East Region Playoff Discussion

[Bombers798891]

Curry's probably still has that "Oh my God... Ithaca" feeling that teams that are not used to them get.  IC's got a great rep and resume (year after year) to back it up. But when it all comes down to it they are just another team. Don't get me wrong, IC is the favorite by far. Curry players need to learn to not believe the hype.  IC will probably win based on talent, coaching, etc... not because they are all mighty Ithaca.

I agree with you there. IC was able to--sort of---hang with MUC last year because they refused to get bowled over by going up to Alliance. Curry would be wise to adopt the same mindset--and if they're well coached, they will. Some teams (Springfield would be one) come in to Butterfield and just lay down. Two years ago, they came in unbeaten after hanging 55 on SJF and put up a big fat 7. In '04 they came in at 5-1 and lost 31-7. In '02 they made the NCAA's at 8-1 and the only loss was a 44-20 butt-kicking up here.

So if you're Curry, don't uh, be like Springfield. Be like Cortland is and Buff State was. Come in a little cocky, with just enough swagger. Play loose and easy. That's how you beat Ithaca at Butterfield

...or be like SJF at Butterfield.   BTW, all year SJF fans were criticized for even suggesting that a 30 pt loss was an accomplishment in Alliance.  No brownie pts now for IC for last year's trip to Alliance and losing by alot.  A monkeystomp is a monkeystomp is a monkeystomp.  Other than UWW 2007 and Capital 2006, SJF 2006 is the only squad that "was able to hang with MUC" in recent play.

1) I believe I mentioned SJF winning at IC in another post, but said that Curry was nowhere as talented as that year's SJF team. That's obviously true. The point I was trying to make is that, on a talent level, Curry probably equates more to the Buffalo State and Cortland teams. You were #6 in the country before that game #5 after, and, as you said yourself, hung with MUC later. Curry is getting one vote in the Top 25. SJF '07 and Curry '08 are not even close to similar comparisons. SJF '07 was a very good team. SJF won in IC in 2007 for a simple reason: They were a much better team. I was really trying to talk about going in to IC as an underdog and pulling out a win. The difference, to this point anyway, is that, from a W-L perspective, which, since we're in the playoffs, is all that matters, is that Cortland has had significant recent success at IC, going 4-1 there from 1997-2003. Buffalo State won there in 1992, 1996 and 1998.

2) Where did this random attack come from? I mentioned that IC "sort of" hung with MUC last season. IC hung with MUC for a half last season, just like you did this season, in part because they were good teams, but also because they weren't going to be intimidated by MUC. I never even mentioned SJF in that point, or their game against MUC.

Bomber fans and SJF fans both said the same thing: "We gave MUC their closest game of the season to that point." You guys lost by 30, which only Occidental has come as close to. Ithaca lost by 24, which was the standard until Whitewater came to town. At the end of the day, it doesn't mean much beyond pride though, because hey, IC lost.

I don't think anyone, myself included, thinks you guys shouldn't take pride from the game, which is all IC fans ever did. It's when you get into trying to use that game as a marker for Pool C inclusion, which some, and I stress, some fans tried to do, that people questioned it. There's no reason you don't deserve praise for the game you played however. It just didn't do much, in my mind, to solidify a playoff bid. I think that's where most of the dissention came from. Not really an "SJF lost to MUC by 30 points. SJF is terrible," because that would be stupid. It was "Losing to MUC by 30 instead of 50 is not an argument for a NCAA appearance."

But, I also didn't like IC's preseason ranking, which I too felt was based on the concept of "Losing by 30 and not 50 to MUC".

My post was  really not about comparing point totals. It was simply about the idea of, when playing against a superior opponent, not allowing yourself to be overwhelmed and down big early on.

[clandfan]

Lost to Mt. Ida who got crushed by Morrisville, the weakest team in the NJAC.

[JQV]

2) Where did this random attack come from?

A rest stop on the long road to Husson.

[Frank Rossi]

I just read Around the Northeast.  Three interesting points:

1. Dem Spicy Boyz only have one full-time coach.

2.  Somehow, the Head Coach is not the full-time coach.  WTF?

3.  Plymouth State lost to Mount Ida...at football.  WTF?

It just occurred to me that had the committee not moved Randolph Macon and taken someone other than Curry then Plymouth State would have likely been the 8 seed.  Then, they would have the opportunity to lose to Moutn Ida and beat Mount Union in the same season.  Obviously, following such a feat, the headline on D3Football would be: REPENT.  THE END IS NEAR.

When Curry made it to the second round last year at SJF, I called the game for NCAASports.com.  After Curry's loss, I stopped in a nearby rest area and actually overheard a group of Curry parents talking about how the kids basically would have to fend for themselves that night because the school was closing/had closed the dorms (the players couldn't stay there Saturday night apparently, even though they weren't scheduled to be back to Curry until about 9pm).  Also the food provisions during the prior week were reportedly suspect (I engaged in a conversation with the group out of curiosity and got more than I bargained for in the exchange).  I think this might show some level of the "commitment" the NEFC schools have in terms of their football programs.

[JQV]

DSB "team dorm" for playoff week:

[Knightstalker]

DSB Food Service for playoff week:

[PBR...]

pbr cant believe the head of dem spicy boyz alumni and fan clue said this!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

[JQV]

A Spicy Boy boarding the team "bus" for Ithaca.

[maxpower]

Curry football's financial advisor:

[lewdogg11]

"Keep Pounding"

LD11

[PBR...]

heard this dood is 1/2 time entertainment....

[Reno Hightower]

I just read Around the Northeast.  Three interesting points:

1. Dem Spicy Boyz only have one full-time coach.

2.  Somehow, the Head Coach is not the full-time coach.  WTF?

3.  Plymouth State lost to Mount Ida...at football.  WTF?

It just occurred to me that had the committee not moved Randolph Macon and taken someone other than Curry then Plymouth State would have likely been the 8 seed.  Then, they would have the opportunity to lose to Moutn Ida and beat Mount Union in the same season.  Obviously, following such a feat, the headline on D3Football would be: REPENT.  THE END IS NEAR.

When Curry made it to the second round last year at SJF, I called the game for NCAASports.com.  After Curry's loss, I stopped in a nearby rest area and actually overheard a group of Curry parents talking about how the kids basically would have to fend for themselves that night because the school was closing/had closed the dorms (the players couldn't stay there Saturday night apparently, even though they weren't scheduled to be back to Curry until about 9pm).  Also the food provisions during the prior week were reportedly suspect (I engaged in a conversation with the group out of curiosity and got more than I bargained for in the exchange).  I think this might show some level of the "commitment" the NEFC schools have in terms of their football programs.

Same thing at Union in 05'.....and they were at home.

[AUKaz00]

heard this dood is 1/2 time entertainment....

Nah, the Haze is in Alfred's backfield...

['gro]

DSB's field was not NCAA worthy in 2003 when they were a #4 seed (4!) making them travel to #5 RPI.

I think they upgraded their field after some fund raising


_{We finally sold the
last of the peanut brittle}

[pg04]

Here are my picks for the coming weekend:

MUC 56
Randolph-Macon 0

Lycoming  14
Hobart   17

Curry 21
Ithaca  49

PSU 3
Cortland State 49