East Region Playoff Discussion

[union89]

I made the point earlier in the week that if Curry won the NEFC and Plymouth was 9-1, the should not and would not have given the Pool C to the NEFC.  However, it was the other way around, and it was Curry hoping for the bid.  They deserved it 100% and they showed it today.  Do I think Ithaca would beat them 9 out of 10?  Yes.  Do I think they can beat Cortland?  Nah.  But the bottom line is, Curry has been there for so many years, that they know how to compete with the big dogs now.  The rest of the league still can not.  Unfortunately, the rest of the NEFC being unable and unwilling to catch up will hold Curry back from being nationally respected.

Agreed with must everything, but........I feel Curry CAN beat Cortland.  I think Cortland will win, but I think Curry has a shot with that passing game and Cortland's lack of passing D.  Curry matches up better with Cortland than Ithaca and they dominated Ithaca statistically.

[dlippiel]

I made the point earlier in the week that if Curry won the NEFC and Plymouth was 9-1, the should not and would not have given the Pool C to the NEFC.  However, it was the other way around, and it was Curry hoping for the bid.  They deserved it 100% and they showed it today.  Do I think Ithaca would beat them 9 out of 10?  Yes.  Do I think they can beat Cortland?  Nah.  But the bottom line is, Curry has been there for so many years, that they know how to compete with the big dogs now.  The rest of the league still can not.  Unfortunately, the rest of the NEFC being unable and unwilling to catch up will hold Curry back from being nationally respected.

Agreed with must everything, but........I feel Curry CAN beat Cortland.  I think Cortland will win, but I think Curry has a shot with that passing game and Cortland's lack of passing D.  Curry matches up better with Cortland than Ithaca and they dominated Ithaca statistically.

I am with you on this one U89. My mouth is shut regarding Curry. They closed my mouth up today and really proved to me that I have made some comments of poor taste previously regarding this team. I am eating crow as we speak. With their win today I don't know what to think about next week. They definitely can win next week. Will they I don't know?

[HScoach]

#5 LYCOMING (+17.5) at #4 HOBART

LOL...+17.5?? Has hscoach seen Hobart this year? Nothing personal but the last 2 weeks haven't exactly been an offensive juggernaut up there in Geneva. If hobart wins this game, it's less then 8 points.

phone it in

The line was set by a MUC/OAC person dumbass so they didn't really have strong insight a clue into either team and take the points on that. 

Fixed.

Spread:
Lycoming (+17.5) at Hobart

Final score:
Hobart 33
Lycoming 15

[theoriginalupstate]

#5 LYCOMING (+17.5) at #4 HOBART

LOL...+17.5?? Has hscoach seen Hobart this year? Nothing personal but the last 2 weeks haven't exactly been an offensive juggernaut up there in Geneva. If hobart wins this game, it's less then 8 points.

phone it in

The line was set by a MUC/OAC person dumbass so they didn't really have strong insight a clue into either team and take the points on that. 

Fixed.

Spread:
Lycoming (+17.5) at Hobart

Final score:
Hobart 33
Lycoming 15

Congratulations...

Here's a cookie for you...

['gro]

#5 LYCOMING (+17.5) at #4 HOBART

LOL...+17.5?? Has hscoach seen Hobart this year? Nothing personal but the last 2 weeks haven't exactly been an offensive juggernaut up there in Geneva. If hobart wins this game, it's less then 8 points.

phone it in

The line was set by a MUC/OAC person dumbass so they didn't really have strong insight a clue into either team and take the points on that. 

Fixed.

Spread:
Lycoming (+17.5) at Hobart

Final score:
Hobart 33
Lycoming 15

Please print this post off and bring it to work on Monday so everyone knows how cool you are.

[HScoach]

The same Ithaca that loses at home to Curry was supposed to be the East team with the best shot at knocking out the Raiders? 

That's funny.

[theoriginalupstate]

The same Ithaca that loses at home to Curry was supposed to be the East team with the best shot at knocking out the Raiders? 

That's funny.

Umm take that up with Ithaca then...

[cstate19]

yea, I understand that Curry's passing game is solid and that our secondary is weak.  But why is noone mentioning the flip side?

The fact is PSU BEAT Curry and PSU is a running team.  Guess what, Cortland is a much better version of the PSU offense with Guiliano.  The bigger question is can they step our run?  If we can run the ball and control the clock then how much of that Curry passing game can we see?

                                CUR      PSU

FIRST DOWNS...................       17       16
 Rushing.....................        2       12
 Passing.....................       14        3
 Penalty.....................        1        1
NET YARDS RUSHING.............       12      248

[cstate19]

Guiliano 19-117 1 TD
Mack 27-103 0 TD's

You wouldn't be the leading rusher in the NJAC.

[Senor RedTackle]

Oh well, glad Hobart won. At least RT admits when he made a mistake...some posters spend their time making excuses when they are wrong. Nice win by Bart...surprising they handled Lycoming like that. Good luck against MUC. Will be pulling for you.

...Phone that in too

[Reno Hightower]

I made the point earlier in the week that if Curry won the NEFC and Plymouth was 9-1, the should not and would not have given the Pool C to the NEFC.  However, it was the other way around, and it was Curry hoping for the bid.  They deserved it 100% and they showed it today.  Do I think Ithaca would beat them 9 out of 10?  Yes.  Do I think they can beat Cortland?  Nah.  But the bottom line is, Curry has been there for so many years, that they know how to compete with the big dogs now.  The rest of the league still can not.  Unfortunately, the rest of the NEFC being unable and unwilling to catch up will hold Curry back from being nationally respected.

Agreed with must everything, but........I feel Curry CAN beat Cortland.  I think Cortland will win, but I think Curry has a shot with that passing game and Cortland's lack of passing D.  Curry matches up better with Cortland than Ithaca and they dominated Ithaca statistically.

Looks like PS passed the ball pretty well today, especially for a team without a passing game! If Curry can pass the ball, in general, they will absolutely have a chance to beat Cortland!

[Frank Rossi]

And in a complete switch from last year:

Liberty League 2-0

Empire 8 1-3

Take note PC and KMack.

[gobombers15]

yea, I understand that Curry's passing game is solid and that our secondary is weak.  But why is noone mentioning the flip side?

The fact is PSU BEAT Curry and PSU is a running team.  Guess what, Cortland is a much better version of the PSU offense with Guiliano.  The bigger question is can they step our run?  If we can run the ball and control the clock then how much of that Curry passing game can we see?

                                CUR      PSU

FIRST DOWNS...................       17       16
 Rushing.....................        2       12
 Passing.....................       14        3
 Penalty.....................        1        1
NET YARDS RUSHING.............       12      248

The obvious flaw in your argument, of course, is that Ithaca is a better rushing team, statistically, than Cortland and Curry beat Ithaca.

[cstate19]

i will look up the statistics later, but after watching cortaca you really feel  that IC was the better rushing team?

[Jonny Utah]

I made the point earlier in the week that if Curry won the NEFC and Plymouth was 9-1, the should not and would not have given the Pool C to the NEFC.  However, it was the other way around, and it was Curry hoping for the bid.  They deserved it 100% and they showed it today.  Do I think Ithaca would beat them 9 out of 10?  Yes.  Do I think they can beat Cortland?  Nah.  But the bottom line is, Curry has been there for so many years, that they know how to compete with the big dogs now.  The rest of the league still can not.  Unfortunately, the rest of the NEFC being unable and unwilling to catch up will hold Curry back from being nationally respected.

Agreed with must everything, but........I feel Curry CAN beat Cortland.  I think Cortland will win, but I think Curry has a shot with that passing game and Cortland's lack of passing D.  Curry matches up better with Cortland than Ithaca and they dominated Ithaca statistically.

LD great post.  I think this game (IC/Curry) was a game of emotions.  And I don't know how much it was a factor, but Curry's defensive coordinator (Todd Nestor Ithaca '95) knows his stuff.  Plus, Bill Struzzi (Ithaca '07) is also on the staff and has a first hand knowledge of a lot of what Ithaca has going on.  I think that may have been a  big factor.  I just get the feeling on here sometimes that just because there is an NEFC team in the playoffs, that they have some coaching staff with a bunch of NEFC grads who have never seen the playoffs and might choke for some reason.  That is not the case.

And lets look at all the factors going into this game. 

-IC not knowing they are in the playoffs before last week,
-IC playing in front of 10,000 last week and 2,000 (dont know?) this week.
-IC high and sailing after a HUGE win last week
-Curry being disrespected all the time
-Curry beign the underdog
-IC looking towards next week.

Thats why point spreads always look at trends.  Good teams can beat bad teams on most given days.  Curry was too good for this to happen today.  That was the problem today.