2011 Final Four

[Mr. Ypsi]

Myrick scored only 112 through the first three games.

only? 

My thoughts exactly Ralph! 

(Sticks tongue out at Hoops Fan) 

In defense of Hoops Fan, he was responding to a question as to whether Myrick alone had out-scored WP's opponents (who were listed at 139, but I've got 138).  Either way, Myrick had 'only' 112.

But I'd say that is commendably close to 138!

BTW, WP exactly matched their previous defensive numbers - 46 a game.  But it is helpful if YOU score more than 46!

[diehardfan]

(Sticks tongue out at Hoops Fan)  

I'm a married man, April; keep that tongue to yourself.

Oh man, can I add you to the extremely extensive list of arrogant guys I know. 

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

(Sticks tongue out at Hoops Fan)  

I'm a married man, April; keep that tongue to yourself.

Oh man, can I add you to the extremely extensive list of arrogant guys I know. 

No.  Although you can add me to the list of people who really like to get the last word in and the list of people who try too hard to be funny.

[diehardfan]

[No.  Although you can add me to the list of people who really like to get the last word in...

Not possible, my friend, not possible. I am waaay too stubborn! 

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Whatever you say, Ma'am.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Can we safely predict that the next 386 posts will be from dhf and hf, each getting in the last word?!

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Yeah; that might be accurate.

[diehardfan]

Can we safely predict that the next 386 posts will be from dhf and hf, each getting in the last word?!

I don't know... if the other person just says dumb stuff to keep the conversation going, doesn't the first person win by default? 

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Well I'm so glad you're ready to conceed defeat.  Unexpected, but a pleasant suprise.

[diehardfan]

The biggest loser is the one that does even realize that he has already lost.

[zosobob]

Should be a great FINAL 4, good luck to all teams.

[Mr. Ypsi]

To horn in on dhf and hf each getting in the final word (!), this Final Four will be the #3 (Witt), #4 (Amherst), #7 (Va Wesleyan), and #11 (IllWesleyan) ranked teams in the final regular season poll.  Anyone feel up to checking if this a record for the highest low-ranking final four team (or highest average ranking)?  My hunch is that there has always been a final four team below #11, and that the average of 6.25 is a new high.

Interesting that the lowest ranked team (#11 IWU) seems to be considered the favorite on every board I've checked - perhaps only the co-favorite on the NCAC board.

[smedindy]

My rankings had it:

2 - Witt
6 - Amherst
15 - IWU
20 - Va. Wesleyan

[diehardfan]

Hey, all joking aside, I would really really appreciate it if the jokes didn't go in that direction again. I've been trying really hard not to let the original comment bother me, but I just can't help it.

I know that you didn't mean anything at all Hoops Fan, and I know you know that I think a lot of you as an adept poster on these boards. I'm well aware that most of the regulars will just laugh at it and move on. However, at the heart of the matter, jokes like that are seriously damaging to my attempts to be respected as a basketball analyst and fan on a board full of men.

I'm definitely female, and I like my gender. I have no intrinsic problems with being thought of as a girl. I like baking, knitting, fixing my hair, wearing heels, holding babies, all that. But I am a lot more than that. I'm a scientist, a huge sports fan, and passionate about social justice. I look at the way many woman act these days, and I am in a constant state of feeling sorry for them, or revolted by them.

I maintain friendships with numerous guys on posting up, which I have come to value more than I could express over the years. Many of the guys think of me as a kid sister, or a long lost granddaughter, and I really value that. Comments like this, or the date comments a few weeks back, make me feel very awkward... if I can't joke with you guys and be joked back with on equal terms, without posts going in that direction, I don't know how I can comfortably joke around and be friends with you guys, especially married guys, without feeling like a whore. If I'm treated differently, if there are jokes that can only be directed at me, any subsequent comments I make come off as flirting, when they are meant to be nothing but friendly ribbing. If I use any of these faces in a post, , it shouldn't mean anything different than it does when any guy uses them while conversing with one of their buddies here.

Posting up has really gotten frustrating lately, my frustration right now only minimally has anything to do with you. There were all sorts of comments recently about how great strip clubs are, there were comments about how the Hope College women's coach should move up in the world by becoming the men's coach, the regular cheerleaders comments... the list goes on and on. I am the furthest thing from a feminist, but aside from making many of you guys sound rather crude, a lot of what is said here makes me feel like I am just not worth very much.

As long as I post here, I suppose the random "I am hitting on you in really poor and obvious ways" emails that I get from posters will continue. And while it's somewhat silly and annoying, it's nothing like being treated like a random chick by people whom I care about and trust.

I don't know, perhaps my expectations for what the world should be like are unrealistic, but they are sort of necessary to convince me that there is any point to me being here and posting my thoughts. 

Sigh... it's days like this I wish I never revealed my identity.

...and now back to your regularly scheduled final four discussion. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

April,

That may well be the single best post you have ever made.

I'll take issue with just one statement: "I am the furthest thing from a feminist..." - no, April, you ARE a feminist in the original sense of the term (before 'gender feminists' stole the term from 'equity feminists').  In the original (and, in my view, correct) meaning of the term, gender shouldn't matter in areas where gender shouldn't matter!  The quality of your opinions about (or knowledge about) either men's or women's bball should have nothing to do with whether you are male or female.  They should be judged by their logic, supporting evidence, coherency, etc., not by the gender of the person offering the opinion.  Sorry to inform you, but in the CORRECT (by my view) sense of the term, you are a feminist!

I hope I speak for the over-whelming majority of posters when I say we don't care whether you are male or female, black or white (or Korean!), Republican or Democrat, former player or hopeless trip-over-my-own-feet - did your POST make sense, and could/did you support it?