given SAT, either team could win. Too much footbal left to be worrying about what the polls are saying. I see Millsaps at #5 or 6, no lower. Win next week, I see a possible leap.....

etg

(El Tea Gray---re: Any given SAT?)

MajorDad,
Well said, "any given SAT" (H'mmm); for Millsaps in SAT there will be "no win/no leap".

FYI, in SAT, today's Trinity vs. Millsaps Soccer:
Men------TU  7     MC  2  (Hat Trick for Noe Casanova)
Women---TU  3    MC  1

                                     
                                                                           :)









MajorDad


D3_DPUFan

I know it's been said before...but the SCAC foks did a really great job with their new website...excellent...really like it and I know it will continue to get better as you add features...nice job!


DPU3619

Nice call, MajorDad.  Majors are in at 5 this week - behind Mount, North Central, Muhlenberg, and Wabash.  Trinity stays at 14. 

consultant

Wow!  Majors ARE in at 5.  I had to check the poll to be sure.  It's just remarkable.  A lot of the Millsaps faithful (particularly those of us who have followed the team closely over the last decade) have always believed this was possible, but it's still a little shocking.

That said, Coach DuBose and the team desrve the credit and should roll into San Antone with some healthy (but not cocky) swagger with a little revenge on the mind.  Should be a great week leading up to the game. 

What a great showdown in D3!


TigerDad

Hope lots of you Majors fans will be making the trip west to San Antone ... the atmosphere at TU is not quite as festive as in Jackson, but it should be quite a circus after last year's post-game publicity.  We welcome you to E.M. Stevens and hope you have a safe trip!  Be sure to come early (Thu or Fri) and take in the famous San Antonio River Walk if you've never been ... it' well worth an extra day of vacation or personal day to get to experience Texas San Antonio style!

FYI, Trinity University is located just off Hwy 281 about 2 miles north of downtown and about 7 miles south of San Antonio Airport.  E.M. Stevens Field is on the TU campus and the entrance (and parking) is along Shook Avenue, between Mulberry and Hildebrand.

For those needing a map and directions, here's a GoogleMap you can use: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=29.459422,-98.482733&spn=0.008538,0.013561&t=h&z=16&msid=114544560278502564499.000456945c544cddce2ab

Hope to see everyone there and perhaps meet some of you while you're in Texas.  Good luck to both teams and hope "The Shootout in San Antone" lives up to the SCAC and D3 hype!  I'd like to see two teams at their best firing on all cylinders ... another national quality game by two fine football teams.
Trinity Tiger Football ... where champions compete on and off the field.

MajorDad

TD, I don't know what alot is, as far as the traveling Fan base for Millsaps, but I suspect this game will see more Millsaps fans on the road than any other time this year. I for one will travel from FL. Barring a blowout from either team, this should be a good one....

MajorDad

Quote from: Wes Anderson on October 26, 2008, 10:16:32 PM
Nice call, MajorDad.  Majors are in at 5 this week - behind Mount, North Central, Muhlenberg, and Wabash.  Trinity stays at 14. 

Wes, Outside of Mount Union, #2,3,4 remaining schedules show no opponent in the top 25. But in order for Millsaps to move any higher, a convincing victory @ Trinity will be needed. A loss would drop us to around 15, 16. Our final two opponents are a combined 1-12 thus far. A 9-1 season should get us into the playoffs, but a 10-0 season has the slight possibility of getting us a first round bye....

MajorDad

Quote from: consultant on October 26, 2008, 11:53:07 PM
Wow!  Majors ARE in at 5.  I had to check the poll to be sure.  It's just remarkable.  A lot of the Millsaps faithful (particularly those of us who have followed the team closely over the last decade) have always believed this was possible, but it's still a little shocking.

That said, Coach DuBose and the team desrve the credit and should roll into San Antone with some healthy (but not cocky) swagger with a little revenge on the mind.  Should be a great week leading up to the game. 

What a great showdown in D3!




I completely agree. The exposure this game received last year due to the outcome should foster some additional attention but am doubtful it will be at the national level. Not to knock on the voting for the DIII pole but I feel they had hoped both teams would be undefeated go into this weekend. I'm not saying Millsaps doesn't belong where they are, but it is shocking to see us at #5. SAT @ 230pm will tell us what is deserving.

TigerDad

Quote from: MajorDad on October 27, 2008, 05:13:31 AMSAT @ 230pm will tell us what is deserving.
Just to be certain nobody misses it, kickoff will be at 1:30pm Central Time.

GO TIGERS.
Trinity Tiger Football ... where champions compete on and off the field.

wabashcpa

Quote from: MajorDad on October 27, 2008, 05:05:33 AM
but a 10-0 season has the slight possibility of getting us a first round bye....

I don't think anybody gets a bye week (at least technically - depending on the opponent, it may seem like a bye week).