East Region Playoff Discussion

fan of d3 · November 13, 2006, 10:19:26 AM

Jose, did you not have your coffee this morning? Seem a little grouchy. I'm not worried about his playoff record. What I am concerned with is curry, and then the winner of SJF and union...All 3 teams are beatable with the SC triple option.

JQV · November 13, 2006, 10:20:49 AM

Quote from: fan of d3 on November 13, 2006, 10:19:26 AM
I'm not worried about his playoff record.

I think Colts fans were saying the same thing about Tony Dungy last year...

fan of d3 · November 13, 2006, 10:24:38 AM

Kind of a weak case.

superman57 · November 13, 2006, 10:28:56 AM

Not at all a weak case very similar, if a team fgures out how to stop the option it can get very ugly for springfield, Ithaca being the case this year

JQV · November 13, 2006, 10:30:31 AM

I definitely agree. If a coach is a gimmick coach, like DeLong, than his past playoff record is a good indicator of how his gimmick will work this year.

fan of d3 · November 13, 2006, 10:32:36 AM

His gimmick worked to the tune of a 9-1 record.

JQV · November 13, 2006, 10:35:11 AM

Quote from: fan of d3 on November 13, 2006, 10:32:36 AM
His gimmick worked to the tune of a 9-1 record.

It has lead to a lot of regular season success. In fact, so much regular season success that they have gotten to lose at home in the playoffs quite a bit.

fan of d3 · November 13, 2006, 10:39:11 AM

Talking about their past playoff success/failure is about as relevant as talking about ithacas success about 2 decades ago in the playoffs.. It's irrelevant jose.

superman57 · November 13, 2006, 10:40:01 AM

Jose i wish I could give you more karma, btw did you get out to see the UF-USC game saturday, Moss is a freak with that leap

JQV · November 13, 2006, 10:43:01 AM

Quote from: fan of d3 on November 13, 2006, 10:39:11 AM
Talking about their past playoff success/failure is about as relevant as talking about ithacas success about 2 decades ago in the playoffs.. It's irrelevant jose.

Instead of repeating yourself, why don't you, say, make a counterargument. I'd be happy to repeat my argument why it is relevant in shorter sentences with smaller words if that would help.

SC has gimmick.

Gimmick worked in past regular seasons.

Gimmick did not work in past post seasons.

This season is not different. (This would be a good place to start your counterargument. ie Why is this season different fan of repetition?)

Quote from: Superman57 on November 13, 2006, 10:40:01 AM
Jose i wish I could give you more karma, btw did you get out to see the UF-USC game saturday, Moss is a freak with that leap

It was incredible. We were near the top of the stadium (by near I mean there was only one row behind us) and the whole place was shaking. The block was a ridiculously athletic play. Gotta give the old ballcoach props though, he gave Gator Nation the thumbs up on the way out.

P.S. They are now calling Moss the "Ultimate Cock Block" in Gainesville. Comedy that would really be appreciated in the LLPP I imagine.

maxpower · November 13, 2006, 10:44:53 AM

Quote from: fan of d3 on November 13, 2006, 10:39:11 AM
Talking about their past playoff success/failure is about as relevant as talking about ithacas success about 2 decades ago in the playoffs.. It's irrelevant jose.

I hear what you're saying but it's not irrelevant when the team is so similar. Look at 2003 for example... undefeated season, but couldn't handle RPI at home. (Who RPI went on to beat is irrelevant.) And as we have discussed, Sharpe is very good but not miles better than SC's last two guys, and certainly not that much better than Cahill, if at all. Ithaca was a completely different team when it was winning titles, with a different coach. What has changed for SC?

JQV · November 13, 2006, 10:47:37 AM

Quote from: maxpower on November 13, 2006, 10:44:53 AM
What has changed for SC?

Fan of flimsy arguments jumped on their bandwagon.

superman57 · November 13, 2006, 10:48:51 AM

they got real lucky too, I'm rooting for either them or Rutgers to omake the NC game, I think it would be a rip if rutgers beats Louisville and WV and still does not make the championship game

JQV · November 13, 2006, 10:52:37 AM

You're right about the Gators being lucky Superman. They are heading in the wrong direction at the wrong time of year.

The Truth 00 · November 13, 2006, 11:00:48 AM

whoa whoa whoa, gimmick offense? gimmick coach? get your facts straight. sc isn't going to trick you with anything. you know what is coming and as a coaching staff, its your job to coach up the option as much as possible, which is hard as hell by the way. its hard to simulate the speed of that offense with any scout team, or the discipline they have. ithaca didn't "stop" the offense that day. the sloppy field, weather conditions, and uncut grass did. regardless, if they play on a sloppy surface in the postseason, their chances aren't as good as playing on any artificial surface. and if i recall, sc made it to the final 8 in 2000 with cahill at the helm. in 2002, they played a "home" game at brockport. they were the 4 seed and brockport was the 5 seed but since the field hockey national championship was at sc, administrators didn't want to do their job and shift the games around to accommodate the football program. so what am i getting at? they played on the worst field imaginable at special olympic stadium...a field that didn't host the following weeks game against christopher newport. in 2003, as i mentioned last night, they ran into an rpi team clicking on all cylinders. seriously, the shotgun, 5 wide, no huddle offense ate them up. but that game wasn't a fluke either, as rpi advanced to the final 4.

i don't think fan of d3 thinks everyone is against sc. i would hope that fellow e8ers are rooting for springfield.