East Region Playoff Discussion

[theoriginalupstate]

What happens if Springfield loses to SJF this weekend do they drop to #8 any comments??

Almost zero chance of a 2 loss team in the East grabbing a pool C...

I think SJF should get a strong look at Pool C if they win out.  They would be 6-3 having lost to MUC...makes em 7-2, having lost to Salisbury on the road when they led 6-3 at half, makes em 7.5-1.5 and having only lost to Alfred by 3 on a FG with 7 secs to go against AU's backup QB and RB, makes 'em 8.2-.8....I mean should they really be penalized for their record?

Over an 8-2 Cortland?

Sarcasm...

Look it up...

[XDragon59]

What happens if Springfield loses to SJF this weekend do they drop to #8 any comments??

Almost zero chance of a 2 loss team in the East grabbing a pool C...

I think SJF should get a strong look at Pool C if they win out.  They would be 6-3 having lost to MUC...makes em 7-2, having lost to Salisbury on the road when they led 6-3 at half, makes em 7.5-1.5 and having only lost to Alfred by 3 on a FG with 7 secs to go against AU's backup QB and RB, makes 'em 8.2-.8....I mean should they really be penalized for their record?

Over an 8-2 Cortland?

Sarcasm...

Look it up...

Yeah we didn't have that in our textbooks, but we probably need our own link for the Cortaca smack to begin, glad you started it!

[dewcrew88]

What happens if Springfield loses to SJF this weekend do they drop to #8 any comments??

Almost zero chance of a 2 loss team in the East grabbing a pool C...

I think SJF should get a strong look at Pool C if they win out.  They would be 6-3 having lost to MUC...makes em 7-2, having lost to Salisbury on the road when they led 6-3 at half, makes em 7.5-1.5 and having only lost to Alfred by 3 on a FG with 7 secs to go against AU's backup QB and RB, makes 'em 8.2-.8....I mean should they really be penalized for their record?

yes they should. although MUC and Salisbury don't count as in-region games, so you have through the criteria a bit before you get to that. I believe that's true.

[Yanks 99]

What happens if Springfield loses to SJF this weekend do they drop to #8 any comments??

Almost zero chance of a 2 loss team in the East grabbing a pool C...

I think SJF should get a strong look at Pool C if they win out.  They would be 6-3 having lost to MUC...makes em 7-2, having lost to Salisbury on the road when they led 6-3 at half, makes em 7.5-1.5 and having only lost to Alfred by 3 on a FG with 7 secs to go against AU's backup QB and RB, makes 'em 8.2-.8....I mean should they really be penalized for their record?

Over an 8-2 Cortland?

Sarcasm...

Look it up...

Yeah we didn't have that in our textbooks, but we probably need our own link for the Cortaca smack to begin, glad you started it!

You guys had coloring books for sarcasm???

[tecmobowler]

The East teams are terrible.  They should ship everyone in from the North and South this year.  Brutal.

[tecmobowler]

... and I assume with Albright and Alfred's embarassing stomping today, any argument against welcoming back Mount Union to the East comes to an end. 

[pumkinattack]

That's a given.  Hopefully someone steps up and at least presents a challenge to them.  (DelVal?)

[SJFF82]

What happens if Springfield loses to SJF this weekend do they drop to #8 any comments??

Almost zero chance of a 2 loss team in the East grabbing a pool C...

I think SJF should get a strong look at Pool C if they win out.  They would be 6-3 having lost to MUC...makes em 7-2, having lost to Salisbury on the road when they led 6-3 at half, makes em 7.5-1.5 and having only lost to Alfred by 3 on a FG with 7 secs to go against AU's backup QB and RB, makes 'em 8.2-.8....I mean should they really be penalized for their record?

Over an 8-2 Cortland?

uhm...was just screwin around...but since you mention it....I guess we will see how Cort measures up against IC, who Fisher crushed.  Fisher also crushed Springfield on the road.  I mean...SJF kinda has two pretty impressive road wins in the East...dont know the answer, but how many other East teams have two road monkeystomps against solid teams....I know, IC sucks right???  Hmmmm...they did monkeystomp #1.   Man, if SJF could only play special teams as good as a 4th grade pop warner team, they would be at least 6-2 right now and undefeated in the E8....ok, smite me now....

[dewcrew88]

Maybe my column this week will be how bad the east has freakin gacked it this year. Jesus Christ.

[pg04]

Maybe my column this week will be how bad the east has freakin gacked it this year. Jesus Christ.

I would advise against it!  I get criticized so much for saying it on here, I can't imagine what will happen if you write it in an article! 

[XDragon59]

What happens if Springfield loses to SJF this weekend do they drop to #8 any comments??

Almost zero chance of a 2 loss team in the East grabbing a pool C...

I think SJF should get a strong look at Pool C if they win out.  They would be 6-3 having lost to MUC...makes em 7-2, having lost to Salisbury on the road when they led 6-3 at half, makes em 7.5-1.5 and having only lost to Alfred by 3 on a FG with 7 secs to go against AU's backup QB and RB, makes 'em 8.2-.8....I mean should they really be penalized for their record?

Over an 8-2 Cortland?

uhm...was just screwin around...but since you mention it....I guess we will see how Cort measures up against IC, who Fisher crushed.  Fisher also crushed Springfield on the road.  I mean...SJF kinda has two pretty impressive road wins in the East...dont know the answer, but how many other East teams have two road monkeystomps against solid teams....I know, IC sucks right???  Hmmmm...they did monkeystomp #1.   Man, if SJF could only play special teams as good as a 4th grade pop warner team, they would be at least 6-2 right now and undefeated in the E8....ok, smite me now....

Yeah Fisher would be next in line...

[gordonmann]

Maybe my column this week will be how bad the east has freakin gacked it this year.

Relative to what?  Here's how the best team in the East has finished the last few years.

2008: Mount Union beats Cortland  41-14 in quarterfinals.  Mount wins the title.
2007: Mount Union beats St. John Fisher 52-10 in the quarterfinals.  Mount loses to UW-Whitewater in the Stagg.
2006: Mount Union beats St. John Fisher 26-14 in the semifinals. Mount wins the title.
2005: Mount Union beats Rowan 19-7 in the semifinals.  Mount wins the title.
2004: Linfield beats Rowan 52-0 in the semifinals.  Linfield wins the title.
2003: St. John's beats RPI 38-10 in the semifinals.  St. John's wins the title.

In recent years the best team in the east has fallen to the eventual national champion.  Some years it happens in the semis and some years in the quarters.  While the latter is obviously one round earlier, there are only 8 teams left at that point and, if you are stuck playing Mount Union, your chances aren't very good whatever week it is.

At this point I don't see how anyone could project this year to be much different.  The region doesn't have one dominant team, but frankly those dominant teams of years past have met the same fate that likely awaits this year's best team.

If you want to focus on the lack of highly ranked East teams, that's fine, too.  But the East isn't alone in seeing teams that were highly rated at one point fall off the radar.  If you look at the Preseason Top 25, you'll find teams from all over the country who won't meet preseason hopes - Hardin Simmons and Christopher Newport in the South; Wheaton and Otterbein in the North; UW-Stevens Point and Wartburg in the West.

There's plenty to focus on this week in the East region besides lamenting whether the East region team meets potential demise in in the first or second week of December against Mount Union.  As Keith McMillan pointed out in his first column, if you just focus on whether a team can win the Stagg Bowl, you're missing a lot of really great stories that define the season.

[Pat Coleman]

Maybe my column this week will be how bad the east has freakin gacked it this year. Jesus Christ.

I suspect this is a throwaway line but if you are really hard up for story ideas, look at Springfield or Delaware Valley.

[gordonmann]

Or how close Kean is to winning a conference title.  Or how Montclair has turned around its season after the opening loss.

[rams1102]

Or how close Kean is to winning a conference title.  Or how Montclair has turned around its season after the opening loss.

I'm one of the bigger Montclair fans out there, but they still have me scratching my head. The D is good, but the O I can't figure out. We lost our running game the past (4) weeks and Fisher at QB, well you know my feelings. Beating Rowan was huge. Maybe they sort of gave up after (2) conference loses, but I'll take it anyway. Yet we are 8-1 with a chance to give Kean a little pay back from last year and maybe go dancing. Thats why we play the games.