East Region Playoff Discussion

[Frank Rossi]

'It's an anology, not a hypothetical.'

'An ECAC game is played, literally, POST SEASON.  It's a postseason game by definition.'

My Dad can beat up your Dad.

Jesus Christ!!!!  Someone spare me!!!!  HOW ARE YOU SOOO DAMN SMART!!!  JUST SHUTUP PLEASE!!!  

One man you are NOT smarter than...



I'll take blind Eddie over FR in a battle of wits any day.

He only won $50k on Millionaire, though -- I think I could reach that level, too.  Especially if 'gro were my Phone-a-Friend...

FR:  "'gro, OK, here's the question:  What color is curry in its purest form?  A) Red, B) Brown, C) Yellow or D) Purple?"

'gro:  "C'mon, Frank, it's all about that purple drank!"

FR:  "You da man, 'gro, I knew you'd know! -- Meredith, I say D) Purple!"

Meredith:  "Ummm... Here's your CapitalOne Check for $0, Frank."

[dlippiel]

'It's an anology, not a hypothetical.'

'An ECAC game is played, literally, POST SEASON.  It's a postseason game by definition.'

My Dad can beat up your Dad.

Jesus Christ!!!!  Someone spare me!!!!  HOW ARE YOU SOOO DAMN SMART!!!  JUST SHUTUP PLEASE!!!  

One man you are NOT smarter than...



I'll take blind Eddie over FR in a battle of wits any day.

He only won $50k on Millionaire, though -- I think I could reach that level, too.  Especially if 'gro were my Phone-a-Friend...

FR:  "'gro, OK, here's the question:  What color is curry in its purest form?  A) Red, B) Brown, C) Yellow or D) Purple?"

'gro:  "C'mon, Frank, it's all about that purple drank!"

FR:  "You da man, 'gro, I knew you'd know! -- Meredith, I say D) Purple!"

Meredith:  "Ummm... Here's your CapitalOne Check for $0, Frank."

EDDIE...EDDIE...EDDIE!

[union89]

I know there's been a lot of discussion about the playing of everyone by St. John Fisher. With SJF traveling 10 hours to the game and having to pick up its own tab (unlike an NCAA game, where the NCAA pays the travel expenses for 52 people and 10 coaches/support staff), I can see why SJF might've chosen to take this route. I would have to think the travel roster was somewhere in the 52-man range the NCAA provides, so it's not like they were playing 100 kids.

Oh, I totally understand your point.  I am also not saying that the Fisher staff necessarily did the wrong thing by playing 2nd stringers.  My only point is that there is no way the playing time would have been sliced up this way if it were a 'true' Postseason game.

......My question is, if there is that much to gain, why risk losing the game by not putting your best players out there?

good question...except I do not believe anyone was implying that there was some objective thing to gain from the ECAC game...other than the obvious...to win.  You cant gain anything else...there is no next game.  This game is the Seniors last game and luckily with it comes some hardware.  Its kinda like a bonus game, not a consulation game.  Especially if you lost your last game, especially in heartbreak fashion the way SJF did to AU the previous week.

My question to you is:  you are not serious that you would rather lose NCAA 1st round than win an ECAC game?  I agree that I would rather take my shot at winning the NCAA game even if i knew that the ECAC was a lock win, but how could you say that as a Football Senior (for example) that you rather end your career with a loss instead of a win?  Again, I wish some SJF seniors and IC seniors could chime in...this 'moral dilemma' is fresh and fron and center for them right now.

82, from previous conversations, many others have said that an ECAC game will improve recruiting, set the team up for greater success the following year, etc.  It depends on the situation, but I'm not sure I buy those ideas.

In regard to your final point....Yes, no question about it, I would rather lose an NCAA game than win an ECAC game.  Way back when we wore leather helmets, Union lost consecutive NCAA games to Ithaca....both in OT....both in Schenectady.  I wouldn't change those years or experiences for the world.  Losing sucks, but lots of very successful seasons end in NCAA losses.

[Frank Rossi]

'It's an anology, not a hypothetical.'

'An ECAC game is played, literally, POST SEASON.  It's a postseason game by definition.'

My Dad can beat up your Dad.

Jesus Christ!!!!  Someone spare me!!!!  HOW ARE YOU SOOO DAMN SMART!!!  JUST SHUTUP PLEASE!!!  

One man you are NOT smarter than...



I'll take blind Eddie over FR in a battle of wits any day.

Oh, and by the way...

You never answered my question from the first post you're quoting

[Frank Rossi]

Losing sucks, but lots of very successful seasons end in NCAA losses.

And some end in ECAC victories, too.

[SJFF82]

Hobart has quietly been the most consistent program in the East for, what, 5-6 years now?  They never seem to shine this time of year, but can they muster something up to test MUC?  Do they have a bruising running game to control the clock?  Is there Defense fast....need to get to the edge in a hurry against Kmic...he loves to bounce it outside and can break some tackles like I have never seen.  Is Hobart a good tackling team? 

IF, the LB's can scrape and get to outside, without overpursuing, and without getting sealed off or 'washed' out they can force Kmic back to the traffic inside for help.  Micheli is an animal too! 

How is the kicking game for 'Bart?  I hope you guys can go out to Alliance and make a good showing. Tackle Kmic, before he scores, score more pts than them....its Science!

Good luck 'Bart

[Btown999]

Each of the other No. 7 seed has won playoff games with quarterbacks other than their current ones.

I guess you didn't read the post I was responding to, then. Mel said Curry is good and will be good. I don't think there are facts in evidence to suggest the latter, only the former. And that's why I note that Curry's only playoff wins are with the current quarterback, who is a senior.

You make it out to be an unsolicited shot at Curry, when in fact, I was called out by name and a claim was made that has dubious support. I called that assertion into question.

Are you following now?

Pat,

Yeah I am with you now.  I hope you will understand that my request for a re-evaluation of the NEFC comes from frustration (not with you).  As I said in my earlier post you're the big dog so you get the heat.  For that you have my appreciation and if I offened you my apologies. 

We're hopefully cool now?  Peace.

Pat's a good dude ...took me a while to understand this...but he is.....  You are by FAR the most knowledgable NEFC guy here.....Keep posting and don't get discouraged....we need more guys like you.

PS - Again we will call you a clown and an assmonkey, but you can call us the same

U89,

Thanks for the kind words.  I'll be around, and most times not sound like an assmonkey or clown.  But you know everyone slips up.

[lewdogg11]

'It's an anology, not a hypothetical.'

'An ECAC game is played, literally, POST SEASON.  It's a postseason game by definition.'

My Dad can beat up your Dad.

Jesus Christ!!!!  Someone spare me!!!!  HOW ARE YOU SOOO DAMN SMART!!!  JUST SHUTUP PLEASE!!!  

One man you are NOT smarter than...



I'll take blind Eddie over FR in a battle of wits any day.

Oh, and by the way...

You never answered my question from the first post you're quoting

No need to waste my time.  I won't win the argument anyway against Captain INTELLECTUAL MAN!!


Captain Intellectual Man FR, studying for his next comeback.  So far, he has 'I know you are, but what am I?'

[Jonny Utah]

'It's an anology, not a hypothetical.'

'An ECAC game is played, literally, POST SEASON.  It's a postseason game by definition.'

My Dad can beat up your Dad.

Jesus Christ!!!!  Someone spare me!!!!  HOW ARE YOU SOOO DAMN SMART!!!  JUST SHUTUP PLEASE!!!  

One man you are NOT smarter than...



I'll take blind Eddie over FR in a battle of wits any day.

Lew you need some type of award for funniest, craziest, and maybe mean pics ever. I just snarfed my decalf tea seeing that post. I remember watching that dude and my wife and I were both like "I don't care how smart he is we kind of feel bad for him." Hopefully he made some good loot on that show for his smarts, can't remember specifics.

whoa whoa hold on a second here.........did you say "decaf tea"?

[cstate19]

Begging everyone to get back to actual football talk.....just got on for the first time in two days and wanted to catch up on the last 5 pages....i now want that part of my life back....

[union89]

Begging everyone to get back to actual football talk.....just got on for the first time in two days and wanted to catch up on the last 5 pages....i now want that part of my life back....

There is a Cortland State joke in there somewhere, but Utah is the expert, so I'll let him handle this one.

[XDragon59]

Begging everyone to get back to actual football talk.....just got on for the first time in two days and wanted to catch up on the last 5 pages....i now want that part of my life back....

OK, how about predictions for the Cortland game?  I will pick the Dragon's to win 44-21.  I think Curry will show some flashes but struggle to stop the Cortland offense and I have a strong feeling that there will be some game changing special forces play out of the Dragons.

[cstate19]

Begging everyone to get back to actual football talk.....just got on for the first time in two days and wanted to catch up on the last 5 pages....i now want that part of my life back....

There is a Cortland State joke in there somewhere, but Utah is the expert, so I'll let him handle this one.

He's deciding on what type of Curry book I should write!  What were the three choices? Coloring? Pop-UP? and? 

I think the coloring will involve purple characters like Barney and the Ithaca teletubby. 

The pop-up will most likely revolve around Coach Welch's two punts from the 30. 

[XDragon59]

Begging everyone to get back to actual football talk.....just got on for the first time in two days and wanted to catch up on the last 5 pages....i now want that part of my life back....

There is a Cortland State joke in there somewhere, but Utah is the expert, so I'll let him handle this one.

Why don't you sit the next couple plays out champ?  Stop talking for awhile ok?

[dlippiel]

'It's an anology, not a hypothetical.'

'An ECAC game is played, literally, POST SEASON.  It's a postseason game by definition.'

My Dad can beat up your Dad.

Jesus Christ!!!!  Someone spare me!!!!  HOW ARE YOU SOOO DAMN SMART!!!  JUST SHUTUP PLEASE!!!  

One man you are NOT smarter than...



I'll take blind Eddie over FR in a battle of wits any day.

Lew you need some type of award for funniest, craziest, and maybe mean pics ever. I just snarfed my decalf tea seeing that post. I remember watching that dude and my wife and I were both like "I don't care how smart he is we kind of feel bad for him." Hopefully he made some good loot on that show for his smarts, can't remember specifics.

whoa whoa hold on a second here.........did you say "decaf tea"?

Didn't think you'd pick that one up! Nice Utah!