East Region Playoff Discussion

[gobombers15]

I can't remember.  The bracket is at 3pm on ESPNews?

Correct.

[Ralph Turner]

We have seen SUNY Morrisville looking at the NEAC as a conference home.  If they leave the NJAC as a football affiliate, it would open up more dates for Salisbury, Frostburg and Wesley, which are in-region opponents for the New Jersey schools.  

Maybe that might be the difference that the NJAC needs.  The ACFC will need games, and the New Jersey schools need opponents.  Playing an ACFC school will help the OWP/OOWP more than adding a 0-10/1-9/2-8 Morrisville to the OWP/OOWP.  Ten-team conferences just get no chance to augment the OWP/OOWP on out-of-conference in-region foes.

If DePauw earns the Pool C bid, then it was the chance to play (IMHO) a dramatically weaker Wabash and "beef-up" the OWP on the Little Giants.  IMHO, DePauw was not the second best team in the SCAC, by a long shot.   But, the Wabash win made the difference.

[gobombers15]

  TGP,
How do you see Hobart as the higher seed?   SOS was not as strong as Cortland's correct?   

I agree, Cortland should be ranked ahead of Hobart. Initially, I thought Hobart would be ranked ahead of Cortland due to the Law of Recency. But looking at the season as a whole, Cortland deserves to be ranked ahead of Hobart. The only question now becomes if the committee wants to set up Cortland-Ithaca II in the 2nd round of the playoffs.

I wouldn't be surprised if they slip Wesley in there as #3 to keep that from happening.

Forget that.  Make it happen committee!!!

Of course you want it to happen. You don't want to have that taste in your mouth for 12 months, do you?

[DanPadavona]

We have seen SUNY Morrisville looking at the NEAC as a conference home.  If they leave the NJAC as a football affiliate, it would open up more dates for Salisbury, Frostburg and Wesley, which are in-region opponents for the New Jersey schools.  

Is that true Ralph?  Is there a story/discussion about this on D3?  I'd like to see 1 more open game for Cortland, except for the fact that we always have had trouble filling a schedule.  Morrisville is not living up to expectations and may be bringing the SOS down for the NJAC.  Could you see Wesley jumping to the NJAC and becoming an Eastern Region school?

[pumkinattack]

Frank,

  For your show tonight, can you ask the committee member when dropping an out of region Pool B or Pool C (or even a non-#1 Pool A) into a bracket, how they seed those teams?  For example, JCU in 2002 was a 7.  Since there's no basis for comparing RRO from different regions and you probably don't have a lot of data, it seems like a tough deal. 

  Another example, Wesley or Case probably don't deserve to be a 7 or 8 in the East, but given that there is little to go on, how do you give a non-#1 a higher seed than that?  General "wisdom" is that Wesley is a very good, top 15 team, but they do have a loss to an eastern team not going to the playoffs (not sure if Del Val would be regionally ranked at the end).

[Frank Rossi]

Frank,

  For your show tonight, can you ask the committee member when dropping an out of region Pool B or Pool C (or even a non-#1 Pool A) into a bracket, how they seed those teams?  For example, JCU in 2002 was a 7.  Since there's no basis for comparing RRO from different regions and you probably don't have a lot of data, it seems like a tough deal. 

  Another example, Wesley or Case probably don't deserve to be a 7 or 8 in the East, but given that there is little to go on, how do you give a non-#1 a higher seed than that?  General "wisdom" is that Wesley is a very good, top 15 team, but they do have a loss to an eastern team not going to the playoffs (not sure if Del Val would be regionally ranked at the end).

Sure, but it'd be helpful if you come into the chatroom and drop a reminder for me during the show.  Mr. Kaiser will join us at 7:50pm.

[Ralph Turner]

We have seen SUNY Morrisville looking at the NEAC as a conference home.  If they leave the NJAC as a football affiliate, it would open up more dates for Salisbury, Frostburg and Wesley, which are in-region opponents for the New Jersey schools.  

Is that true Ralph?  Is there a story/discussion about this on D3?  I'd like to see 1 more open game for Cortland, except for the fact that we always have had trouble filling a schedule.  Morrisville is not living up to expectations and may be bringing the SOS down for the NJAC.  Could you see Wesley jumping to the NJAC and becoming an Eastern Region school?

SUNY-Morrisville and the NEAC

Post #296 NEAC Men's Board

See this post and Pat Coleman's follow-up post on SUNY-Morrisville.

I don't want to spread a rumor about this, and I still have not seen corroboration of this, but I will watch for this.

(If I have gotten the "cart before the horse", then I apologize.)

Please remember that SUNY-Cobleskill is aligning with the NEAC.

As for Wesley, I don't know that program that well to speculate.  My musings on that part of the world are more like "outside analysis" and "on-the-scene consulting".  What is working?  What is not?  Wesley moved to the Captial AC for all other sports.  The Wesley President must look at the entire program.  I think that Wesley can fill the games that they need with the open dates that arise in the 9-game conference schedule.

['gro]

CURRY!!

[Jonny Utah]

updates please?

[lewdogg11]

CURRY!!

Who DAT gon beat Curry who dat?

[union89]

CURRY!!

Wow...Ithaca/Curry.................Plymouth/Cortland

['gro]

Mount Union/ Randolph Macon

Lycoming/Hobart

Plymouth State/Cortland

Ithaca/Curry aka Dem Spicy Boyz

not sure about home teams must be MUC, Bart, Cortland, Ithaca.

PC's on the phone with the ESPN guy... ESPN guy just likes naming the mascots.
Guy: Lycoming... the WARRIORS... what about them Pat?

[lewdogg11]

MUC Randolph Macon
Bart Lyco
Cortland Plymouth
Ithaca Curry

[gobombers15]

Looks like IC is going to have to whip Cortland's tail for a second time to get a shot at MUC.

[union89]

Plymouth and Curry.....neither one the #8 seed...........very weak bracket.....Cortland/Ithaca second round matchup should be interesting.....I also like 'Barts matchup with Lyco......go 'Bart.