East Region Playoff Discussion

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dlippiel

Quote from: No Longer Negative LD11 on November 17, 2010, 08:43:22 AM
Quote from: dlip on November 17, 2010, 08:28:55 AM
QuoteCortland is very overrated. I see them beating Endicott, but barely in a hard fought game.

So true

I don't drink this Kool-Aid at this point.  What can we judge this on?  They lost a nailbiter to Rowan and took care of everyone else on their schedule.  They had a big comeback against a huge rival(not to mention a fairly good team) to finish the season.  I think this year Cortland could surprise a few people.

dlip does not think Cortland is "bad" but he thinks that, at least from what he saw last week, the Red Dragons are just not that good and may be ripe for getting upset. If Picher comes out this week the way he did the last Cortland may be in trouble.

*Yet it is also important to say that dlip has only seen Cortland play once this year and he feels that his opinion of the Red Dragons is not well based and in stone. He hopes the Red Dragons lay down a Monkey Stomp this weekend and is behind them 100%. he just doesnot feel it will happen.

dlippiel

QuoteDelaware Valley - 28
Salisbury - 17

dlip is telling everyone to watch out for this game. IMHO too many are overlooking the Gulls who will come into this game fired up and ready to go.

lewdogg11

Quote from: dlip on November 17, 2010, 09:47:18 AM
QuoteDelaware Valley - 28
Salisbury - 17

dlip is telling everyone to watch out for this game. IMHO too many are overlooking the Gulls who will come into this game fired up and ready to go.

Just 1 short week ago, we thought Del Valley could contend against Mount Union.  Don't let a meaningless trap game against a major rival think they aren't as good as previously advertised.

AUPepBand

Quote from: No Longer Negative LD11 on November 17, 2010, 09:51:31 AM
Quote from: dlip on November 17, 2010, 09:47:18 AM
QuoteDelaware Valley - 28
Salisbury - 17

dlip is telling everyone to watch out for this game. IMHO too many are overlooking the Gulls who will come into this game fired up and ready to go.

Just 1 short week ago, we thought Del Valley could contend against Mount Union.  Don't let a meaningless trap game against a major rival think they aren't as good as previously advertised.

Pep recalls reading somewhere (Gordon Mann) that the Aggies were missing some starters late in that game. Their playoff prowess could be seriously challenged by injuries. When Manzer went down in the first quarter last year against Albright, AU lost not only its leading receiver and playmaker, but also one of its better defenders in the secondary...a double blow. Most teams can survive and overcome regular season injuries--in time, but in the playoffs there's no tomorrow.

Pep wishes DelVal the best but wonders if the team that stayed with Wesley has been weakened by injuries?
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pg04

I also tend to believe Del val Goes down....

Here are my picks:

St. Lawrence 0
Mt. Union 63

Endicott 3
Cortland 17

SUNY-Maritime 10
Alfred 38

Salisbury 34
Del Val 31

Just for the heck of it...

Montclair 9
HS   23

maxpower

Quote from: No Longer Negative LD11 on November 17, 2010, 09:51:31 AM
Quote from: dlip on November 17, 2010, 09:47:18 AM
QuoteDelaware Valley - 28
Salisbury - 17

dlip is telling everyone to watch out for this game. IMHO too many are overlooking the Gulls who will come into this game fired up and ready to go.

Just 1 short week ago, we thought Del Valley could contend against Mount Union.  Don't let a meaningless trap game against a major rival think they aren't as good as previously advertised.


Who here has actually seen Del Val play? Serious question?

wesleydad

i have seen them twice, and not against wesley.  i have seen salisbury once, against wesley.  based on what i saw i think delval wins the game, unless as dlip stated they have lost some d players to injury.  if so, they will have trouble with the triple option that salisbury runs.  it should be a good game.

Knightstalker

Quote from: AUSaxons on November 16, 2010, 09:30:31 PM
Cortland St. - 20
Endicott - 14
-I believe after seeing an Ithaca team that got dominated by Alfred play cortland to the final whistle, Cortland is very overrated. I see them beating Endicott, but barely in a hard fought game.


But Alfred lost to RPI and Rocha cha.  What should have been fairly easy OOC games this season.  Cortland had to comeback in rivalry game, big difference and they are riding a Cortaca win into the playoffs.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

dlippiel

QuoteWhat should have been fairly easy OOC games this season

dlip does not know if he agrees with this KS. U of R was clearly a different team towards the end of the year. A team that if they began the 2010 campaign the way they ended it would be going to the NCAAs with an LL title on their shoulders. RPI also showed some prowess (word dedicated to Walt "Clyde" Frazier) late in the year.

Raider 68

From TGP,

"MU is "only" averaging 40.6 ppg and has allowed an average of 13.1 ppg (but with 4 shutouts).  I don't think SLU will be shut out, especially since the Larries do have a pretty good kicker."

TGP

MTU has only allowed 7.9 pts per game including 4 shutouts! I see your point, but total stats are more indicative of the defense year, also #2 in the Nation in scoring defense! :)

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dlippiel

Quote from: Raider 68 on November 17, 2010, 11:48:01 AM
From TGP,

"MU is "only" averaging 40.6 ppg and has allowed an average of 13.1 ppg (but with 4 shutouts).  I don't think SLU will be shut out, especially since the Larries do have a pretty good kicker."

TGP

MTU has only allowed 7.9 pts per game including 4 shutouts! I see your point, but total stats are more indicative of the defense year, also #2 in the Nation in scoring defense! :)



Regardless it is most likely going to be an ugly affair. dlip feels MTU will call off the dogs after half and let SLU at least take a breath.

Go Saints

labart96

Quote from: Raider 68 on November 17, 2010, 11:48:01 AM
From TGP,

"MU is "only" averaging 40.6 ppg and has allowed an average of 13.1 ppg (but with 4 shutouts).  I don't think SLU will be shut out, especially since the Larries do have a pretty good kicker."

TGP

MTU has only allowed 7.9 pts per game including 4 shutouts! I see your point, but total stats are more indicative of the defense year, also #2 in the Nation in scoring defense! :)



Doh - well math never was my best subject.  79/10 does = 7.9.  Looks like I left out the 0's last time....

HScoach

Quote from: pg04 on November 17, 2010, 10:05:05 AM

Just for the heck of it...

Montclair 9
HS   23


Hmmm, I keep seeing predictions that Montclair State is going down.   When I looked at their season compared to Hampden-Sydney's I was pretty confident MSU was the favorite.  Even on the road.  Plus for the last couple weeks I've read a ton of stuff about how tough the NJAC is (which I agree) and how all three of the 9-1 teams should get in the playoffs.    Plus how Cortland & Montclair were just inches away from being the East legit #1 seed.  Now I see you guys saying MSU is losing to HSC.    If nothing else, I thought 9-1 in the NJAC was better than 9-1 in the ODAC.

Hopefully I'm not on glue, but I was pretty comfortable with this spread:
#5 Montclair State at #4 Hampden-Sydney (+6.5)

I'm really curious to hear the East's opinion on why? 

THANKS in advance for the insight.
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Quote from: HScoach on November 17, 2010, 12:23:02 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 17, 2010, 10:05:05 AM

Just for the heck of it...

Montclair 9
HS   23


Hmmm, I keep seeing predictions that Montclair State is going down.   When I looked at their season compared to Hampden-Sydney's I was pretty confident MSU was the favorite.  Even on the road.  Plus for the last couple weeks I've read a ton of stuff about how tough the NJAC is (which I agree) and how all three of the 9-1 teams should get in the playoffs.    Plus how Cortland & Montclair were just inches away from being the East legit #1 seed.  Now I see you guys saying MSU is losing to HSC.    If nothing else, I thought 9-1 in the NJAC was better than 9-1 in the ODAC.

Hopefully I'm not on glue, but I was pretty comfortable with this spread:
#5 Montclair State at #4 Hampden-Sydney (+6.5)

I'm really curious to hear the East's opinion on why? 

THANKS in advance for the insight.


I have Montclair as the favorite... +6.5 sounds good to me. 

gordonmann

QuoteWho here has actually seen Del Val play? Serious question?

I've seen them play every game since 2003 and agree with WesleyDad.  The Aggies were missing two starters off their defensive front in a 3-4 at the end of the Widener game.  If those guys aren't back, I don't think Del Val can beat Salisbury.  If those guys are back, I still think it's a toss up.  Salisbury is a tough team to prepare for.